It took Riot less than a couple hours to Ban a player at a Streamers Direction.

Yordle Gunner·Jun 16, 2019·124 votes·20,383 views

For the streamers own behavior on stream and documented that would get any of us banned. His punishment is N/A I hate seeing so many of these posts, I hate making them. It detracts from what we all should be doing but this is the ONLY way of holding this player accountable for his actions. I don't know what is taking Riot so long to respond. They are probably hoping this blows over. Do not let this blow over like some dead Meme. This is a real issue that we can fix.

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WhatTheJakeJun 17, 201920 votes

Here's the thing. The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban?

funkdubious2Jun 17, 20193 votes

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Here's the thing. The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban?

I wouldnt condone a ban. If what you say is true, Riot made a terrible error in judgement here. And should never have succumbed to Nightblue's requests. If NB suspected the guy was cheating then yes. But off-meta picks that then destroy him should never be banned, thats absurd if thats the case.

B312Jun 17, 20194 votes

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Here's the thing. The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban?

EXCUSE ME? He forced his ad to play a 1v2 lane, emphasis on the word forced - if anyone in lobby didn't know this player none of them signed up for what he did to them - he forces his ad to 1v2 lane and then proceeds to steal xp mid, doing something that funnily enough, his midlaner also didn't agree to. Thanks chief but I'm going with Doublelift on this one, permaban the griefer.

WhatTheJakeJun 17, 20193 votes

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EXCUSE ME? He forced his ad to play a 1v2 lane, emphasis on the word forced - if anyone in lobby didn't know this player none of them signed up for what he did to them - he forces his ad to 1v2 lane and then proceeds to steal xp mid, doing something that funnily enough, his midlaner also didn't agree to. Thanks chief but I'm going with Doublelift on this one, permaban the griefer.

If you actually watched the other player's vod you would know that he's played this strategy in many more games as well as how he explains it has worked. Also, just because you say it's griefing does not mean it actually is. He was actually being more proactive than Nightblue the entire game. So idk what Doublelift has to do with anything but you obviously haven't done your research fella.

TheSymbolÔfPeaceJun 17, 20193 votes

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Here's the thing. The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually have no clue what griefing is, but I'll try to spell it out in simple words. If you are forcing other players to follow your strat (which actually sucked big penis btw) and it is ruining their gameplay, that is griefing. That I should why he got banned, he was deliberately donor communicating with his teammates and forcing them to play a new playstyle that 3 of the teammates didn't not want to play.

CameramonJun 17, 20193 votes

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Here's the thing. The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban?

God people really still try to defend him. So lets start. Yes, he was trying to intentionally losing the game. No, he has not stayed in masters using the strategy (spoiler: he doesnt actually use the "strategy" very often. Only when he is in a game with other streams. I wonder why). Instead, he stays in masters playing regular teemo support (for those who try to defending his trolling by calling it "off-meta", learn the difference. Teemo support is off-meta. Teemo leeching xp mid to both ruin the bot and the mid lane is trolling), Leona, and Amumu. When playing regular teemo support, his win rate is decent ,which is why its actually at 48%. When trolling mid as Teemo, his win rate is below 38%.

They did their research. People here try to ignore and forget about that fact, but Riot clearly stated that a, the player was already on their radar, and b, after looking into it, they found this strange pattern where he only went mid as teemo when other streamers are in the game, and where he just happened to a lose a ton more doing it. Or, to put it more bluntly, he trolls for views.

DukuesJun 17, 20193 votes

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Here's the thing. The player was not doing anything necessarily wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to lose the game. He got to masters and has been using this strategy and staying in masters. So obviously he hasn't been losing intentionally, or too often because of it. Nightblue is just looking for an excuse as to why he lost the game. Also I would say he should have been banned for his constant flaming, not just in this case but he flames a lot. Rabia (Nightblue) is 100% in the wrong here. He DID abuse his power, and unfortunately someone who wasn't even trolling went down because of it. Also, it's unusual that someone would be suspended for only ONE game with a clean record beforehand. I believe that also has to do with the fact that Nightblue is the one who submitted the ticket. However, Nightblue is not the main one at fault, but Riot is, as they not only submitted to him, but also didn't do their research or possibly even care to think that he could be wrong. In short, NB3 is toxic, sucked Rito's dick bc he lost a game and acted like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum and got a player banned just because he used a non-meta strategy. If this was you, just because you played differently, would you want a ban?

As much as I love piling on NB3 as I really dislike him, I have to say after a lot of thinking he is in the right. Well... not all the flame and name calling. But this teemo is fucking trolling and I can guarntee even in shit ass gold I am going to see "roaming" teemo supports that going to tilt so many people. The reality is you can't pick some troll shit in solo queue especially something like a roaming support and then just expect your teammates to think it cool like leaving your adc to 2v1 bot while stealing xp from your mid. If arranged team 5v5 where you know the players.... yea no shit it's fine. But just taking a champ who historically is not great in a role... then not even playing that role is complete and utter troll and should be punished.

I get why NB3 frustrated hell I am super frustrated with this game as vet. Solo queue is a lot harder to carry in that it used to be. Then he runs into this dude who is doing a strat that is known to be bullshit and worse on average that the regular strat and having to deal with it in season 9? Like lmfao.... If in most your games your titling everyone on your team why would that not be reportable?

This is high elo.... these players know how to punish this strat. Its known to be worse than meta play. Why wouldn't it be punishable? "but he wins games sometimes". lmfao.... soo? Doesn't mean it doesn't tilt the shit out of his team or is the best way to play the game. I would be so pissed if I had this guy as my "support". Leaving your adc 2v1 bot while they just get continue dove by enemy jungler lmfao.... It would tilt me off the face of the earth. Just to get mid.... a couple creep kill advantage while also stealing their xp and making them many levels behind enemy mid. ..... yup.... great strategy.

The EcdysiastJun 17, 201914 votes

Um... the other player was streaming too.... It's not like this was a Norms match on a smurf account where he stomped on some average Joe. This was a fellow Master rank player clearly griefing.

And the fact you can now submit a report ticket via Riot Support helps immensely with the speed of punishments. Nevermind the fact it was a repeat offense over several dozen games.

You wanna report him for flaming, go right ahead. But Nightblue is not in the wrong for reporting someone else who was breaking the rules.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 201924 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T00:43:39.342+0000)

Um... the other player was streaming too.... It's not like this was a Norms match on a smurf account where he stomped on some average Joe. This was a fellow Master rank player clearly griefing.

Yeah so when is the griefing player gonna get a ban? NB3 AFK's in game and flames.

And the fact you can now submit a report ticket via Riot Support helps immensely with the speed of punishments. Nevermind the fact it was a repeat offense over several dozen games.

You could already do that, he spoke to a Rioter via Discord

You wanna report him for flaming, go right ahead. But Nightblue is not in the wrong for reporting someone else who was breaking the rules.

NB3 is in the wrong for abusing relations with Riot

deandrewisJun 17, 20192 votes

Yeah so when is the griefing player gonna get a ban? NB3 AFK's in game and flames. First of all, afk does not immediately lead to ban and flame on stream is absolutely alright- it has never been said anywhere that I know of that you can't flame on stream You could already do that, he spoke to a Rioter via Discord NB3 is in the wrong for abusing relations with Riot You are misusing the word abusing. Abusing is when you use your connections to do something not right, he is just using them to do something good for the community, I don't see the problem. The only way I can understand why you would be angry about it is because you don't get the same treatment as nb3 does. No shit that he gets treated better when he brings them views and exposure, while you are just a random unimportant player. It's not like they are making LoL for other to feel good about themselves, they are doing it for business. And if you have someone who is useful to your business then you will help them out as much as you can as long as it's within certain boundaries. Imo getting a trolling player banned is pretty ok, it's beneficial for the community and beneficial for the influencer so why the fuck not.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 20198 votes

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First of all, afk does not immediately lead to ban and flame on stream is absolutely alright- it has never been said anywhere that I know of that you can't flame on stream You are misusing the word abusing. Abusing is when you use your connections to do something not right, he is just using them to do something good for the community, I don't see the problem. The only way I can understand why you would be angry about it is because you don't get the same treatment as nb3 does. No shit that he gets treated better when he brings them views and exposure, while you are just a random unimportant player. It's not like they are making LoL for other to feel good about themselves, they are doing it for business. And if you have someone who is useful to your business then you will help them out as much as you can as long as it's within certain boundaries. Imo getting a trolling player banned is pretty ok, it's beneficial for the community and beneficial for the influencer so why the fuck not.

You might wanna try that again, you seemed to have put everything in quotes and now it's a big clusterfuck of words

charlesplsnoJun 17, 20193 votes

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First of all, afk does not immediately lead to ban and flame on stream is absolutely alright- it has never been said anywhere that I know of that you can't flame on stream You are misusing the word abusing. Abusing is when you use your connections to do something not right, he is just using them to do something good for the community, I don't see the problem. The only way I can understand why you would be angry about it is because you don't get the same treatment as nb3 does. No shit that he gets treated better when he brings them views and exposure, while you are just a random unimportant player. It's not like they are making LoL for other to feel good about themselves, they are doing it for business. And if you have someone who is useful to your business then you will help them out as much as you can as long as it's within certain boundaries. Imo getting a trolling player banned is pretty ok, it's beneficial for the community and beneficial for the influencer so why the fuck not.

lol dude, he was being a toxic crying little bitch. He could have moved on with his life by submitting a ticket. He didn't HAVE to say anything. He sounded like a privileged 12-year-old who didn't get what he want. He should be banned.

Wicked HunterJun 17, 20194 votes

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Yeah so when is the griefing player gonna get a ban? NB3 AFK's in game and flames.

You could already do that, he spoke to a Rioter via Discord

NB3 is in the wrong for abusing relations with Riot

Why is a streamer allowed to have connections? Is this normal to have a RIOTER friend??? Since when? Both should be punished the rioter and Nightblue. This company is such a joke holy fk.

If you re a John Doe they will ban u instant but if u re someone they ll protect you. It shows how low RIOT went how corrupted is. This company is a joke at this point. As the title says it took a couple of hours to ban someone and people are yelling on Boards and yet nothing happened. This is the real face of RIOT reflected by these so called streamers like Nightblue. This is the real face of RIOT. I mean things went so far that he started to threaten people that he will ban them and also put in his stream s title this banning thing. Imagine how far things went if a streamer is allowed to ban anyone at any point all based on his opinion which is completely wrong and he should be the one banned. Perma ban Nightblue now.

funkdubious2Jun 17, 20193 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wicked Hunter,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T07:05:24.221+0000)

Why is a streamer allowed to have connections? Is this normal to have a RIOTER friend??? Since when? Both should be punished the rioter and Nightblue. This company is such a joke holy fk.

If you re a John Doe they will ban u instant even though you did nothing wrong but if u re someone they ll protect you. It shows how low RIOT went how corrupted is. This company is a joke at this point. As the title says it took a couple of hours to ban someone and people are yelling on Boards and yet nothing happened. This is the real face of RIOT reflected by these so called streamers like Nightblue. This is the real face of RIOT. I men things went so far that he started to threaten people that he will ban them and also put in his stream s title this banning thing. Imagine how far things went if a streamer is allowed to ban anyone at any point all based on his opinion which is completely wrong and he should be the one banned. Perma ban Nightblue now.

I've been victim to a chat ban once. 2 people on my team griefing on everybody because we were behind and I finally had enough and said "shut the fuck up" and started going off on them. "they are playing fine, and I'm tired of you denigrating their play" afterwards they kept flaming and I'm like "shit, I dont even wanna play anymore with you two. You guys are disgusting fucks that I dont ever wanna play with" and basically sat at base.

They reported me, got me chat banned for like 8 games... apparently the Riot support guy looked at JUST MY CHAT and probably didnt even bother to see it in context of the whole game. I dont even think they got anything done even though THEY were the one flaming the one guy who clearly didnt really know how to play well.

funkdubious2Jun 17, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wicked Hunter,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T07:05:24.221+0000)

Why is a streamer allowed to have connections? Is this normal to have a RIOTER friend??? Since when? Both should be punished the rioter and Nightblue. This company is such a joke holy fk.

A streamer can actually be a Riot employee. However, where the ethics comes in, is having extra force through that personal relationship that gives him more juice to get someone banned/etc... and that I agree with you, that should never be the case. Our legal system is meant to be fair and blind, meant to be applying law equally to all. Having "Riot employee" friends creates favoritism and shouldn't be done... although it can be hard to police that effectively...

If you re a John Doe they will ban u instant even though you did nothing wrong but if u re someone they ll protect you. It shows how low RIOT went how corrupted is. This company is a joke at this point. As the title says it took a couple of hours to ban someone and people are yelling on Boards and yet nothing happened.

No comment.

This is the real face of RIOT reflected by these so called streamers like Nightblue. This is the real face of RIOT. I men things went so far that he started to threaten people that he will ban them and also put in his stream s title this banning thing. Imagine how far things went if a streamer is allowed to ban anyone at any point all based on his opinion which is completely wrong and he should be the one banned. Perma ban Nightblue now.

I think you're over exaggerating this.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wicked Hunter,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-17T07:05:24.221+0000)

Why is a streamer allowed to have connections? Is this normal to have a RIOTER friend??? Since when? Both should be punished the rioter and Nightblue. This company is such a joke holy fk.

It's normal for famous streamers/icons to be friends with Rioters, especially in high elo where the playerbase is very small and people know each other (most of them know each other by stream/first name basis) but this isn't how things are supposed to be done.

If you re a John Doe they will ban u instant but if u re someone they ll protect you. It shows how low RIOT went how corrupted is. This company is a joke at this point. As the title says it took a couple of hours to ban someone and people are yelling on Boards and yet nothing happened. This is the real face of RIOT reflected by these so called streamers like Nightblue. This is the real face of RIOT. I mean things went so far that he started to threaten people that he will ban them and also put in his stream s title this banning thing. Imagine how far things went if a streamer is allowed to ban anyone at any point all based on his opinion which is completely wrong and he should be the one banned. Perma ban Nightblue now.

The Rioter should have banned both of them, I don't know why Riot is going to let the IFS be shown in bad light like this lmfao

The EcdysiastJun 17, 20191 votes

Well he didn't afk. He was clearly at the keyboard. Nevermind the fact Riot can see when the game was played and can see he was submitting the ticket at that time. Which would be a reasonable defense for anyone submitting a ticket mid-game.

Speaking to a Rioter, I was unaware of. Though that still makes no difference. What you're trying to claim as abuse of position is simply a swifter punishment, not a false punishment. What Nubrac did, griefing his allies because he doesn't want to play the role he queued up for, is still against the rules.

And like I mentioned already, he did not abuse relations for a false report. He simply got the punishment on the guy more quickly. There's nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't be mad at someone who got their car stolen and the thief caught sooner than usual because their uncle's a cop.

General Esdeath Jun 17, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2019-06-17T18:18:22.704+0000)

Well he didn't afk. He was clearly at the keyboard. Nevermind the fact Riot can see when the game was played and can see he was submitting the ticket at that time. Which would be a reasonable defense for anyone submitting a ticket mid-game.

So I can afk as long as I browse reddit while I'm in game? Cool! Can an official Rioter give us a statement on this? You know what, I'll make some posts and tweets and find out.

Speaking to a Rioter, I was unaware of. Though that still makes no difference. What you're trying to claim as abuse of position is simply a swifter punishment, not a false punishment. What Nubrac did, griefing his allies because he doesn't want to play the role he queued up for, is still against the rules.

That's an abuse. Riot is supposed to let the IFS, you know, their own system, work things out to avoid bias. If the system didn't find anything wrong with his actions, then why doesn't Riot update their system? Why isn't NB3 banned for afk since a person viewed the game? Why is Riot NOT following their own rules while expecting us to?

And like I mentioned already, he did not abuse relations for a false report. He simply got the punishment on the guy more quickly. There's nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't be mad at someone who got their car stolen and the thief caught sooner than usual because their uncle's a cop.

I don't recall ever saying it's a false report. The report can be as valid as day, but why not use the report function in game? Why threaten him ON STREAM and then do it ON STREAM? When I report people I do it via the IFS, I don't start tweeting or @'ing Rioters in the Discord chat and demand a ban.

xAcidikJun 17, 20197 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T00:43:39.342+0000)

Um... the other player was streaming too.... It's not like this was a Norms match on a smurf account where he stomped on some average Joe. This was a fellow Master rank player clearly griefing.

And the fact you can now submit a report ticket via Riot Support helps immensely with the speed of punishments. Nevermind the fact it was a repeat offense over several dozen games.

You wanna report him for flaming, go right ahead. But Nightblue is not in the wrong for reporting someone else who was breaking the rules.

Exactly how I feel, but rip, mob mentality gets you down votes. Lol this community though.

potchikerJun 17, 20191 votes

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Exactly how I feel, but rip, mob mentality gets you down votes. Lol this community though.

the other player is not in the partner program he didnt report he talked to a rioter via discord

xAcidikJun 17, 20191 votes

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the other player is not in the partner program he didnt report he talked to a rioter via discord

It's wrong to report people now? The fuck?

ChaosReynJun 17, 20192 votes

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Exactly how I feel, but rip, mob mentality gets you down votes. Lol this community though.

He's more in the wrong for all the shit he's been saying.

Not to defend the griefer, but there's a difference in off-meta and griefing. Nub didn't want to communicate, but he also never attempted to adapt to any hardships his strat caused his team. It was griefing not because of his off-meta strategy, but for actively crippling his team and not once trying to give any fucks about it.

And NB3, though he was right for reporting that shit, was toxic as hell, and is still toxic as hell, about anything to do with the situation.

xAcidikJun 17, 20192 votes

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He's more in the wrong for all the shit he's been saying.

Not to defend the griefer, but there's a difference in off-meta and griefing. Nub didn't want to communicate, but he also never attempted to adapt to any hardships his strat caused his team. It was griefing not because of his off-meta strategy, but for actively crippling his team and not once trying to give any fucks about it.

And NB3, though he was right for reporting that shit, was toxic as hell, and is still toxic as hell, about anything to do with the situation.

Nah, the man literally abandoned his role and made up another. That's griefing. It's different if it were something like Flex-queue where it's a strategy you prepare with your team, but in solo queue, without giving the opportunity to your team to adapt their picks etc. to an irrelevant garbage strategy that doesn't work, you're trolling.

That said, I agree that Nightblue was and is toxic, but it's getting magnified far beyond what it is. He was not any more toxic than the at least top 3 League streamers are on a regular basis. This has been accepted by Riot forever, and they get bigger audiences for it.

People are treating this situation differently for a reason I don't entirely understand, but it is JUST a case of GENERAL toxicity and should be treated exactly the same as anyone else.

ChaosReynJun 17, 20191 votes

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Nah, the man literally abandoned his role and made up another. That's griefing. It's different if it were something like Flex-queue where it's a strategy you prepare with your team, but in solo queue, without giving the opportunity to your team to adapt their picks etc. to an irrelevant garbage strategy that doesn't work, you're trolling.

That said, I agree that Nightblue was and is toxic, but it's getting magnified far beyond what it is. He was not any more toxic than the at least top 3 League streamers are on a regular basis. This has been accepted by Riot forever, and they get bigger audiences for it.

People are treating this situation differently for a reason I don't entirely understand, but it is JUST a case of GENERAL toxicity and should be treated exactly the same as anyone else.

That's essentially what I'm trying to say - this shit's out of hand, NB3 is making damn sure that it stays out of hand...but Nubrac is not innocent, and in several games, employed a strategy that cucked two members of his team really hardcore while expecting them to simply "adapt" around his antics. He never once considered adapting his own.

MorbysJun 17, 20194 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8h9EE9eK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-17T00:43:39.342+0000)

Um... the other player was streaming too.... It's not like this was a Norms match on a smurf account where he stomped on some average Joe. This was a fellow Master rank player clearly griefing.

And the fact you can now submit a report ticket via Riot Support helps immensely with the speed of punishments. Nevermind the fact it was a repeat offense over several dozen games.

You wanna report him for flaming, go right ahead. But Nightblue is not in the wrong for reporting someone else who was breaking the rules.

Are you delusional? Playing a strat that clearly worked as viewed per his match history isn't trolling. Playing a strat you don't agree with isn't trolling. Giving up and afking b/c you don't like what you see, is bannable. Trying something new, isn't.

The EcdysiastJun 17, 20193 votes

Did you actually review his match history? The man himself is delusional, claiming something like 65% win rate when it's 37% over the more recent games.

You're a little confused about why it's trolling. It isn't trolling because people don't agree with it. It's trolling because it's a wholly selfish decision that forces his allies to pick and play entirely around his decision to not actually play the role he's queuing up for.

If he wants to do such a thing in Blind pick, he'd have a better defense since roles aren't assigned. But if he decides he values his "individuality" more than his teammates in ranked, then he'll get the punishment that goes along with not being a team player in a team game.

Then there's the champion he chose. There are many, many champions that could fit the role of a damage support similar to a mage or Pyke. As long as they have a little hard CC and abilities to poke with, then it would be reasonable to say you're not griefing. But Teemo is not one of them. And going mid to siphon exp and leave your bot laner alone with no discussion with the team, is not Support.

Whether or not you agree with the fact that's how the rules work is a different matter entirely. You wanna advocate for changing the rules, go right ahead and try. But this is and has always been how Riot interprets the rules they've clearly laid out in the Summoner's Code. At best, what you might be able to get is a change to the SC to include, "don't be a d-bag who's fine with people dodging when you want to grief them."

MorbysJun 17, 20192 votes

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CameramonJun 17, 20191 votes

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And yet EVERYTHING you listed isn't bannable, picking a certain champion isn't bannable, playing a strat your team doesn't like isn't bannable. As long as you are trying to win, it ISN'T BANNABLE. This seems to be a concept you mongoloids don't seem to grasp. How you react to what a player is doing, IE threatening, afking, and then getting your team to make a false report. That is bannable.

First of all, no. "As long as you are trying to win, it ISN'T BANNABLE." is pure bullshit. Especially because then any troll or griefer can just say "I was totally trying to win" and absolve them of any blame. However, furthermore the problem is that he wasnt trying to win. He was trying to lose. Trolling his team for views. He knows the "strategy" doesnt work and makes his team far more likely to lose. He knows its trolling. Obviously, he should be banned for trolling.

HopeStartsWithUJun 17, 20193 votes

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And yet EVERYTHING you listed isn't bannable, picking a certain champion isn't bannable, playing a strat your team doesn't like isn't bannable. As long as you are trying to win, it ISN'T BANNABLE. This seems to be a concept you mongoloids don't seem to grasp. How you react to what a player is doing, IE threatening, afking, and then getting your team to make a false report. That is bannable.

Grieving your mates IS bannable. Leaving your role for another role IS trolling. A support ONLY supporting the mid other than every other lane IS trolling. Practically AFKing on BOT AS A SUPPORT IS TROLLING/GRIEVING. Stealing the XP OF YOUR MID AND PUTTING HIM BEHIND IS TROLLING. Your ADC will most likely get killed by their JGL and BOT while that Teemo desperately "supports" against a Midlaner who usually has the waveclear/range to just hold the lane, WHICH YOUR ADC C A N N O T do.

Stop it. You are making a fool of yourself. You obviously wouldn't want that guy in your team, as YOUR support. You also wouldn't copy his playstyle knowing damn well that you would abandon your ADC alone to die on bot.

And your dumb argument "he tried to win" guess what? I could go Zed ADC and act if I really tried to win and even if I win I am damn sure it won't be because I carried the game. The guy has a 47% winrate on Teemo in OVER 400 games. This isn't "trying to win" this is just trying to have fun in a competitive elo. He is Masters because of the other champs he play so well, not because of his braindead Teemo pick.

Your summoners code argument literally makes zero sense because the summoners code says grieving is toxic which leads to bans. His team didn't like playing with him. Pros, High elo players, Streamers ALL complained about this guy months ago and reported him several time. NB3 was the final nail. Stop defending this idiot already.

HvsaoJun 17, 20191 votes

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Um... the other player was streaming too.... It's not like this was a Norms match on a smurf account where he stomped on some average Joe. This was a fellow Master rank player clearly griefing.

And the fact you can now submit a report ticket via Riot Support helps immensely with the speed of punishments. Nevermind the fact it was a repeat offense over several dozen games.

You wanna report him for flaming, go right ahead. But Nightblue is not in the wrong for reporting someone else who was breaking the rules.

His actions were not going through the proper channels. Its an abuse of authority.** If you could just call up a police and have someone imprisoned without going through the judicial process its called tyranny.** Nightblue3 is, furthermore, a hypocrite who actively engages in toxic behavior himself and has somehow managed to avoid adequete level of punishment for his own behavior.

The EcdysiastJun 17, 20191 votes

He did also go through the proper channels though. You can't just say he didn't. Though now that I can't seem to find it when I try to search for it, it'd be nice of you to post a link to the video of him chatting with the Rioter, please and thank you.

See, you're stretching the analogy to a place it doesn't fit. I used the example of a thief caught in the act because there's no gray area there. Just like there's no gray area here. Nubrac has been reported many times before for his bullshit, and it is definitely against the rules. There's nothing tyrannical about stopping a crime IN PROGRESS.

Naked Snake 0Jun 17, 20191 votes

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Um... the other player was streaming too.... It's not like this was a Norms match on a smurf account where he stomped on some average Joe. This was a fellow Master rank player clearly griefing.

And the fact you can now submit a report ticket via Riot Support helps immensely with the speed of punishments. Nevermind the fact it was a repeat offense over several dozen games.

You wanna report him for flaming, go right ahead. But Nightblue is not in the wrong for reporting someone else who was breaking the rules.

How is getting first blood almost every game and having 57% winrate greifing?he is a great player with some intresting ideas you are a dick rider

CameramonJun 18, 20191 votes

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How is getting first blood almost every game and having 57% winrate greifing?he is a great player with some intresting ideas you are a dick rider

His win rate with Teemo as a whole is 48%, not 57%. His win rate when trolling (or as you would call it, with the "strategy) is below 38%. Pretty decisive, dont you think?

T2K BakaJun 17, 20195 votes

The teemo was at fault mostly, it amazing how many can't realize this. This was a high elo game and teemo put 2 lanes at a disadvantage. Mid lost xp, bot got 2v1 from lvl 1. I understand how nightblue feels because i have played adc where the enemy has a poke bot and my supp leaves lvl 3 and then never comes back. Forcing me to just eat poke and unable to farm or i die. If he went bot after the first blood then, i would say nightblue was wrong, but he didn't. Teemo continued to stay mid and reduce the xp for the midlaner. Nightblue wasn't upset at the teemo pick, he was upset at what teemo was doing and he has every right to be. He couldve handled it better, but teemo was mostly at fault here not nightblue. btw im not a big fan of nightblue, i do like some of his youtube vids to try out for fun in norms, but i dont watch him.

MorbysJun 17, 20195 votes

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The teemo was at fault mostly, it amazing how many can't realize this. This was a high elo game and teemo put 2 lanes at a disadvantage. Mid lost xp, bot got 2v1 from lvl 1. I understand how nightblue feels because i have played adc where the enemy has a poke bot and my supp leaves lvl 3 and then never comes back. Forcing me to just eat poke and unable to farm or i die. If he went bot after the first blood then, i would say nightblue was wrong, but he didn't. Teemo continued to stay mid and reduce the xp for the midlaner. Nightblue wasn't upset at the teemo pick, he was upset at what teemo was doing and he has every right to be. He couldve handled it better, but teemo was mostly at fault here not nightblue. btw im not a big fan of nightblue, i do like some of his youtube vids to try out for fun in norms, but i dont watch him.

Hate to break it to ya, but that still isn't a bannable offense, strategies you don't agree with aren't a bannable offense. How NB3 reacted IS bannable.

T2K BakaJun 17, 20194 votes

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Hate to break it to ya, but that still isn't a bannable offense, strategies you don't agree with aren't a bannable offense. How NB3 reacted IS bannable.

hate to break it to ya, what he did was trolling the team. he didnt discuss the strategy with anyone beforehand, he just did it. Adc was unable to farm, mid has less xp than enemy mid. He put 2 lanes at an disadvantage and griefed them. Nightblue did say some stupid shit, but that was on stream not in chat he cant get banned for it, but afking in base is a different story.

main point is what teemo did was bannable and his punishment is deserved no matter how hard it sounds.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

MorbysJun 17, 20192 votes

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hate to break it to ya, what he did was trolling the team. he didnt discuss the strategy with anyone beforehand, he just did it. Adc was unable to farm, mid has less xp than enemy mid. He put 2 lanes at an disadvantage and griefed them. Nightblue did say some stupid shit, but that was on stream not in chat he cant get banned for it, but afking in base is a different story.

main point is what teemo did was bannable and his punishment is deserved no matter how hard it sounds.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

He didn't troll the team, think before you post. Or review the summoners code yourself, he didn't do anything in bad faith, he was trying to win the whole time. Getting an entire team to afk because you don't agree with a strat is trolling and that is bannable. How are people like you so stupid?

T2K BakaJun 18, 20191 votes

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He didn't troll the team, think before you post. Or review the summoners code yourself, he didn't do anything in bad faith, he was trying to win the whole time. Getting an entire team to afk because you don't agree with a strat is trolling and that is bannable. How are people like you so stupid?

he put the whole team behind because of the strat, and did that intentionally. He knew that would happen as well since he was playing master tier game, but he didn't care. You're hardstuck silver for 4 seasons, i dont think you would understand either way. The strat wouldve been fine if he got first blood and went bot, not soak up the xp for the single lane. He got mid fb, but then threw the advantage by splitting the xp. Nightblue handled the situation very poorly as well. He shouldve been more civilized, but acted like a monkey

MorbysJun 18, 20191 votes

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he put the whole team behind because of the strat, and did that intentionally. He knew that would happen as well since he was playing master tier game, but he didn't care. You're hardstuck silver for 4 seasons, i dont think you would understand either way. The strat wouldve been fine if he got first blood and went bot, not soak up the xp for the single lane. He got mid fb, but then threw the advantage by splitting the xp. Nightblue handled the situation very poorly as well. He shouldve been more civilized, but acted like a monkey

Being "hardstuck silver" has nothing to do with the argument at hand, if anything it seems to highlight how toxic higher ranks are when you don't follow a strict code that the players at that level play. Which begs the question, why isn't riot policing them more, since they CLEARLY need it.

T2K BakaJun 18, 20192 votes

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Being "hardstuck silver" has nothing to do with the argument at hand, if anything it seems to highlight how toxic higher ranks are when you don't follow a strict code that the players at that level play. Which begs the question, why isn't riot policing them more, since they CLEARLY need it.

being hardstuck silver means ur bad and don't know what you are talking about. You called me and idiot so im just returning the favor. You clearly don't understand how the game works and think its "off-meta" when its troll. Soaking up midlane's xp without his permission, forcing adc to 2v1 from lvl 1, and making 2 lanes ungankable is greifing. Nightblue had every right to be upset at noobrac. He has a 48% winrate on teemo. What a nice strat. from 411 games, he's got a 48% winrate on teemo. His 81% winrate is in flex and its gold 4. So basically low elo. The midlaner told him to leave or he'll report even before nightblue did. You should watch more educational videos on league since you CLEARLY need it.

Imagine this: you play adc

ur supp leaves to go mid

you cant farm and ur against a zyra and cait

jg cant come bot since you are too behind and they would kill u guys

if he does come enemy jg might countergank and u both die and lose tower.

you are both behind as well as the mid and the troll HIMSELF.

you lose the game and it cost you to drop in the chart.

its not hard to see why nightblue was upset, it amazes me how blind silvers can be to the troll.

btw ur hardstuck silver for 4 seasons, clearly u don't understand the frustration since you won't see him often while high elo players would see him more often. so it does have something to do with the argument at hand

MorbysJun 18, 20192 votes

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being hardstuck silver means ur bad and don't know what you are talking about. You called me and idiot so im just returning the favor. You clearly don't understand how the game works and think its "off-meta" when its troll. Soaking up midlane's xp without his permission, forcing adc to 2v1 from lvl 1, and making 2 lanes ungankable is greifing. Nightblue had every right to be upset at noobrac. He has a 48% winrate on teemo. What a nice strat. from 411 games, he's got a 48% winrate on teemo. His 81% winrate is in flex and its gold 4. So basically low elo. The midlaner told him to leave or he'll report even before nightblue did. You should watch more educational videos on league since you CLEARLY need it.

Imagine this: you play adc

ur supp leaves to go mid

you cant farm and ur against a zyra and cait

jg cant come bot since you are too behind and they would kill u guys

if he does come enemy jg might countergank and u both die and lose tower.

you are both behind as well as the mid and the troll HIMSELF.

you lose the game and it cost you to drop in the chart.

its not hard to see why nightblue was upset, it amazes me how blind silvers can be to the troll.

btw ur hardstuck silver for 4 seasons, clearly u don't understand the frustration since you won't see him often while high elo players would see him more often. so it does have something to do with the argument at hand

It doesn't mean I am bad, this is where a lot of players have a disconnect, they think there is some HUGE gap in skill between ranks but there really isn't its just slight adjustments in gameplay, I watch plenty of videos. And if someone did that to me, I would play extremely passive and farm. I wouldn't ragequit and afk then get my entire team to report one person. That's the difference between people who believe NB3 should be banned and those who don't. They are complicit with his actions b/c they themselves are toxic.

T2K BakaJun 19, 20191 votes

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It doesn't mean I am bad, this is where a lot of players have a disconnect, they think there is some HUGE gap in skill between ranks but there really isn't its just slight adjustments in gameplay, I watch plenty of videos. And if someone did that to me, I would play extremely passive and farm. I wouldn't ragequit and afk then get my entire team to report one person. That's the difference between people who believe NB3 should be banned and those who don't. They are complicit with his actions b/c they themselves are toxic.

LOL. There is a huge gap in skill between ranks, i dont think you understand. I only bring up ur rank to show that you're still missing knowledge of how the game works. That's why there are low ranks and higher ranks, thats why when high elo come to smurf they stomp on them, because they have better understanding of the game. Also if someone did that to u, you wouldn't play passive. You would be upset, communication is key and nubrac didn't communicate.

btw nightblue didnt ragequit, he was in base after 2 others were afk in base BEFORE him. He didn't get the team to report him, the team already said that before. the midlaner was begging him to leave his lane, he refused to cooperate. He was griefing the game and deserves to get banned. I suggest you watch what happened because u seem misinformed. Nightblue afk's the one game, should be banned? Nubrac constantly griefs and shouldn't get banned?

How delusional are you?

Even tarzanned and alicopter think the ban was justified.

Tarzaned the one who gets rank one every season almost.

MorbysJun 19, 20192 votes

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LOL. There is a huge gap in skill between ranks, i dont think you understand. I only bring up ur rank to show that you're still missing knowledge of how the game works. That's why there are low ranks and higher ranks, thats why when high elo come to smurf they stomp on them, because they have better understanding of the game. Also if someone did that to u, you wouldn't play passive. You would be upset, communication is key and nubrac didn't communicate.

btw nightblue didnt ragequit, he was in base after 2 others were afk in base BEFORE him. He didn't get the team to report him, the team already said that before. the midlaner was begging him to leave his lane, he refused to cooperate. He was griefing the game and deserves to get banned. I suggest you watch what happened because u seem misinformed. Nightblue afk's the one game, should be banned? Nubrac constantly griefs and shouldn't get banned?

How delusional are you?

Even tarzanned and alicopter think the ban was justified.

Tarzaned the one who gets rank one every season almost.

Yes, ask other high ranking elo individuals their thoughts, because their opinions trump what is clearly stated in the code of conduct, and you're pretty cluless if you think there is some huge gap, especially in NA ROFL. The only ones delusional are the ones who honestly think NB3 shouldn't get banned, not only b/c of his actions in game but outside of it too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0vrbz/jensen_doublelift_icu_and_forest_challenger/eral1ac/?context=10000

Read the post by the rioter, especially of note, "We do not approve of LPP members threatening players with this privilege and we address these instances when it happens." Which is exactly what he did. You can't expect people to follow your BS rules if you don't even adhere to the simplest ones. AFKing, even if its "to save time" is still afking. You have ZERO chance to win when you just give up, as opposed to working with what you got. Us "hardstuck silvers" know this b/c we deal with it EVERYDAY. You man-children have this happen to you occasionally and you lose your shit, at least he was still trying. The only people that griefed was his team.

Let me reiterate a concept I went over in the last paragraph, you take away any chance of winning by giving up and just afking, you still have a chance working with the team by still trying. Sorry but there is no excuse for NB3 and his teams actions. Regardless of how you view Nubrac as "trolling". This seems to be the concept you kids don't seem to get in your "ivory tower".

T2K BakaJun 19, 20191 votes

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Yes, ask other high ranking elo individuals their thoughts, because their opinions trump what is clearly stated in the code of conduct, and you're pretty cluless if you think there is some huge gap, especially in NA ROFL. The only ones delusional are the ones who honestly think NB3 shouldn't get banned, not only b/c of his actions in game but outside of it too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0vrbz/jensen_doublelift_icu_and_forest_challenger/eral1ac/?context=10000

Read the post by the rioter, especially of note, "We do not approve of LPP members threatening players with this privilege and we address these instances when it happens." Which is exactly what he did. You can't expect people to follow your BS rules if you don't even adhere to the simplest ones. AFKing, even if its "to save time" is still afking. You have ZERO chance to win when you just give up, as opposed to working with what you got. Us "hardstuck silvers" know this b/c we deal with it EVERYDAY. You man-children have this happen to you occasionally and you lose your shit, at least he was still trying. The only people that griefed was his team.

Let me reiterate a concept I went over in the last paragraph, you take away any chance of winning by giving up and just afking, you still have a chance working with the team by still trying. Sorry but there is no excuse for NB3 and his teams actions. Regardless of how you view Nubrac as "trolling". This seems to be the concept you kids don't seem to get in your "ivory tower".

Ok silver, let me explain it to you since you still don't understand.

Nightblue and the rest of the team afk'd. And what should happen? Get a 5 min leaverbuster? 20 min? Fine then if you want to be petty about it.

You have zero chance of winning if you give up. OK, but why did they give up? Because one player decided to ruin the game for the 4 others? What makes him so special? Why is he allowed to ruin the game for the rest of the team. That's flawed logic there.

You hardstuck silvers deal with it everyday because you are most of the playerbase, that's why when you get to high elo, people are at their peak and the only thing that makes a differnce is the mental. IF you fk ur team's mental then the game is lost. "The only people that griefed was his team.". Again go and do some research on what xp is in league of legends. Then come back with this point.

Btw there is a big difference between low and high elo. Why do you think they are at the top of the ladder of at least a million players. You are actually delusional if you think a silver player and a master player are the same skill level. You're telling me, that if Caps went against a silver in solo queue by either smurfing or by the enemy buying a high elo account, then you need help. You get better at this game, by putting time into it and learning through experience. You might get the occasional prodigy, but then again they still have more understanding of the game than the average player. You are not the same as voyboy, he has way more gameplay knowledge than you, and not just him, but every high elo player. They have a better understanding of the game and they say that nubrac was griefing.

" Let me reiterate a concept I went over in the last paragraph, you take away any chance of winning by giving up and just afking, you still have a chance working with the team by still trying"

This is a funny statement because there was no team to work with since he didn't want to work with them. He did his own thing and they got fked over. Sorry but there is no excuse for Nubrac and his actions. He deserves the punishment and that's it. Nightblue might need a leaverbuster for afk, but that's it.

Also show me where NB3 threaten Nubrac? Stop pulling shit from your ass, watch the whole stream, match, or whatever. Then come back with that bs if you even can.

Another thing i have to explain since you don't understand. Nightblue's actions outside the game and in his stream shouldn't be punished. Why? Because its not part of the game, he was saying this outside of the game. It's like you getting upset with a player and calling them a fkin r%%%%%. The same thing here, if anything Nubrac deserves to get punished on twitch, since he was streaming NB3 stream on his own stream without permission breaking the twitch TOS.

you are a great examle of a typical silver thinking they deserve challenger.

MorbysJun 19, 20191 votes

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Ok silver, let me explain it to you since you still don't understand.

Nightblue and the rest of the team afk'd. And what should happen? Get a 5 min leaverbuster? 20 min? Fine then if you want to be petty about it.

You have zero chance of winning if you give up. OK, but why did they give up? Because one player decided to ruin the game for the 4 others? What makes him so special? Why is he allowed to ruin the game for the rest of the team. That's flawed logic there.

You hardstuck silvers deal with it everyday because you are most of the playerbase, that's why when you get to high elo, people are at their peak and the only thing that makes a differnce is the mental. IF you fk ur team's mental then the game is lost. "The only people that griefed was his team.". Again go and do some research on what xp is in league of legends. Then come back with this point.

Btw there is a big difference between low and high elo. Why do you think they are at the top of the ladder of at least a million players. You are actually delusional if you think a silver player and a master player are the same skill level. You're telling me, that if Caps went against a silver in solo queue by either smurfing or by the enemy buying a high elo account, then you need help. You get better at this game, by putting time into it and learning through experience. You might get the occasional prodigy, but then again they still have more understanding of the game than the average player. You are not the same as voyboy, he has way more gameplay knowledge than you, and not just him, but every high elo player. They have a better understanding of the game and they say that nubrac was griefing.

" Let me reiterate a concept I went over in the last paragraph, you take away any chance of winning by giving up and just afking, you still have a chance working with the team by still trying"

This is a funny statement because there was no team to work with since he didn't want to work with them. He did his own thing and they got fked over. Sorry but there is no excuse for Nubrac and his actions. He deserves the punishment and that's it. Nightblue might need a leaverbuster for afk, but that's it.

Also show me where NB3 threaten Nubrac? Stop pulling shit from your ass, watch the whole stream, match, or whatever. Then come back with that bs if you even can.

Another thing i have to explain since you don't understand. Nightblue's actions outside the game and in his stream shouldn't be punished. Why? Because its not part of the game, he was saying this outside of the game. It's like you getting upset with a player and calling them a fkin r%%%%%. The same thing here, if anything Nubrac deserves to get punished on twitch, since he was streaming NB3 stream on his own stream without permission breaking the twitch TOS.

you are a great examle of a typical silver thinking they deserve challenger.

There's really nothing to respond to this, you're so delusional that you don't even see logic or reason. Of course there are differences, but I said they are slight changes in gameplay, it isn't some big secret that you keep telling yourself. I understand breaking that little wall of yours hurts your precious self esteem, but you aren't special, but I will stop since rank seems to give you validation in some pathetic form.

The rules are pretty set, regardless of what rank you are. And what he did along with the rest of the team, is bannable. Unless they are going to treat this like the GOP of our government, the rules set forward should be held accountable to everyone, not just "lower ranks". And until they either change the rules, people won't stop being outraged over it.

T2K BakaJun 20, 20191 votes

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There's really nothing to respond to this, you're so delusional that you don't even see logic or reason. Of course there are differences, but I said they are slight changes in gameplay, it isn't some big secret that you keep telling yourself. I understand breaking that little wall of yours hurts your precious self esteem, but you aren't special, but I will stop since rank seems to give you validation in some pathetic form.

The rules are pretty set, regardless of what rank you are. And what he did along with the rest of the team, is bannable. Unless they are going to treat this like the GOP of our government, the rules set forward should be held accountable to everyone, not just "lower ranks". And until they either change the rules, people won't stop being outraged over it.

You can't respond because you don't have anything to argue with. You actually don't understand how the game works and still argue, that's pretty sad. You keep saying slight changes yet you can't seem to change your gameplay. Having a higher rank and being able to continue to stay in that rank shows that you have more knowledge than the average player, which is silver/gold. You're pretty pathetic trying to push this "ivory tower" shit on me. You don't know the game as well as the high elo players. That is so simple to understand, so when someone with more knowledge is explaining then they're most likely right. If someone who is a doctor is talking about your medical condition and your friend says the doctor is wrong and that you don't have anything. Who are you going to believe? Someone who has more knowledge than the average person the field or someone with average knowledge.

You talk about rules and then forget about Nubrac ruining the game for the 4 players. What makes him more special than them? He tilted them and made them not want to play the game. How is that fair that he doesn't get punished. If you want nb3 to get punished so bad, then go to support like nb3 did with nubrac. You don't even know about the lpp thing, do you?. It doesn't give them more power over others, where their vote is more valuable. It just speeds up the process of a support ticket that is sent. He sent a support ticket, his "riot friend" is the support team. Just like everyone else.

Nubrac admits that teemo support is trash and it shouldn't be played, but goes teemo support? Explain how that makes sense. The best punishment nb3 can get is a leaverbuster for his afk behavior. Nubrac contradicts himself many times in a conversation between himself and nb3, tarzand, and alicopter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsYRKAGlORo

Come up with something better than "I understand breaking that little wall of yours hurts your precious self esteem", "ivory tower", and try to understand why rank is brought up. Even if you are elo boosted, if you aren't understanding how the game works, then you will drop to your elo eventually.

Btw Nubrac is allegedly being elo boosted, so I don't know if it was his stat that was working. Again allegedly, i dont know for sure, and i dont care.

MorbysJun 20, 20191 votes

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You can't respond because you don't have anything to argue with. You actually don't understand how the game works and still argue, that's pretty sad. You keep saying slight changes yet you can't seem to change your gameplay. Having a higher rank and being able to continue to stay in that rank shows that you have more knowledge than the average player, which is silver/gold. You're pretty pathetic trying to push this "ivory tower" shit on me. You don't know the game as well as the high elo players. That is so simple to understand, so when someone with more knowledge is explaining then they're most likely right. If someone who is a doctor is talking about your medical condition and your friend says the doctor is wrong and that you don't have anything. Who are you going to believe? Someone who has more knowledge than the average person the field or someone with average knowledge.

You talk about rules and then forget about Nubrac ruining the game for the 4 players. What makes him more special than them? He tilted them and made them not want to play the game. How is that fair that he doesn't get punished. If you want nb3 to get punished so bad, then go to support like nb3 did with nubrac. You don't even know about the lpp thing, do you?. It doesn't give them more power over others, where their vote is more valuable. It just speeds up the process of a support ticket that is sent. He sent a support ticket, his "riot friend" is the support team. Just like everyone else.

Nubrac admits that teemo support is trash and it shouldn't be played, but goes teemo support? Explain how that makes sense. The best punishment nb3 can get is a leaverbuster for his afk behavior. Nubrac contradicts himself many times in a conversation between himself and nb3, tarzand, and alicopter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsYRKAGlORo

Come up with something better than "I understand breaking that little wall of yours hurts your precious self esteem", "ivory tower", and try to understand why rank is brought up. Even if you are elo boosted, if you aren't understanding how the game works, then you will drop to your elo eventually.

Btw Nubrac is allegedly being elo boosted, so I don't know if it was his stat that was working. Again allegedly, i dont know for sure, and i dont care.

There is nothing to respond to because I have already made it clear, and yet you persist. You say its just nubrac versus the other 4 on the team, and yes maybe it would be if it was just some random game, but it wasn't. He is a popular streamer endorsed by Riot and a TON of people watched it, and the video was posted. Its no longer just the team versus nubrac. It became public opinion. He not only ruined his reputation but it highlighted how hypocritical Riot's rules and standards are.

People began to question why he could be so toxic and have ZERO repercussions while others would have been punished, quite harshly I might add, for the exact same behavior. It makes it worse because he is supposed to be a representation of Riot's standard as a "partner" so he should actually be held at a higher standard than the average player.

You talked in another response about how the summoners code states:

Enjoy yourself but not at the expense of others.

Making four other players not enjoy the game is perception, by this logic, someone who people gang up on and blame for a loss could be banned, which is exactly what happened here. Tilting someone is a personal state of mind, you can only tilt yourself. If you lose focus thats on you. Blaming others is childish and only shows the inability to control your own emotions.

T2K BakaJun 20, 20191 votes

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There's really nothing to respond to this, you're so delusional that you don't even see logic or reason. Of course there are differences, but I said they are slight changes in gameplay, it isn't some big secret that you keep telling yourself. I understand breaking that little wall of yours hurts your precious self esteem, but you aren't special, but I will stop since rank seems to give you validation in some pathetic form.

The rules are pretty set, regardless of what rank you are. And what he did along with the rest of the team, is bannable. Unless they are going to treat this like the GOP of our government, the rules set forward should be held accountable to everyone, not just "lower ranks". And until they either change the rules, people won't stop being outraged over it.

You wanna talk about rules?

In the summoners code that states :

Enjoy yourself but not at the expense of others.

Based on this rule Nubrac deserves a ban. He made the other 4 players not enjoy the game

HopeStartsWithUJun 17, 20193 votes

Everyone on these boards that hate on NB3 are literally the same guys who would spam the boards and say "why is matchmaking so shit, too many trolls."

The Teemo player obviously doesn't just play Teemo. He loses the majority of his games with Teemo and compensates with other champs as seen in his op.gg.

Pro players even agreed and supported NB3 because of how many games this Teemo guy ruined. The Rioter even ADMITTED that he heard about that guy already and would look more into it. Everyone here likes to ignore that part from the discord chat. High elo players (and pros who directly work with Riot) reported the guy several months ago and nothing happened. NB3 was just the last report.

And to the ones saying he didnt do anything wrong: Wanna be white knights, who obviously lie lmao gtfo none of you would play with this dumb teemo.

You hypocrites just push that shit because you hate on NB not because you want that Teemo unbanned. Stop that shit, it's tiring.

xAcidikJun 17, 20192 votes

Why are all of you hive-mind keyboard warriors pretending that Teemo supporting mid laners in your game without communication wouldn't tilt you? Stop. You're lying and you're just like the Teemo, riding the publicity it gets you.