Get behind; you can't catch up. Fail a gank; you lose. Teammates tilt you further by talking shit and not helping you secure objs; you lose. I just can't play anymore. I know taking a break from this will be good for me but this jungle change fucking blows. The nerf to xp blows the nerf to gold blows. At least let us get more minion gold or some thing... Jeez it's famine or famine.
I don't think enemies are able to punish you for your mistakes that much in silver but I can definitely agree with teammates having an enourmous impact on the game, if not with gameplay, they can also tilt you enough to play more poorly.
If you're tilted from the game, I definitely advise you to step back from it for a month or two.
same for bot lane... get roamed on every 4 minutes by two lanes 3-4 levels above you. fun fun fun..
i respect junglers and always have. They have to go through hoops to learn their role. smite securing isn't as easy as it looks either. Everyone is always pinging them ,questioning their skill, flaming them, blaming them even when it clearly isn't their fault. Problem is that in lower elo (gold, from my experience) it doesn't seem like many players glance at their map every few seconds to see where everyone is. Soooo when their jg is getting reamed at their blue/gromp the adc is casually farming away under turret lol. then the adc dies to enemy jg + bot duo + possibly the enemy mid who roamed to help their jg kill our jg.
since adc needs to focus on last hitting i watch the map like a hawk. sometimes people bring up how often I ping different things but I ignore their griping because i'm saving lives. go ahead and mute my one-time serious pings i will be having the last laugh.
if you lose one fight it's difficult to come back from it without really good coordination and wave control. it's harder to help your own jg take back their camps as well. getting vision after a lost fight is also a pain... getting scuttle/drake for your jg as well is not so easy when the adc/supp can now 4 shot you and the jg with aa alone :\
not impossible just depends on what the team comps + communication is like.
I remember the time when I asked my JG if I can take raptors instead of blue to get exp and gold so I'm back in the game to contest mid ... now take one camp and they are handicapped AF
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Get behind; you can't catch up. Fail a gank; you lose. Teammates tilt you further by talking shit and not helping you secure objs; you lose. I just can't play anymore. I know taking a break from this will be good for me but this jungle change fucking blows. The nerf to xp blows the nerf to gold blows. At least let us get more minion gold or some thing... Jeez it's famine or famine.
This is the affect of having short matches. Jungle is no longer allowed to farm camps for items because they are limited on time. They have to farm from ganks. if you don't enjoy gank farming then you have to take another role. it does suck, and jungle has the worst of the changes from the runes, and mastery rework.
if they want to keep the current meta for the jungle role camps need to give double the exp, and double the gold from camps. Jungle needs his items completed faster than other roles because of how fast pace the game is now.
You can cry all you want about it being unfair, but seeing how the game forces players to fight for drag at only 8 to 10 mins of game play there is no choice. Unless they remove buffs that drag gives in which case they won't. So no matter what jungle has to be changed to match the current meta.
Quit no one cares
Oh you... Try playing Bot if you think you've got it bad.
You're a Supp and got a flamer ADC? Good luck getting ANYTHING done. You can't stay cause you're already behind, and you can't roam cause then AD flames even harder.
You're an ADC and got a Supp that suicides into enemy then blames you? Now you're behind and you might as well just hope your Mid/Top are fed so you can win... maybe.
At least in the Jungle and Solo lanes you're by yourself. You've got only yourself to blame for a bad play. We're stuck together bot. Even if we do good, if Mid/Top fed we have no agency in the game.
I mean unpopular opinion I fucking love the new jungle changes your first clear is kinda shit but your camps spawn so fast that I find myself hitting level 18 first in most my games. And all that other shit happens regardless of the season
jungling has become more simple, only farm group, wolves and buffs. gank and get a frame. raptors and drugs are useless now and only viable if you need enough gold for a pot lol. the meta now is to trust laners to carry and get em ahead, jg literally can't carry anymore.
what jungle changes
I mean, what is Riot supposed to do?Falling behind does indeed suck a lot but a jungler who does not or even wins is still a monster with terrifying impact and honestly you can play perfectly in lane only to have this 2.0.0
show up, run you down with hundreds more movespeed and ram you harder than a balista bolt.
Then you just drop dead being unable to do shit when the opposing laner catches up as you are busy being CC´d&already dying, how is it even remotely fair to have to deal with this? Even if you are slowly working up a lead in lane there is a large chance you´d die right away if this occurs, all efforts for nothing.
So yah.......what is Riot supposed to do? Try and stop the junglers from doing this or let them do it even if it makes everyone else miserable?
