Can we get an update on the Karma update?

Common Satyr·1/15/2019, 2:31:57 AM·12 votes·8,257 views

A couple months ago riot was really active with talking with us with what they were trying. Asking what our thoughts were on it.

Now it has been months of silence and nothing has shipped. So how is it going? did you like what was tested? Did it all get scraped?

info please.

8 Comments

Winterkill1/15/2019, 3:36:11 AM7 votes

It was already said that she is at the bottom of a long art que, waiting for the time of day to get art assets added to the new Mantra W ally mechanic. The rework itself is largely disliked but Riot Game Developers are still putting it through regardless. The community yet again got another excuse as to why nothing was changed or improved, but a reassurance that it is coming sometime this year.

Players wanted better functionality with Mantra Q and not another damage buff, players wanted her fans ban, players wanted her old Mantra E back or a drastically more unique way to use her Mantra E, and a completed VU. There is nothing being done on this champion but another support oriented gimmick that forces Karma to press one button to make her allies more useful, just like her Mantra E caters to allies to make them more useful as well. The update was lazy and they know it, but Riot NeuroCat wanted to reassure us that it's coming and the 10 people who are excited about it should be allowed to be excited about it.

What sucks even more is that Karma players, yet again, were hopeful for a revert or at least some actual effort to be put into this champion . . . but it's not happening and it will never happen as long as this current Development team works for Riot. They don't care and they basically manipulated everyone with their feedback about what they wanted for a Karma rework . . . . but got not a single thing really addressed or improved.

MorgManBasher1/15/2019, 9:54:39 AM3 votes

She is fine the way she is, just needs a visual update Champs extremely strong in lane phase and falls off later damage wise while still applying ardent to her whole team. Champs good.

Original Karma was overrated. She was fun, but only because I had fun taking her mid an stacking 3 gold per 5 items and rushing death cap.

Elf04911/15/2019, 2:53:30 AM3 votes

I'm assuming that she won't be touched for the next few years, leaving her in a place of utter desolation. Riot clearly has no interest in doing anything constructive with her, and I really don't see that changing anytime soon, unfortunately.

Karfuss1/15/2019, 8:49:03 AM2 votes

She'll be at the absolute bottom of list of champions that need updating. I wouldn't be surprised that even brand new update plans will instantly receive a higher priority than Karma.

While she needs work, she isn't an "ugly" champ with bad VFX, which seems to be the measure of how deserving of an update they are. Evelynn is in the exact same boat, that needs slight ability updates akin to the mage reworks.

Morgana and Kayle are next in line for a VGU (rightly so, Kayle needs everything doing and Morgana could do with a passive and W change with a model update, plus it's a good excuse to work with their lore beyond "vindictive sisters from another planet with angels?"), then I imagine Rammus, Malphite, Pantheon, Ammumu, Fiddlesticks followed by champions like Ziggs, Renekton, Corki etc who only need model/VFX work but otherwise have healthy kits. Then we'll get back round to Karma, and the champions that need class update level mini-reworks.

FullmuteAll play1/15/2019, 4:04:37 AM2 votes

Can actually somebody tell me what is exaclty wrong about her ? I just can't find why she needs any updates ability wise. P.S I read comment above, but still not sure why it is so bad. Idk what her E used to be like, but I can't see what's wrong about it, isn't it basically any enchanter ability ?

Pàngea1/15/2019, 7:04:47 AM2 votes

I really like the current Karma, tbh... I play her mid and I'm loving it. People just need to know when to utilize her mantra's properly... If you're being engaged on, R+W. Are you running in to save someone important? R+E for an empowered shield on them. Enemy barely out of reach with your Q? R+Q to finish them off. If you're team fighting, R+Q to hit multiple people, chances are that damage dropped your ult CD to use it again. R+E.

I think her kit is super useful and fun to play, especially in the mid lane. Yasuo throw his wind wall up? snare him, walk around it, R+Q. Out traded.

(Yes, I have also played original karma... she was fun too)

AjXtar1/15/2019, 4:25:36 AM1 votes

Over a year anyway. Lissandra was pretty much in the exact same spot and "announced" her changes every 2-3 months.

jocomotion1/15/2019, 2:37:01 AM1 votes

Second it.