4 of the 5 top NA players in challenger have a consistent 60-70% winrate on

PICKLE RICK REEE·Sep 25, 2018·34 votes·10,660 views

among other balanced champs like new

just an observation

http://na.op.gg/ranking/ladder/ http://www.op.gg/ranking/ladder/ really all the ladders not just na lol

25 Comments

Ulquiorra0123Sep 25, 201823 votes

Ok, you do know 2 of the top 5 accounts are the same person, and he mains top lane? Zven is literally a pro ADC, so he should be smashing Solo Queue, and Astro doesn't just play camille, he plays all junglers.

You want to know the funniest part about this argument? 3 of the top 5 accounts have been there all season. That is before Jax became stupid, before Irelia rework, and Before Akali rework. How to you explain their success on the champions before their reworks? They are just the best top laners in NA. I can start posting profiles of people who are winning alot with champions that have a 40% win rate overall, should I do that and then we can gut them too? Almost everyone in challenger has multiple champions with above a 60% win rate. This argument is just so incredibly stupid.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=byebyee

This guy mains two champions who aren't even considered meta. Both of them 60% win rate and he is top 20.

Bμbble ButtSep 25, 20182 votes

I agree. TF Blade is an anomaly, though I will say Kai'sa is busted.

chipndip1Sep 25, 201814 votes

Repeat after me:

Akali is strong for Diamond+. For just about anyone under D5, she's a free win.

Also one of the guys you're referencing is a smurf of the same guy.

SociaI JusticeSep 25, 201814 votes

akali is broken as fuck anywhere where the guy playing her isnt completely braindead

Unstoppable MonkSep 25, 20183 votes

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akali is broken as fuck anywhere where the guy playing her isnt completely braindead

So we don't have to worry about Akali being broken, because there's nothing but completely braindead mids around. Thanks for confirming what Chips said.

chipndip1Sep 25, 20182 votes

Yeah Diamond+

XxDRAGONsAK47xXSep 25, 20184 votes

BUT RIOT CANT NERF THEM BECAUSE PRO PLAYERS WOULD HAVE TO ADAPT FOR WORLDS :(

Fucking stupid ass excuse...

Stray KatSep 25, 20184 votes

I mean, S Diana 2 was running a 70% winrate with Diana all the way to challenger. What's your point? Great players carry great winrates.

Silly NeekoSep 25, 20183 votes

She could be being picked to play against a certain champ.... or it could be because they are the top players for a reason?

PICKLE RICK REEESep 26, 20182 votes

is it a coincidence that almost every "top player" is choosing those champions in particular?

Slim GragasSep 25, 20183 votes

Graves

ZephyrDrakeSep 25, 20182 votes

ok... now how many games have they played on those champions? winning for instance 3 out of the last 4 games isn't really impressive all things considered vs 100 out of the last 130 games

Ralik098Sep 25, 20182 votes

Old Irelia and Akali were so much better for the game. Stop overloading champions that don't need reworks.

ankoanko19Sep 25, 20181 votes

irelia was pretty outdated and so was akali. Whenever they were slightly good boards screeched with ''REEEEEE POINT & CLICK STUN DELET THIS!''

Ralik098Sep 26, 20182 votes

And now they screech even worse as you can see. Old Irelia and Akali never had high banrates even anywhere remotely close to what they do right now.

ankoanko19Sep 26, 20181 votes

Actually no, in S5 people complained about Irelia far more than what they do now despite her being a lot better now.

Ralik098Nov 6, 20181 votes

Actually yes, Old Irelia never had a banrate even remotely close to what it is now. She was never anywhere near as toxic for the game as the new one. She wasn't complained about like she is now with people regularly sending posts to the front page of these boards asking for nerfs.

ankoanko19Nov 6, 20181 votes

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Actually yes, Old Irelia never had a banrate even remotely close to what it is now. She was never anywhere near as toxic for the game as the new one. She wasn't complained about like she is now with people regularly sending posts to the front page of these boards asking for nerfs.

In patch 6.11, her banrate skyrocketed to 70%. Of course she has had a higher br when she was super ultra op tier but that got changed. But tbh, wont argue. I miss old Irelia, I would rather have old Irelia than this new Irelia since it never works.

MarothennanSep 25, 20181 votes

Who would have imagined?

Summonah12369Sep 25, 20181 votes

Meanwhile it's hip hop lose win lose win... for me.

ForFoxSakesSep 25, 20181 votes

Yet you ignore the fact that they have the same person playing multiple accounts

RedCycloneSep 25, 20181 votes

I WANT TO TARGET BAN MY LANE

NOT REMOVE ALL THE BULLSHIT FROM TOPLANE

making it so a handful of champions can solo carry the game because they have retarded scaling and amazing early games was not the fix anyone was asking for in toplane

SaezioSep 25, 20181 votes

LUL its NA bro. If you wanna come with hard stats on us show us some KR players

PICKLE RICK REEESep 26, 20181 votes

http://www.op.gg/ranking/ladder/

also all camille akali and irelia

NaalithSep 25, 20181 votes

Now I hate lots of those characters, but I want them nerfed because they shit on people in every elo. If someone gets to the top of the ladder they'll always have a high winrate. I was placed on G5 last season and had like an 80% Kayn winrate until I hit plat and stopped playing ranked, these people are so good they don't have very many enemies who can beat them and average out their winrates.