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Likes/Dislikes/Expectations on the Nunu Rework

Altonius Amakiir·2/1/2018, 6:39:53 AM·1 votes·243 views

I will preface this with the fact that they haven't outright said it's Nunu, although the image definitely looks like his E (from the roadmap).

As a Nunu main I just want to put out there what I like about the kit already, and encourage others who play as, with, or against him to post what they like or dislike about him, just so they have some extra knowledge on it before going into the rework fully.

What I like:

  • I like his attack speed slows (cripples), I think it's really cool and niche that he has two large cripples that he can use to focus debuff someone (I like niche champions, and also champions that not many people like).

  • I like his dual buff identity (buffing himself and an ally/minion), especially that it buffs what you debuff on the enemy. It feels really good to play him support and getting to buff yourself and the adc, not just the adc. It just makes the feeling you are doing something more personal.

  • I like the high-health fantasy you have created with his Q (consume) where it multiplies your health. It feels really cool to build tank and have that multiply your health, it fulfills some tank fantasy that I can't quite place (and somehow Cho'gath doesn't fit that fantasy for me as well, maybe because its on Nunu's basic ability?).

  • I like how he has an ability dedicated to counter-jungling, it feels unique.

  • I love his crit animation.

  • I love Nunu Bot's voice lines (don't kill the Phreak quote or laugh please).

  • I really like how fast he is, it doesn't feel awful chasing someone down as him despite being melee.

What I don't like:

  • His passive. It isn't all that exciting. I only worry about it with his Q to get max true damage/efficient clear in jungle, and in the support role for mana sustain and E poke. Free mana doesn't actually feel that great, I would just rather have his mana and mana regen higher.

  • His W buff on allies doesn't feel that impactful. It may be because I'm not in coordinated play, but each individual buff on an ally feels to small, and it's power feels to spread out. Until recently it also felt really bad using it on anyone but adc (and even then the bonuses it gives them doesn't usually amount to much it feels).

  • His E feels really gimmicky and unsatisfying. It's a spammable slow that you generally don't want to max until last. The cripple doesn't scale with rank (which I would consider it's highest power contributer), and I don't like how it has high base and scaling, it's painful to watch people in ARAM go full AP and then get burst because Nunu has zero base stats. I also hate the short range, and think the projctile speed is a bit unfair for poking people under their towers (although certainly fun).

  • I don't like how much his kit seems to demand you to build AP for how little it is actually optimal. Like the E ratio, the R ratio, the recent Q and W buffs, and the heal on his Q. They all have really good AP ratios, but he has such poor base resistances that you won't be tanky enough if you buy into AP.

  • I don't like how squishy he feels prior to building MR and armor. It has the same feeling as playing a diver top lane during laning phase, which feels really bad since he is a tank.

  • I don't like how situational his ult feels due to how easily interruptible it is.

What I would like to see:

  • To feel like a tank early game (not outdamaged and out tanked by most other junglers level 1).

  • More emphasis on forming a duo squad with someone on the team. I think he has potential to feel not like a support, but as a partner when he does something like using his W.

  • More emphasis on stat "stealing". I think the idea behind the W+E combo could feel more impactful (slow an enemies' AS and MS, boost my team's).

  • A similar Q, but with some other use cases. I want to be able to use it (for potentially completely different effects) on things besides minions/monsters. But I don't want it to be complicated like his old Q before you changed it to %health stacks. I feel like this ability is the most iconic.

  • A similar ult. As much as his ult has problems, it feels really impactful and I actually like the channel/interruption mechanic of it.

  • A Nunu Bot skin that still emphasizes the voice lines. It feels like a very unique skin because of the voice lines, in fact I hat the visuals for the most part, but I use it almost every game because I love the voice lines so much.

  • Nunu not clipping through Wilump.

  • Would be cool to see some adaptive stuff for buffs he provides (if you do allow him to buff an ally still, which I hope you do because that's like his only thematic).

On a side note, was the Nunu buffs completely coincidental or did you guys get the AP giving idea for his W from my rework idea a few months back? https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/5Ar3oth7-another-nunu-rework-idea I happened to look at it again to see if it was any good and to make get ideas for this from it, and noticed the AP giving idea on it's W. Just asking for the sake of bragging rights to friends, the fact I came up with that in the short time period it took to make that kit, means it probably wasn't that hard to think of coincidentally.

Also really happy I guessed Xenogenic as Nunu rework correctly last month.

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