Which of the 2 champions who need to be in the VGU list the "most" after Fiddlesticks and Volibear?

I say Facts·11/1/2019, 2:36:12 AM·24 votes·13,405 views

Assuming that they will remember their original post and the left over top tier champions for VGU were only Shyvana DrMundo Skarner Nocturne There are plenty of 2nd tier VGU list, that's true, but from the first list, who do you think the 2 that really would need it the most after Volibear Fiddlesticks ?

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Creamy Eevee11/1/2019, 2:38:40 AM12 votes

Skarner doesnt exist anymore again outside of aram

nachocheeseeeee11/1/2019, 5:41:40 AM9 votes

I feel like others could be added on that list. Udyr Rammus are almost just as badly in need of a rework.

BBKong11/1/2019, 2:42:18 AM9 votes

I just want my boy Noc to get love. Sure, he's not the worst champion, but his kit is split in 2 different directions and doesn't make that much sense overall. Plus holy shit, imagine the effects on the visual update with today's graphics. God it sounds so good. I hope they do him right

Balrogahmed11/1/2019, 4:15:29 AM9 votes

I voted for Skarner because he'll make me play league again if they vgu him.

Chembaron Yamada11/1/2019, 8:07:43 AM8 votes

Dr. Mundo, hands down. Some people in here say that his gameplay is fine, since he has a niche and all. But looking at his kit, he needs work. Let the following sink in: almost his entire kit just consists of stat steroids!

W is a glorified sunfire cape with tenacity steroid. E is auto reset with double stat steroid (MR and AD). R is basically just hugely buffed health regen. And his passive is literally just "I have more health regen than other guys".

It is uninspired, it is boring and it needs work. And VGUs aren't just about the gameplay. Also about lore and visuals. How someone can look at Dr. Mundo, a champion which looks more like a character of a playstation one adaption of some weird cartoon than a champion from League of Legends, and honestly think that he is fine is beyond me.

SpongebobIsLife11/1/2019, 5:24:15 AM8 votes

skarner 100 percent needs changes.

Shyvana is supposed to be like dragon knight from dota but doesn't really give off the dragon vibe. Never really a good time to pick shyvana.

Mundo still has a great niche against magic damage. Needs work but doesn't need it immediately.

Noct has a good fantasy, but doesn't deliver, plus he is supposed to be an assassin yet his ratios are garbage so he builds attack speed and runs down adcs. falls off the hardest out of all assassins.

All-in-All Shyvana and skarner probably need it the most, but they would probably do nocturne and skarner, because skarner is obviously the most far gone of the bunch and noct is the most popular of the four, so he would make them more money.

Goate11/1/2019, 4:21:38 AM7 votes

Shyvana is my favorite character, I would look forward to see her in list. I never seen Skarner in the game tbh, but either one of these 3 Skarner DrMundo Nocturne would be interesting to see, as soon as they give a VGU to Shyvana too :)

Moody P11/1/2019, 8:02:36 AM4 votes

Kennen.

boricCentaur111/1/2019, 2:57:37 AM4 votes

Skarner and DrMundo. Both look like shit and have horrible game play. But I really do think champions like Jax and Vladimir need it more.

I hoping they don't do Shyvana since how they talked about her sounds horrible.

What they talk about Shyvana sounds like she will be a completely different champion. Which is sad since she is the only on hit or auto based juggernaut which is a cool idea.

Ryusaether11/1/2019, 9:31:46 AM3 votes

Voted Shyvana and Nocturne

Both because they really don't deliver on their theme in my opinion. Shyvana is supposed to be a dragonborn, a strong humanoid with dragon powers that can become a fierce and strong dragon, but right now she's just an AA based champ that can be built as an OTP burst mage with only 1 available spell. I would like to see an hybrid juggernaut with proper abilities, maybe keep her a bir auto-based but give her more satisfying abilities. Noc really doesn't deliver on the power fantasy of a nightmare incarnate, ult aside. His model is so clunky an not spooky, and his abilities don't scare at all, much like Fiddlesticks.

I don't think they are worse than Skarner nor DrMundo, but they are the ones I look forward to the most.

RyzeRework11/1/2019, 8:13:04 AM3 votes

Amumu Rammus Zac

Tin Obliterates11/1/2019, 1:44:24 PM3 votes

Skarner doesn't even exist anymore.

ÈvilMorty11/1/2019, 9:13:58 PM3 votes

tbh skarner needs it the most but imo the other 3 listed have always been viable, hell i could argue that noc and for at least one point in every season that mundo is a pick or ban.

FlameHalbrdOkido11/2/2019, 4:23:01 AM3 votes

Skarner, Tryndamere, Sona, Udyr

BG Shamber11/2/2019, 1:26:09 AM2 votes

Just give skarner a new skin

Bouncemaster Zac11/2/2019, 9:32:56 AM2 votes

Honestly out of this list I think Skarner is the one who needs it least. All of the others are "do one thing" Champions. DrMundo walks at you with higher stats than you, Shyvana is now a full-ap oneshot bot whose only spell is her dragon form E, Nocturne is a "press R" champ who oneshots the adc then dies. Skarner may be defined by his point-and-click yeet, but at least his E is an interesting ability that lets him Do A Second Thing.

Hi Its Scirocco11/1/2019, 11:25:19 PM2 votes

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joywhodidthisjoy11/1/2019, 6:31:05 PM2 votes

Udyr he needs a rework nearly everywhere

Oleandervine11/1/2019, 3:29:16 PM2 votes

I voted for Mundo. That ugly bastard needs to be VGU'd immediately.

Ahris11/2/2019, 3:31:03 AM1 votes

Ahri her kit has two useless abilities, most of champs we want to change actually have a functioning kit.

NelsieLisnen11/1/2019, 10:17:09 AM1 votes

Shyv and Mundo. Why? Out of the four, they are the most "nothing", if that makes any sense. Nocturne can be fairly viable and saw considerable pro play last year if I'm not mistaken. Also, his concept as a spectral nightmare is somewhat covered by things like Evelynn and post rework Fiddle. Skarner is a cc bot, but at least he is a cc bot you can pick in a pro game or in soloQ and do well. Also, do excuse me, but I always thought his concept itself was due for a scrapping. He...just looks and feels lame to put it simply. Shyv, cool archetype, dragon warrior, while in reality she is nothing but a meme build and her dragon form looks like a malnourished dragon pup. And she's the only one we got. Rework due. Mundo is a joke. Extremely annoying if fed, depressingly bad if behind and needs some semblance of a mechanic other than a skillshot that would make him a bit unique. I think he has good potential to become a cool gameplay concept AND a well written comical character that also dances on the edge of body horror and SMism(which Volibear will sadly not deliver on).

That was my 100%, undeniably, indisputably, unequivocally floles tohguht pcroses