Yeah, it's that time again. I'm once again reposting my petition to remove the feeding rule so players having a bad game will no longer have to worry about reporting threats or being punished for something they're not doing. Sign my petition and save the innocent players who just can't get a break.
FOR JUSTICE9 votesYoure under the impression that getting reported = punishment.
All getting reported does is trigger a review of the game in question. If you didnt do anything, nothing will happen.
BlackRocket45431 votesYoure under the impression that getting reported = punishment.
All getting reported does is trigger a review of the game in question. If you didnt do anything, nothing will happen.
Well, the reporting threats themselves are an issue. They're pretty much a punishment in themselves by other players. And worse still, it's completely unwarranted. They're just having a bad game. You should save reporting threats for things that actually warrant it like verbal abuse.
HalcyonDweller4 votesWell, the reporting threats themselves are an issue. They're pretty much a punishment in themselves by other players. And worse still, it's completely unwarranted. They're just having a bad game. You should save reporting threats for things that actually warrant it like verbal abuse.
Threatening to report players is already punishable. Riot does punish people who do that to their fellow players.
And as Snap already said, if you didn't actually int, Riot won't punish you for inting.
BlackRocket45431 votesThreatening to report players is already punishable. Riot does punish people who do that to their fellow players.
And as Snap already said, if you didn't actually int, Riot won't punish you for inting.
Well, how do you know the system doesn't often get confused and get innocents banned anyway? No system is perfect, you know.
HalcyonDweller7 votesWell, how do you know the system doesn't often get confused and get innocents banned anyway? No system is perfect, you know.
Don't shift the burden of proof. I could say, "how do you know that there's not a pumpkin the size of a shipping-crate somewhere in the world?" That doesn't prove one exists. Lack of counter-evidence does not evidence make.
On the rare occasions where the system might actually punish innocent players, Riot can and would review their punishment (upon receiving a reasonably written support ticket from the player). If Riot's manual review found the player to be innocent or not deserving of as harsh of a punishment, Riot would lift or reduce said punishment.
BlackRocket45431 votesDon't shift the burden of proof. I could say, "how do you know that there's not a pumpkin the size of a shipping-crate somewhere in the world?" That doesn't prove one exists. Lack of counter-evidence does not evidence make.
On the rare occasions where the system might actually punish innocent players, Riot can and would review their punishment (upon receiving a reasonably written support ticket from the player). If Riot's manual review found the player to be innocent or not deserving of as harsh of a punishment, Riot would lift or reduce said punishment.
Wouldn't it be better if it just didn't happen at all? The feeding rule is a bad rule. It needs to be removed.
HalcyonDweller2 votesWouldn't it be better if it just didn't happen at all?
Maybe, if it happened with any consistency or severity, but it doesn't.
The feeding rule is a bad rule. It needs to be removed.
I'm still not convinced of this. You haven't made a persuasive case against it.
notFREEfood2 votesWell, how do you know the system doesn't often get confused and get innocents banned anyway? No system is perfect, you know.
You're the one saying the current system is bad. The onus of proof lies on you.
BlackRocket45431 votesYou're the one saying the current system is bad. The onus of proof lies on you.
I'm not focused so much on the system as I am on the feeding rule. It's a bad rule that needs to die.
notFREEfood2 votesI'm not focused so much on the system as I am on the feeding rule. It's a bad rule that needs to die.
But why is it bad? You're the one making the claim so you have to prove it.
As many people have said already, there have been no known cases where your hypothetical situation happened (someone getting punished for being bad) and riot already punishes people who harass their teammates with threats of reports.
ZenithEevee2 votesWell, the reporting threats themselves are an issue. They're pretty much a punishment in themselves by other players. And worse still, it's completely unwarranted. They're just having a bad game. You should save reporting threats for things that actually warrant it like verbal abuse.
Fun fact If you report people who spam "Report X for Y", They will get punished.
BeatzBoyFTW7 votesI don't recall seeing a single person who got banned for unintentional feeding.
The feeders who got banned were those who just gets easily tilted & does it to tilt his own teammates or simply griefing/gave up. That is nowhere near "innocent". Your petition here is simply useless.
Monkey With Guns2 votesI don't recall seeing a single person who got banned for unintentional feeding.
The feeders who got banned were those who just gets easily tilted & does it to tilt his own teammates or simply griefing/gave up. That is nowhere near "innocent". Your petition here is simply useless.
Ya this petition won't solve anything. No one gets banned for feeding unless they actually run it down lane and even then its a struggle to get those kind of players removed from the game.
NocturnalSheild6 votesI don't recall seeing a single person who got banned for unintentional feeding.
The feeders who got banned were those who just gets easily tilted & does it to tilt his own teammates or simply griefing/gave up. That is nowhere near "innocent". Your petition here is simply useless.
^This.
The system is already (most would say way too much) lenient.
Pika Fox1 votes^This.
The system is already (most would say way too much) lenient.
Thing is it needs to be lenient. Money is involved, and banning someone who you have no evidence of even breaking ToS (which already isnt a legal document and only becomes binding on a case by case basis) can become a pretty major lawsuit for the industry as a whole. Consumer protection laws are a thing, and theres a lot of grey assumptions made currently.
BlackRocket45431 votesI don't recall seeing a single person who got banned for unintentional feeding.
The feeders who got banned were those who just gets easily tilted & does it to tilt his own teammates or simply griefing/gave up. That is nowhere near "innocent". Your petition here is simply useless.
Just because you didn't see it happen doesn't mean it hasn't happened at all. And like I said to that other guy, how do you know the system doesn't get confused and get innocents banned anyway? No system is perfect, you know.
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesJust because you didn't see it happen doesn't mean it hasn't happened at all. And like I said to that other guy, how do you know the system doesn't get confused and get innocents banned anyway? No system is perfect, you know.
False bans happens, they can always submit a ticket to Riot Support. But I doubt this happens too often anyway, otherwise I'd be banned by now. The system isn't THAT shitty.
DrCyanide2 votesI'm not focused so much on the system as I am on the feeding rule. It's a bad rule that needs to die.
The rule is "don't intentionally feed or you'll get a 14 day ban" That's a good rule. That's a rule everyone (who's not a troll) can agree on. The rule, implemented perfectly, never harms anyone who's actually trying to play League of Legends.
So contrary to what you just said, you are indeed worried about the system that enforces that rule. Riot's also worried about the system that enforces the feeder punishment, which is why they go super slow with it.
A personal experience for why I don't worry about the system: I one-tricked Xerath in ranked, but I had one game that I got absolutely dumpstered, going 0/13/4. 13 out of our team's 33 deaths, or 40% death participation. First death ~2 minutes in, second death ~3 minutes in, dying over and over to the enemy LeBlanc. I know several teammates were absolutely livid with me and accused me of intentional feeding, no doubt reporting me after the game. No warning, no punishment, because despite feeding like mad I wasn't intentionally feeding.
Myrmiron1 votesThen on what basis do you punished players that intentionally feed?
Audhulma1 votesIt takes an incredibly long time to get punished at all for feeding, which is actually something toxic players bitch about. They get all pissed off because it's easier to quickly detect and ban chat offenses than it is to determine if a person is actually int feeding.
MysteriousBootie1 votesthat's not how it works tho