Do you actually have to resort to banning people in pre/post game lobby? I literally reform so i don't get banned, but ofc riot, you are a greedy PC culture company that actually now banns people because of pre/post game lobby, this is actually unreal, and ofc it flys under the radar, no big announcment or anything to even let your players know lol.
Dreamspitter10 votesDo you actually have to resort to banning people in pre/post game lobby? I literally reform so i don't get banned, but ofc riot, you are a greedy PC culture company that actually now banns people because of pre/post game lobby, this is actually unreal, and ofc it flys under the radar, no big announcment or anything to even let your players know lol.
How does greed play into this?
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Solutate1 votesHow does greed play into this?
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ban a player, makes new acc, more chances they buy champs/skins
SEKAI6 votesban a player, makes new acc, more chances they buy champs/skins
Except most people leave the game for good after perma. Most of people who would stay is when the banned account is their throwaway smurf, which they wouldn't have put much if any money in.
Permabanning is not a money making scheme, it's a money losing scheme, one that is done because getting rid off toxic players is more valuable than trying to get their money. Same reasons why restaurant kick misbehaving customers out not because they somehow would get more money from this said misbehaving customer by kicking them out, but because other proper customers would be affected if they do not act and in term might lose the business money; and you'd be very wrong indeed to believe the former is the intent.
Solutate1 votesExcept most people leave the game for good after perma. The only people who would stay is when the banned account is their throwaway smurf, which they wouldn't have put much if any money in.
Permabanning is not a money making scheme, it's a money losing scheme, one that is done because getting rid off toxic players is more valuable than trying to get their money. Same reasons why restaurant kick misbehaving customers out not because they somehow would get more money from this said misbehaving customer by kicking them out, but because other proper customers would be affected if they do not act and in term might lose the business money; and you'd be very wrong indeed to believe the former being the intent.
Most people leave the game after a perma? Lol no, link me anything proving this, anything at all.
SEKAI1 votesMost people leave the game after a perma? Lol no, link me anything proving this, anything at all.
Most people will stop playing the game if their main is banned. Same reason why if your WoW main toon is accidentally deleted, it's unthinkable you'd still find motivation to continue playing.
The only instance you'd keep on playing is when the account perma'ed is not at somewhere that truly hurts, meaning, it wouldn't have much investment in it either way.
Solutate1 votesMost people will stop playing the game if their main is banned. Same reason why if your WoW main toon is accidentally deleted, it's unthinkable you'd still find motivation to continue playing.
The only instance you'd keep on playing is when the account perma'ed is not at somewhere that truly hurts, meaning, it wouldn't have much investment in it either way.
Thats so dumb you sound actually dumb, you can instantly recover your toon, 2 completely different games, where 1 is literally just competitive and ones and rpg, im still waiting for a source.
SEKAI1 votesThats so dumb you sound actually dumb, you can instantly recover your toon, 2 completely different games, where 1 is literally just competitive and ones and rpg, im still waiting for a source.
That's completely missing the point. If your WoW main character is deleted without a mean to recover, most player would just quit the game entirely.
Also, they're not that different, between your main WoW toon and your main LoL account. They are both something you can hold in special places due to the investment and commitment you'd put into them: sheer memories, limited edition items, whatever catalogue of virtual goods you'd assembled, achievement etc etc. If you lose them, then for the vast majority of the time you also lose interest in whatever it is associated with, because ain't no one is bothered enough to recreate their first time and duplicate the effort and resources put originally into their main whatever, not to mention you can't recreate your first time anyway.
You'd only be bothered to restart when what you lost is easily re-create-able, meaning the amount of "extra" cash Riot would be getting from doing your hypothesised exercise would be absolutely meager compared to their current revenue, making it completely not worth doing as it is an non-existent amount of cash followed by a bunch of PR problems. Let's just say no matter how dumb Riot is, they are not that level of dumb.
Solutate1 votesThat's completely missing the point. If your WoW main character is deleted without a mean to recover, most player would just quit the game entirely.
Also, they're not that different, between your main WoW toon and your main LoL account. They are both something you can hold in special places due to the investment and commitment you'd put into them: sheer memories, limited edition items, whatever catalogue of virtual goods you'd assembled, achievement etc etc. If you lose them, then for the vast majority of the time you also lose interest in whatever it is associated with, because ain't no one is bothered enough to recreate their first time and duplicate the effort and resources put originally into their main whatever, not to mention you can't recreate your first time anyway.
You'd only be bothered to restart when what you lost is easily re-create-able, meaning the amount of "extra" cash Riot would be getting from doing your hypothesised exercise would be absolutely meager compared to their current revenue, making it completely not worth doing as it is an non-existent amount of cash followed by a bunch of PR problems. Let's just say no matter how dumb Riot is, they are not that level of dumb.
A WoW acc has up to 11 toons, and your bringing up a hypothetical, there IS a means to recover your champ lol.
SEKAI1 votesA WoW acc has up to 11 toons, and your bringing up a hypothetical, there IS a means to recover your champ lol.
If it's not WoW, then use some other game where you can't recover your main toon, main account, main whatever, that's not the main point. Not sure why you're consistently, and almost intentionally, missing the point.
The main point is that if you lose something actually or even very valuable to you, then you'd be pretty upset. And sad people generally won't come back to the place that make them sad, and even if they do, they won't commit nearly as much as before. And that's where the perma comes in, it aims to make misbehaving players sad, and in term they will leave and never come back or at least touch the game less and be less involved; meaning it is not a money making scheme, like how no one with more than 2 braincells will think throwing out a customer is an attempt to make more money off them.
The only chance it has in making money, is when Riot targets the "small" accounts which its "value" can be easily recreated by the player where they are thus more likely to restart (note "more likely"), but you can also bet your asses that they're probably not going to spend more than the whatever little they'd spent previously, at least not for anytime soon.
So at most Riot can get off some pocket change off doing this (though most likely Riot won't even make enough change to buy lunch by doing this), while risking a ton of PR nightmare. If you're the financial manager or advisor at Riot, would you be doing the money scheme? I wouldn't. Because it's a money scheme easily worse than making a non-p2w game pay-to-win.
Hethalean2 votesban a player, makes new acc, more chances they buy champs/skins
Except Riot has explained that people who come back with new accounts are far less likely to spend $$$ on that account than those who keep their accounts... Not only that it really doesn't take a rigorous thought experiment to see how people are not going to risk it.
Dreamspitter2 votesban a player, makes new acc, more chances they buy champs/skins
Ah I see. Well the person who does that is an idiot with no self control, who can't keep out of where they're not wanted.
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ADC Bard1 votesAh I see. Well the person who does that is an idiot with no self control, who can't keep out of where they're not wanted.
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Why do you think they want to ban lootboxes ?
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Why do you think they want to ban lootboxes ?
Loot boxes have nothing to do with banned players.
Audhulma6 votesIf you're still a toxic piece of shit in pre/post game chat then you haven't actually reformed, I don't see what you're confused about. They started monitoring pre/post game chat like a year ago, maybe more, and the rest of us knew about it too.
RallerenP5 votesDo you actually have to resort to banning people in pre/post game lobby? I literally reform so i don't get banned, but ofc riot, you are a greedy PC culture company that actually now banns people because of pre/post game lobby, this is actually unreal, and ofc it flys under the radar, no big announcment or anything to even let your players know lol.
Dang man I hate it when companies don't warn me to be a decent human being, except for the very clear rules stating it when I made the account and several times after that. So annoying.
I mean they really should just have a pop up every time you open the chat saying: Hey! Be nice!
But instead I have to actually remember some rules, or use simple human decency and not flame my teammates!!!! How do they expect me to not flame my Jungler after I died toplane????? So what we were 3 minutes into the game, and I didn't leash him.
He's just an internet person, he doesn't actually feel anything. I AM THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE ANIME WE CALL LIFE!!!!
Dang PC culture..
SEKAI2 votesAlso, Riot has been taking pre-game and post-game chat into the consideration for quite a long time. It has always been a myth that they don't when in fact it's been the case for a significant amount of time.
Colgate Gator2 votesIf there was an award for missing the point...OP wouldn't get the point.
HalcyonDweller2 votesSolutate, you are sorely mistaken.
And you're just looking for any excuse to claim Riot would ban you other than the fact that you did something wrong. You got banned. It happened. You can't change that. And no amount of griping about how Riot is greedy will change the boards' minds about you. You're arguing from a very biased position, you want it to be true so badly that you're insisting that greed is the reason you got banned.
If you want to have a genuine discussion about what problems Riot may or may not have, this is not the way to go about it.
You got yourself banned. Accept it. Learn from it. And get over it.
MystVearn1 votesThis is nothing new, most people just don't do it, and in case you don't know what happened, someone took a screenshot of whatever garbage you were spouting in the lobby and directly contacted Riot via email, after that they probably started monitoring you.