Riot: We work hard to give players what they want.

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stfu riot knows what they're doing kappa

and once again the obvious joke gets downvoted

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I had a game earlier today where I went on an 8-round win streak despite having only 3 item components. The guy who went on a losing streak, but got 7 item components, went on to destroy the rest of us.

The only thing he lacked was HP. He didn't lack money (at least not much, in thanks to the lose streak bonus).

Games like that are infuriating. There is no plausible way to win.

There is PLENTY of RNG in the game without the number of items being random.

This one seems to be a example of someone managing the loss streak to get gold despite having the items to start winning earlier tbqh

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I had a game earlier today where I went on an 8-round win streak despite having only 3 item components. The guy who went on a losing streak, but got 7 item components, went on to destroy the rest of us.

The only thing he lacked was HP. He didn't lack money (at least not much, in thanks to the lose streak bonus).

Games like that are infuriating. There is no plausible way to win.

There is PLENTY of RNG in the game without the number of items being random.

I count everyones items every time. 100% of the time the 1st or second place winner was the person who had either the most items, or the most recurve bow items.

Never once seen anyone in the top 3 with low items, or mostly defensive items.

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How in the hell would the game play out if item drops weren't random? You get to pick which items you get?

actually dota underlords lets you pick out of 3 choices and it seems to work great for them

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How in the hell would the game play out if item drops weren't random? You get to pick which items you get? Then you end up with everyone running the same items and builds. If you mean making item drops guaranteed but still random which you get. Then sure but in what way? Will it be guaranteed up until you get X amount or maybe minimum 1 guaranteed per npc round? I don't see how this ends up pleasing anyone since even then RNG will still favor some people who get the minimum and then luck still showers them with gifts. I would much prefer a secondary weighting system that adds weight to champions you're super close to 3starring. Lacking a single champion and then requiring 20+ gold in refreshes until they show up is f**king depressing.

"How the hell would the game play out" With strategy like the mod for Dota this game is based on? The Dota 2 mod Riot ripped off is a million times more balanced. A pool of 50 "chess pieces" to pick from at the start of each round. Creeps and enemies drop items.

"how would you deal with everyone having the same items" How do you deal with it in summoner's rift? TFT needs to be balanced so certain classes beat other classes. Elementalists lose to shape shifters, shape shifters lose to sorcerers, sorcerers lose to knights and so on. Nobles go even with Imperials, Pirates go even with ninjas, phantoms with wilds, etc. (these are just rhetorical suggestions for the sake of example)

They have FUCKING RANKED MATCHMAKING for TFT. Drill that through your head mate, RANKED... LADDER... MATCHMAKING for a completely random game. The only way to solve this is to actually create metas where one brand of champ beats another, if the enemy has a yordle heavy team, you have to build voids (again, just an example)

If you see your enemy has a 3 star vayne with rageblade, you have to build an assassin with something else. That's why item drops should be standardized, or better yet. There should be a "shop" where each item costs some amount of gold. maybe 3 or 4?

Bang. I've solved the problem and made ranked TFT make sense. You're welcome. In any other scenario where RNG determines the outcome, ranked is meaningless when luck is almost 100% of the factor in winning games.

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How in the hell would the game play out if item drops weren't random? You get to pick which items you get? Then you end up with everyone running the same items and builds. If you mean making item drops guaranteed but still random which you get. Then sure but in what way? Will it be guaranteed up until you get X amount or maybe minimum 1 guaranteed per npc round? I don't see how this ends up pleasing anyone since even then RNG will still favor some people who get the minimum and then luck still showers them with gifts. I would much prefer a secondary weighting system that adds weight to champions you're super close to 3starring. Lacking a single champion and then requiring 20+ gold in refreshes until they show up is f**king depressing.

But that isn't the point hes made at all. The # of items you get is completely random aswell, meaning you can end up with 0 items in game, meaning you auto lose to RNG, rather than how you place your units based on your comp, based on their comp, based on who has their items, based on their champs etc.

Simple misunderstanding is all ^_^

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"We listen to the community"

They do. But only to those things they want to hear.

This happens to many of us especially during class : Selective Listening. LOL.

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Is this a question posted by Riot, a statement made by Riot, or just a troll post? Because, NO, Riot does not work "hard" at giving players what they /need/ Riot caters to children who lie, gang up on people who aren't in their pre-made group, make false reports, rally the opposing team to join their false case and get innocent people banned. I haven't played more than 10 games since you, RIOT, permanently banned my BETA-Season6 account for playing ONE game after being on hiatus for years. The situation? Non-ranked draft, 4 kids in a premade group trash talk me during hero select, during game, refuse to help during game, incessantly berate me, abandon me during team fights and shout in all chat "INT INT INT! REPORT!" This went on for bout 28min and they even convinced 2 people on the other team to join their cause and before I could even finish reporting 2 out of the 4 children on my so-called "team" I was hit with the "You've been permanently banned." window. After which I endured several thousand e-mails, most of which were generic automated replies (aka lies), regarding "We thoroughly and personally investigate every permanent ban, none are automated without being signed off on." There was zero investigation in my permaban. Chatlogs are not an end-all be-all investigation or definitive proof of something as harsh as taking away someones hard earned, high valued account and support from Day 1. When it comes to investigating whether or not to Permanently ban someone, Chatlogs should be at the VERY BOTTOM of consideration especially in the format its presented: only the chat you've put into the game. With ZERO context / correlation to what's being said from everyone else, an "insult" in chatlog bans is 99.9999% more likely to be a response to being berated, trash talked, etc for half an hour. Not including context is a huge red flag in you NOT WORKING HARD on anything in regards to how you handle PERMANENT bans. Had you watched the GAME REPLAY of what happened, you would have full scope and full perspective from EVERY SIDE of such a situation. I guarantee more people would not be permanently banned right now had you guys genuinely cared and worked as hard as you claim. I say all this from my heart because I absolutely LOVED your game and I played it passionately as well as competitively for YEARS since the moment it was playable. For you to treat me so disgustingly makes me never want to support you guys again. Moving on

What is your investigation process? Reading a non-contextualized chatlog? Was this not blatantly abused during Tribunal days where people were getting REWARDED for being trigger happy on banning kids who were getting ganged up on by their own team, falsely reported for finally snapping back at the immature remarks being hurled at them for a half hour straight? Yeah, Riot, I remember you gave rewards to kids who abused Tribunal, and thus, began the Report Abuse. This trend didn't die when you got rid of rewarding Tribunal volunteers This trend didn't fizzle out when you got rid of Tribunal altogether

No, what happened instead was you created a Community built entirely on TWO OPTIONS:

1. If you're like me and have no one to play with, you have to suck it up and /muteall 1a) You can't even joke with people on your team, why? because text has no tone. Anything can and will be twisted into "toxic" (GOD I HATE THAT WORD) or "Griefing" HATE THAT WORD EVEN MORE 1b) If you do muteall, you rob yourself the potential to meet and make new friends to game with in the future, If you don't muteall and try to chat, you get reported. 1Example) MY latest chat-ban / restriction is the result of being able to type 240wpm. I did not use profanity, I did target anyone personally, I did not use racial slurs, I did not tell anyone to off themself, I did not TRASH TALK ANYONE. What I did was state FACTS. Such facts as Bot lane (on my team, in team chat, answering a questoin to our jungler "What happened this game?" I replied, "Bot lane went 0-8 and 0-7, imo it looks like they int'd because now they're fake afking to avoid leaverbuster" During the remainder of the game, opposing team even agreed I wasn't BM'ing anyone and that I was actually doing no more and no less than STATING FACTS that happened in the game. Not with a negative tone, nor positive, but a neutral-straight-to-the-point FACTUAL tone. Being able to type fast and stating KDA's or facts such as "our team is refusing to gather for team objectives I.E. killing drakes, contesting drakes, grouping, defending, etc. Stated JUST like that. That's how I got chat restricted after speaking this same manner in all my games

2. Last night I had the unpleasant experience of trying my best to play with another premade group in non-ranked (blind pick this time but it hoenstly doesn't matter the game mode) - Lucien was spamming pings. Knowing that pre-game, I asked my teammates to please keep their eyes open for my pings due to my inability to chat courtesy of false reports getting me chat restricted. Verbatim, "Team, please keep a look out for my pings as I'm chat-restricted." About 9min into game I realized what Lucien was doing (other than feeding bot lane, which god forbid I mention that fact, since ASKING your team to stop feeding or "back up under turret / play safe / play smarter / play as a team" is NOW considered offensive and IS 100% bannable. This Lucien began to spam pings, randomly. Anywhere I was on map, he would spam my location. Unlike the other 2 who were not in his duo group, Master Yi "jungle" who refused to EVER go to drake even when it was wide open, made me solo herald while he died constantly over extending, I believe his final KDA was 2-8 or 1-8? With 1/5 the CS of everyone else in game excluding supports obviously. Master Yi became rallying for opposing team to report ME for "spamming pings" when in reality it was Lucien. could I defend myself in All Chat? No. Why? Another group of immature children who YOU , RIOT, CATER to and I could not even DEFEND MYSELF against flat out lies.

... TBC if i care to continue, I feel as if no Riot employee will read this and take it to heart. in all honesty, I can see my post being treated in an extremely harsh manner and time will soon tell

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