Wtf is WW's scaling on Q?

Glîtchy··1 votes·499 views

His bite heals SO much without actually building AP (the healing scales on AP) why hasn't this been nerfed? plus it's even worse since he can bite then cut you off then howl, thus turning a possible kiting kill into a "haha fuck you, I'm warwick"

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Nixtarma2 votes

Warwick's Q heal does not actually scale with anything other than damage dealt, and ranks.

ACTIVE: Warwick dashes to the target enemy and bites them, dealing them magic damage, applying on-hit effects and healing himself for a portion of the damage dealt. This percentage is 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70%. (both form the League Wiki)

If you faced a Warwick that was healing a lot, he was probably maxing Q. Note that it's damage paradigm is rather unusual. First off, it has no base damage. Instead, it has a 120% AD ratio, so this ability is essentially an empowered auto-attack with 20% additional scaling, which puts it on equal footing with a max-rank Trundle Q, scaling-wise. Additionally, it does scale with 90% AP, and also does a percentage of your maximum health. Remember, he heals for a percentage of all of that, further increased by Spirit Visage and the Runic Armor Mastery, which is common on Warwicks.

I see other posts which highlight how to counter healing.

Hope this helps, -Nixtarma

Ralanr1 votes

Because GW really hurts his healing and is cheap to get.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Because GW really hurts his healing and is cheap to get.

GW?

Nixtarma2 votes

Grevious Wounds.

Dani El Pezglobo1 votes

item 3165 item 3123 summoner 14 item 3075 already reduce thim heal , and he have to be melee , i think he is fine right now , since it only heal u 2 much when u are really low hp

Glîtchy1 votes

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item 3165 item 3123 summoner 14 item 3075 already reduce thim heal , and he have to be melee , i think he is fine right now , since it only heal u 2 much when u are really low hp

that's the problem ,he can do that to deny turret revenge kills, also Morello only inflicts grievous IF he's already at 33% or less.

rework trundle1 votes

His AA's deal 8+2 x lvl bonus magic damage. While below 50% HP, he also restores 8+2 x lvl HP. While below 25% HP, the healing is tripled to 24+6 x lvl HP.

His Q heals for a percentage of the damage dealt by the ability, not only from the AP scaling. Here's the damage from the ability : 120% AD (+ 90% AP) (+ 6 / 7 / 8 / 9 / 10% target's maximum health) And the healing : 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70%

The Leo Cat1 votes

Warwick is hard countered by a couple of really cheap items that people just don't ever buy when he's in the game.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Warwick is hard countered by a couple of really cheap items that people just don't ever buy when he's in the game.

Kinda hard to build for Grievous if you're AP and your only grievous wound item only works at 33% or less HP.

Escheton2 votes

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Kinda hard to build for Grievous if you're AP and your only grievous wound item only works at 33% or less HP.

Warwick is a dualer. You should not be stuck in an extended fight with him as an AP user that builds Morello to begin with. And 2v2 or 3v3 or 3v2 he can be put low enough for that.

Joxcab2 votes

So why are you fighting him in the first place by yourself?

Glîtchy1 votes

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So why are you fighting him in the first place by yourself?

let's see, WW jg, gets a speed boost when I'm at 50a5 or less, suppresses damage with his howl wind-up time, slows me with said howl, bites and cuts me off, explain how I'm supposed to escape that when he also can't be killed by turret and can bite while the howl charges up?

Joxcab1 votes

So if you're low enough you can't handle a dive, then just recall already. If you have to recall often, you're playing badly in lane against your opponent.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Joxcab1 votes

Ah yes, insults from the ignorant.

As a mage you have no excuse to be in his Q range.

Every mage save for perhaps Annie outranges him by a massive distance.

Warwick isn't a midlaner in the first place, and he can't dive you successfully unless you're low (without being absurdly fed).

Learn what you're talking about before you presume you can talk back next time, pal.

Glîtchy1 votes

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ZephyrDrake1 votes

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And speak with your mind instead of your ass next time, pal.

looks like someone has no arguments left that the only thing he can do is insult others... dude, if you are losing in 1v1 by a warwick as a midlaner you have way more problems than warwick being too strong.

Glîtchy1 votes

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looks like someone has no arguments left that the only thing he can do is insult others... dude, if you are losing in 1v1 by a warwick as a midlaner you have way more problems than warwick being too strong.

he was jg, once he gets on top of you and howls, you're finished.

Joxcab1 votes

I am though, that's why I'm destroying your pitifully lacking excuses of an argument.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Ah yes, insults from the ignorant.

As a mage you have no excuse to be in his Q range.

Every mage save for perhaps Annie outranges him by a massive distance.

Warwick isn't a midlaner in the first place, and he can't dive you successfully unless you're low (without being absurdly fed).

Learn what you're talking about before you presume you can talk back next time, pal.

you make a good point on everything EXCEPT "you have no excuse to be in Q range"

ww donest NEED to have you low.. he can activate his W for a speed boost as well. he also he as a pretty long rage ulti...

if your low and he is nearby.. your pretty much dead unless your significantly good at outplays or the WW really messes up.

this is coming from a lvl 6 warwick.

as a mage you should NEVER be trying to fight a WW... you should only ever be trying to get to a safe spot (like your team or a tower).

but saying "there is no excuse to be in Q range"

is disrespecting the warwick... there are PLENTY of ways to get in Q range as the player playing warwick...

about 80-95% you can avoid getting in Q range.. but if you are down a flash and your low.. and he is withing 3 screens of you... if you got away then ww messed up...

Kloqdq1 votes

No no no. You want a WW nerf? Make his Q no longer able to stop displacements. That would really hurt him. Other than that, his fine.

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