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Hayaishi38 votes

I think that lists sums up the most disgusting champions right now.

PICKLE RICK REEE19 votes

im surprised nobody talks about camille. If she's strong enough to fight you she leap 3 screens away and click R for free kill. If you're behind, just builds tank and do the same thing while jungler ganks and jungle kills you. There's no option to outplay despite her whole kit theoretically being balanced around "counterplay" options.

Sire Hippington2 votes

well, her ult should never have been a thing. such a massive lockdown tool might be okay on a support(though even then maybe a bit much), but on a strong duelist that can toplane and jungle and with heavy gapcloseing, it just translates to a 'you're dead' button...

PICKLE RICK REEE1 votes

"you cannot leave" ability shouldn't be on a champion that can 1v1 you

on a fucking support that can't fight back and is locked close range? sure

imagine any other fighter having an ult as disgusting as camille Renekton Nasus Fiora Illaoi Darius Yasuo to get a mental image; disgusts me

riot devs have brain damage

Kloak20 votes

This fucker too Graves

PICKLE RICK REEE14 votes

I hope to not see anybody argue that they're "top players for a reason". The skill margin in insignificant at this elo, they are vsing top players every game, and 70% of the time they beat top players with these champs.

DoktorKaiser9 votes

You are missing these 3 fucks :

Graves Pyke Kayn

PaffWasTaken7 votes

TFBlade.exe

Poske7 votes

Camille Akali Irelia Kaisa Jax

As a consistent high elo player who peeked chall multiple times

Cammile needs nerfs she is probably the best bruiser in game. This champion should also not be allowed to jungle, I doubt I have to explain why jungle Cammile is unhealthy for a game. Atm she can be flexed into jungle

Irelia is bassicly fine the fact that she is tier 2 in 3 different roles well. Whenever you make a champion minion reliant that happens (as seen with yasuo) From what I have experienced her worst lane is actually toplane since she cant outplay some statcheckers. She might need a mini nerf but nothing drastic.

Akali I dont feel confident to talk about akali. I played her only once, Didnt play against her more then 5 times. I would guess she is overtuned since she seems better then other assassins. I know that I felt stupid for picking Le blanc / Ekko when Akali seemed like a better ap assassin.

Kaisa is by far #1 the most op champion in game and has been for 4 months+

Jax is balanced from my experience. There is only 1 challenger jax on euw and few master jaxes. This is what every champion stats should look like Having said that he is challenger tier on lolalytics, how IDK (might be really fresh), if more then 5 players reach chall with jax on Euw he becomes a problem

  • He is kinda odd, he is definetly not a lane bully but at certain minute he can become one
  • He cant teamfight, so he relies on being delayed lane bully to splitpush and win.. I would rather have Trynda, Fiora in my team better splitters, can start bulying earlier, and fiora can somewhat teamfight

You want to add champions like Kennen, Jayce (for toplane), They dont seem to impressive on stats but they dominate tournaments

Jungle Top tiers

Eve, Kindred, Graves, perhaps gragas perhaps rengar

ADC top tiers

Kaisa, kaisa, Kaisa Draven, Varus, xayah

Mid top tiers

Taliyah (its not just jungle taliyah), Ryze (bad winrate due to plat elo doesnt matter), As holle

Support top tiers Tbh idk

Pyke seems like he has overtaken blitz by a margin (getting buffs for no reason) Lulu is still aids despite not having base stats Nami is to OP in non soloq/assassin games Janna is getting buffs for no fking reason

Generaly enchanters rule. People underestimate their poke they can easly match brands/zyras its just that they are played by not as good players, lots of Egirls bring the winrate down

Flashes1 votes

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As a consistent high elo player who peeked chall multiple times

Cammile needs nerfs she is probably the best bruiser in game. This champion should also not be allowed to jungle, I doubt I have to explain why jungle Cammile is unhealthy for a game. Atm she can be flexed into jungle

Irelia is bassicly fine the fact that she is tier 2 in 3 different roles well. Whenever you make a champion minion reliant that happens (as seen with yasuo) From what I have experienced her worst lane is actually toplane since she cant outplay some statcheckers. She might need a mini nerf but nothing drastic.

Akali I dont feel confident to talk about akali. I played her only once, Didnt play against her more then 5 times. I would guess she is overtuned since she seems better then other assassins. I know that I felt stupid for picking Le blanc / Ekko when Akali seemed like a better ap assassin.

Kaisa is by far #1 the most op champion in game and has been for 4 months+

Jax is balanced from my experience. There is only 1 challenger jax on euw and few master jaxes. This is what every champion stats should look like Having said that he is challenger tier on lolalytics, how IDK (might be really fresh), if more then 5 players reach chall with jax on Euw he becomes a problem

  • He is kinda odd, he is definetly not a lane bully but at certain minute he can become one

  • He cant teamfight, so he relies on being delayed lane bully to splitpush and win.. I would rather have Trynda, Fiora in my team better splitters, can start bulying earlier, and fiora can somewhat teamfight

You want to add champions like Kennen, Jayce (for toplane), They dont seem to impressive on stats but they dominate tournaments

Jungle Top tiers

Eve, Kindred, Graves, perhaps gragas perhaps rengar

ADC top tiers

Kaisa, kaisa, Kaisa Draven, Varus, xayah

Mid top tiers

Taliyah (its not just jungle taliyah), Ryze (bad winrate due to plat elo doesnt matter), As holle

Support top tiers Tbh idk

Pyke seems like he has overtaken blitz by a margin (getting buffs for no reason) Lulu is still aids despite not having base stats Nami is to OP in non soloq/assassin games Janna is getting buffs for no fking reason

Generaly enchanters rule. People underestimate their poke they can easly match brands/zyras its just that they are played by not as good players, lots of Egirls bring the winrate down

Really? Xayah is top tier rn?

AirKingNeo6 votes

jax has no competitive play though

Kloak18 votes

Just because he sees no competitive play does not mean he's not oppressive in SoloQ. Jax is insanely strong and counters over half the top lane roster. He's a Fighter with the survivability of a tank and damage of an assassin. He's too well rounded for everything. There's almost no bad scenario to pick Jax.

Thefrostyviking3 votes

Damage of an assassin isnt entirely correct, and he isnt as durable as a true tank like rammus, seju or cho.

His full combo just barely deals enough to kill squishies often, this with triforce and titanic.

Assassin like Zed? They overkill with 100´s of damage to spare, and they often do it faster.

PhearBunny5 votes

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Damage of an assassin isnt entirely correct, and he isnt as durable as a true tank like rammus, seju or cho.

His full combo just barely deals enough to kill squishies often, this with triforce and titanic.

Assassin like Zed? They overkill with 100´s of damage to spare, and they often do it faster.

youre wrong. Jax's Q+E+Titanic Hydra/Trinity force deals significantly more than enough to 1shot all squishies. Faster than any assassin in the game(I guess equal to a Rengar). It deals enough damage in 1 auto to 50% bruisers, but ayy luckily he is also one of the highest sustained dps champs in the game as well(while building bruiser) so that bruiser that he 50%'d is dead .7seconds later. And no, he is as tanky as pure tanks like Sej and Cho, only exception would be poppy. Jax is... Godtier assassin(While building bruiser) Godtier tank(while building bruiser) Godtier split pusher(while building bruiser) Godtier bruiser(while building bruiser)--atleast this one makes sense. Godtier tank buster(without a Black Cleaver or Botrk)--Makes no sense whatsoever. Godtier hyper carry(While building bruier)

Basically he is godtier at everything besides being a Mage, or an ADC. WHILE BUILDING BRUISER.

AirKingNeo1 votes

If he counters over half the top lane roster, then why isn't he picked competitively as even a counter pick?

BoilTheOil5 votes

Because lcs is pretty much just lockdown comps which fuck jax up

PICKLE RICK REEE2 votes

Because there's atleast 13.8 stuns on each team per professional match

Noor Sakata4 votes

You forgot to mention Graves

PICKLE RICK REEE3 votes

A few people used graves, but these were the most frequent between all of em

Jerry SeinfeId4 votes

out of the top 5 of every single one of your links there's only 2 people who play kai'sa one at 50% winrate and one at 58%. Taliyah sees alot more play with 63-82% winrate and only one person dropping under 70%.

but hey clearly kai'sa is completely busted and tali is fine.

Leetri2 votes

Boards back at it again with the mage bias. I'm a mage main, but damn the boards takes it to an entirely different level. Unless that mage is Ahri, apparently.

PICKLE RICK REEE1 votes

that's because only 2 of them are ADC players lmao

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

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A few people used graves, but these were the most frequent between all of em

PICKLE RICK REEE1 votes

graves isnt an adc

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

so you're admitting you cherry picked kai'sa and left out graves and taliyah just because she's an adc. I didn't check the top winrates of graves, and it's been 11 days by now, but taliyah was performing much better than kai'sa.

leaving out the champ with a higher playrate and a winrate being at both worst cases 13% higher and in both best cases 24% difference is kinda biased.

PICKLE RICK REEE1 votes

kaisa has 10x the playrate of taliyah she's picked or banned almost every single game and still maintains cancer stats

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

50% winrate isn't that high ma guy.

either way that's got nothing to do with the top players, you can't use an argument you never made as your defense.

in the top 5's of every region taliyah had at the time a higher pickrate than taliyah and massively higher winrates.

Sire Hippington2 votes

http://www.op.gg/statistics/champion/

you can addTaliyah to the list, 5th highest pickrate with near 60% win in challenger...i'm honestly supprised that no one sees her as an issue, yet she perfromes extremly well(better than nearly all of the above) in plat+ soloQ and also remains a staple for pro and challenger...

Also, looking at kirei, kah is comming in strong for jungle aswell especailly with the recent buffs...

As for poppy, she's not weak and actually counters all of the above exept for kaisa, so i'm not supprised to see her there...

kinda wish we head a leaderboard sorted by main role...

Vlada Cut1 votes

Out of that complete roaster they already tried gutting two. -_-

Minimac20001 votes

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Out of that complete roaster they already tried gutting two. -_-

Which two? Camille and poppy? Lol

Vlada Cut1 votes

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Which two? Camille and poppy? Lol

Poppy was compensate buffed with Q damage and ms nerf revert tho. Camille was gutted before season 8, and got an E nerf by 55 base ad few patches ago., Kai'Sa would've been more balanced than she is if they didn't buff her W ratio.

agac42341 votes

those players have good win% becuase they are good players lmao and these champions can carry games. u dont expect a janna to be rank 1 do you? these are all champions that can out play the oppenets in such a way that there team can follow. as someone that plays kayn i have 62% winrate with 87 games is it becuase kayn is op? no becuase i can carry with kayn and becuase i can help out my team and out pllay the enemy team. its just easyier to carry with those champions then someone like malp mundo ryze.

HungryAngry2SPP1 votes

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its just easyier to carry with those champions then someone like malp

Malphite item 3285 item 3089 etc. "You w0t?"

agac42341 votes

well he wont be that strong if he builds that. yes he can oneshot someone (which is cancer) but tahts it his like an assaasin only can oneshot nothing more

HungryAngry2SPP1 votes

Uhm...yes. That's the point of full AP Malph. One shotting 1 or more people (or just take >50% hp is hgood too) It's a quasi insta cast stun, aoe, and a lot of dmg. You decide who wins the teamfight

PICKLE RICK REEE1 votes

you're also not #1 kr vsing challenger players with a 62% winrate

agac42341 votes

yeah but its the same fucking thing just becuase they are kr challenger doesnt mean shit doesnt work there. they are btter then me so they should have more WR% if they didnt then they ouldnt be challenger.

PICKLE RICK REEE1 votes

If they were as good as you claim, or as reflected by their stats, they'd immediately be drafted to a team.

They're just abusing broken champs in solo queue while having diamond mechanics, they aren't good.

"hur dur outplay" jumps 3 screens away and clicks R Camille Kaisa if she's not banned, she's picked in any professional game

Xhaiden1 votes

Then there's EU NE with: Karthus Swain Heimerdinger

http://eune.op.gg/ranking/ladder/

Minimac20001 votes

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Then there's EU NE with: Karthus Swain Heimerdinger

http://eune.op.gg/ranking/ladder/

Wait, people play Karthus ?

Xhaiden1 votes

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Wait, people play Karthus ?

Ofc they do. In EU NE there's a Diamond 1 summoner who mains him with 72% win rate out of 203 games as Karthus. 10.2 / 6.1 / 8.2 KDA too.

http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=unalivenigelf

In U.S. you have a Master Karthus main with 598 games as Karthus.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=leepicmemerino

Karthus is really strong - but his sluggish mobility seems to be a big turn-off for many summoners - who tried to play him.

Minimac20001 votes

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Ofc they do. In EU NE there's a Diamond 1 summoner who mains him with 72% win rate out of 203 games as Karthus. 10.2 / 6.1 / 8.2 KDA too.

http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=unalivenigelf

In U.S. you have a Master Karthus main with 598 games as Karthus.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=leepicmemerino

Karthus is really strong - but his sluggish mobility seems to be a big turn-off for many summoners - who tried to play him.

Lol ik there are master karthi it was a joke, but yeah you have to be like 3000 iq to land a q on yas/irelia/anyone with 300 ms or bought boots lol. I can't do it for sure (I know karthi maxes e into these match ups but still)

Minimac20001 votes

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Ofc they do. In EU NE there's a Diamond 1 summoner who mains him with 72% win rate out of 203 games as Karthus. 10.2 / 6.1 / 8.2 KDA too.

http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=unalivenigelf

In U.S. you have a Master Karthus main with 598 games as Karthus.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=leepicmemerino

Karthus is really strong - but his sluggish mobility seems to be a big turn-off for many summoners - who tried to play him.

Also there's a plat who mains tank karthus... aqua something 33 I think.... but lets not ever speak of his existence again lol

Bob the Toastr1 votes

I would include Lucian in that list but honestly it's not his fault. Whenever crit ADCs are strong he is weak accordingly, and whenever crit ADCs get nerfed he rises to the top like he is now.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Or maybe it's the ten direct and indirect buffs

JAYYYYYYYYYYYYCE1 votes

Akali Camille Fizz Evelynn Irelia Khazix Kaisa Jax Lucian Jhin Zed Pyke Urgot Sion Graves

Are the champs that need nerfs right now

RightClick McGee1 votes

Me trynd me spin me win Tryndamere rip my winrate recently tho because these good for nothing top laners item 3070 item 3073

Ganked Your Girl1 votes

My opinion for fast ranking is to take Vi if you want easy climb it is obliviously ftp!!!

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