You boast about being the most played game in the world. If that were the case, we should be able to block at least up to 10 people so we never get them again on our team. I hate dealing with the same negative, toxic players 2-3 games in a row and not being able to do anything.
Oh, and those saying "Wait a few minutes" etc etc, theres been times where I wait 20-30 minutes and still get the same people.
Noctius2819 votesproblem is
blocking people doesnt just affect you
you blocking someone may cause up to 8 other people having to wait longer for a game just because you don't want to play with someone
And besides what if that guy is premade with another? Are both of them blocked from playing with you? Or are you put in a lower Queue because of you block?
What if a friend invites you to a team then he invites that guy? Is he forbidden to invite him? Are you expelled from the lobby?
It's not as easy as "Herp derp I have the right to block people so riot should do what I say cuz I know best"
If you don't want to play with them so badly then dodge
Neo Cyrus3 votesThere are so many players that the wait time would hardly be affected aside from high Elo, which literally over 99% of players are not in. That's an actual statistic. Look it up on LoLSummoners if you don't believe me.
Bard Is Broken7 votesproblem is
blocking people doesnt just affect you
you blocking someone may cause up to 8 other people having to wait longer for a game just because you don't want to play with someone
And besides what if that guy is premade with another? Are both of them blocked from playing with you? Or are you put in a lower Queue because of you block?
What if a friend invites you to a team then he invites that guy? Is he forbidden to invite him? Are you expelled from the lobby?
It's not as easy as "Herp derp I have the right to block people so riot should do what I say cuz I know best"
If you don't want to play with them so badly then dodge
Welcome to league. If someone is trolling, dodge and you're punished.
Noctius282 votesWelcome to league. If someone is trolling, dodge and you're punished.
Or just play and try to carry ignoring the troll maybe?
Iron IV dude4 votesNah, better loose the 3 lp. Tried it once, he was busy telling the team all the mistakes i did last game, died while writing, focused on everything i did. Just dodge and get punished for it. Kinda sad, but you cannot change it atm.
Getting punished for being a teamplayer, you can feel like a real hero!
Kolfin1 votesDon't dodge then.
Iron IV dude3 votesproblem is
blocking people doesnt just affect you
you blocking someone may cause up to 8 other people having to wait longer for a game just because you don't want to play with someone
What? They just end up in the enemy team, and your team gets the guy/s that are/is on their/his/her level. Just because they are toxic last game, they do not have to be bad. But because they were toxic in your game, your team play WILL be bad.
And besides what if that guy is premade with another? Are both of them blocked from playing with you?
If they play together, yes ofc, if not, no ofc not.
Or are you put in a lower Queue because of you block?
What if a friend invites you to a team then he invites that guy? Is he forbidden to invite him? Are you expelled from the lobby?
Warning message "You are in a team with someone, you blocked. Are you sure to play?" and proceed
It's not as easy as "Herp derp I have the right to block people so riot should do what I say cuz I know best"
It's not as easy as "Herp derp, I have the right to block peoples ideas, so riot should never do something new that someone say cuz I know best"
If you don't want to play with them so badly then dodge
And get punished for wanting teamplay. I do not want to never ever play with them again, just my next 5 rounds i do not want him in my team. OFC you can mess around "DOH you blocked EVERYONE your last 5 games", then I have to wait longer, that would be ok and kinda fair. The thing with the invitation was a good argument tho, the rest was just herp derp tbh, you can do better. I can do better too, believe me! :)
ChaoticPinecone3 votesso now you have a system that has a bunch of exceptions: 1 person gets blocked unless they queue up with someone else or multiple people, then everyone gets blocked. But this is overridden if they are invited, in which you get a warning. But thats overridden in high elo, where queue times would get too long, or if you blocked everyone in your last 5 games. Oh - and make sure that you arent blocking all players you feel are bad, just to artificially inflate your Elo. Now apply this to the 9 other people you have to play with.
You can see how this gets complicated pretty quick. Its a lot simpler and less abusable to just say 'no blocking players'.
Iron IV dude3 votesI like the way you tell your arguments, no offence found here. But I allready give up this point. Seems we are struck in teams, we would never join in rl, and get punished if we decline against it and leaving it. It's kind of bad game design, but I guess there is nothing we can do about it, as neither I nor someone else can come up with a good replace for it.
Thx for the nice constructive text, i'll approach it!
(Me engrish not gud :/ )
Noctius281 votesWhat? They just end up in the enemy team, and your team gets the guy/s that are/is on their/his/her level. Just because they are toxic last game, they do not have to be bad. But because they were toxic in your game, your team play WILL be bad.
If they play together, yes ofc, if not, no ofc not.
Warning message "You are in a team with someone, you blocked. Are you sure to play?" and proceed
It's not as easy as "Herp derp, I have the right to block peoples ideas, so riot should never do something new that someone say cuz I know best"
And get punished for wanting teamplay. I do not want to never ever play with them again, just my next 5 rounds i do not want him in my team. OFC you can mess around "DOH you blocked EVERYONE your last 5 games", then I have to wait longer, that would be ok and kinda fair. The thing with the invitation was a good argument tho, the rest was just herp derp tbh, you can do better. I can do better too, believe me! :)
"You boast about being the most played game in the world. If that were the case, we should be able to block at least up to 10 people so we never get them again on our team"
Does this not sound like "Hey I demand this be a thing because I know best" to you? Because it sounds like stupid kid demands to me, who think Riot owes them something
And your solutions have ifs beyond ifs beyond ifs, that is not viable for the company to do, plus apply said limitations of players to 9 other people and the slow between games skyrockets
Blocking is not viable in this type of game, because it damages everybody
Plus it can be abused to only play with better players
If I sounded like a douche I apologize but I have a tendency to get on other peoples level, if they act childish I have the bad habit of doing the same =/
Iron IV dude1 votesSee, you can do aaaaa lot better :) Yes you kinda sounded like a douche, but I guess you have the same reason as I have, getting on other people levels and just copy cat them, to show them how douche it sounds.
My lost brother I guess :o
Kazaashi2 votesWhat? They just end up in the enemy team, and your team gets the guy/s that are/is on their/his/her level. Just because they are toxic last game, they do not have to be bad. But because they were toxic in your game, your team play WILL be bad.
If they play together, yes ofc, if not, no ofc not.
Warning message "You are in a team with someone, you blocked. Are you sure to play?" and proceed
It's not as easy as "Herp derp, I have the right to block peoples ideas, so riot should never do something new that someone say cuz I know best"
And get punished for wanting teamplay. I do not want to never ever play with them again, just my next 5 rounds i do not want him in my team. OFC you can mess around "DOH you blocked EVERYONE your last 5 games", then I have to wait longer, that would be ok and kinda fair. The thing with the invitation was a good argument tho, the rest was just herp derp tbh, you can do better. I can do better too, believe me! :)
Trust me, I design systems like this for a living. It's not as easy to do as you think.
Also, even though it would only affect 1% of the people who play LoL, the Plat, Diamond, and Challenger Rankings would have insanely long queue time, super unbalanced games due to that, and people would exploit it. If you don't like your group, dodge. It only costs 5-15 mins of your time and 3 LP if its ranked. You could also prolly not be so judgemental of people, if you expect them to troll, that is all you will see. I don't really have a problem with people very often and I'm in B1.
Iron IV dude2 voteshttps://youtu.be/bOhrGs4Pngc?t=4m58s
Still, why do I have to get punished when someone else just trolls hard? I know, implementing a system that avoids it is like really hard, but... it's just not good the way it is now.
Kazaashi1 voteshttps://youtu.be/bOhrGs4Pngc?t=4m58s
Still, why do I have to get punished when someone else just trolls hard? I know, implementing a system that avoids it is like really hard, but... it's just not good the way it is now.
Because that I why the person trolls. To F*** with your head. Is 30 mins of your time so precious that you are going to let someone affect you so much? (This is coming from someone who works 40+ hours a week and has a Fiance on disability) If that is so, maybe you need to look up a thing called "Tilt".
I've been playing internet video games for as long as they have been around, and the trollers in LoL are no different than any other game I've ever played.
Iron IV dude1 votesWell, I only play video games since 20 years, got a 40h fulltime job as well. Even got a child (Dunno why this is important for the discussion but well.. ok). LoL is the first MOBA for me, played alot of strategy games like w3, aoe and some mmos online, never had so much trouble with trolls. Might be just me tho. Bu yes, 30 minutes of my time are just NOT free to spend for some trolls. I just dodge the Q, might have to wait 5 minutes, but i can go and get me a tea and play the next one, not having to fake my "enjoyable" trollgame. Else I would getting punished for being afk. Still, I get punished for someone else causing trouble loosing some LP (not like it affects the MMR, still, does not look cool. It is just loose/loose for me and win/win for the troll. That's like someone throws a glassbottle against my head, it breaks and I have to pay for the bottle. Doesn't matter if im able to dodge the bottle, would only save me from some headache.
It is fine, that you are ready to spend 20-40 minutes time on something that is all but neither fun nor worthy, I do not. But well, once there is a "Teambuilder"-ranked, the amount of these kind of troll should fall of at least.
Kazaashi1 votesWell, I only play video games since 20 years, got a 40h fulltime job as well. Even got a child (Dunno why this is important for the discussion but well.. ok). LoL is the first MOBA for me, played alot of strategy games like w3, aoe and some mmos online, never had so much trouble with trolls. Might be just me tho.
I have really only seen about 4 legit trolls in my 4 years of playing LoL. I've won 50% of those games because I was able to get my team to use the troll as a distraction for the other team.
In my opinion, people who see trolls are looking for them and usually end up doing it to themselves.
Bu yes, 30 minutes of my time are just NOT free to spend for some trolls. I just dodge the Q, might have to wait 5 minutes, but i can go and get me a tea and play the next one, not having to fake my "enjoyable" trollgame. Else I would getting punished for being afk. Still, I get punished for someone else causing trouble loosing some LP (not like it affects the MMR, still, does not look cool. It is just loose/loose for me and win/win for the troll.
Actually, if you look at the statistics, the other team is more likely to get a troll. So if you play enough games, it balances out once you play enough games (200-500). It's only a lose/lose if you want to look at it that way.
That's like someone throws a glassbottle against my head, it breaks and I have to pay for the bottle. Doesn't matter if im able to dodge the bottle, would only save me from some headache.
You can't really play the victim card if you watched someone hit you in the head with a bottle. Sucks that it happened, though.
It is fine, that you are ready to spend 20-40 minutes time on something that is all but neither fun nor worthy, I do not.
I'm not saying that I want a Troll. I'm just saying I will make the best of a situation. I also learned a long time ago to not let people like trolls affect me. They are like traffic, just an annoying part of driving in the city.
But well, once there is a "Teambuilder"-ranked, the amount of these kind of troll should fall of at least.
Yea, I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
Queue's supp
"Mid or Feed"
Dragfin3 votesproblem is
blocking people doesnt just affect you
you blocking someone may cause up to 8 other people having to wait longer for a game just because you don't want to play with someone
And besides what if that guy is premade with another? Are both of them blocked from playing with you? Or are you put in a lower Queue because of you block?
What if a friend invites you to a team then he invites that guy? Is he forbidden to invite him? Are you expelled from the lobby?
It's not as easy as "Herp derp I have the right to block people so riot should do what I say cuz I know best"
If you don't want to play with them so badly then dodge
Long term effects of blocking makes all your arguments BS. Eventually blocking will fix peoples attitudes when they themselves notice they are waiting a long time for a game because they want to act like a dumbass.
For the short term I will tolerate longer ques because dumbasses are blocked. I don't see that as being a huge problem though because I never have to wait very long for a game in the first place.
Idiots are already making life difficult for the player base. I would much rather be able to do something about it then just have to tolerate it or dodge.
Noctius282 votesLong term effects of blocking makes all your arguments BS. Eventually blocking will fix peoples attitudes when they themselves notice they are waiting a long time for a game because they want to act like a dumbass.
For the short term I will tolerate longer ques because dumbasses are blocked. I don't see that as being a huge problem though because I never have to wait very long for a game in the first place.
Idiots are already making life difficult for the player base. I would much rather be able to do something about it then just have to tolerate it or dodge.
Yes because reports and honors and end of year gifts for good behaviour have fixed all the problems in league right?
And while YOU might be fine with longer waits, other players might not, and, as riot should, they are not gonna risk that for a couple of angry guys
And now you are talking about using block not to avoid trolls or ragers but to avoid Unskilled players Exactly the kind of thing people would abuse in the system to only play with better players Those unskilled players have just as much right to play as you
Dragfin2 votesYes because reports and honors and end of year gifts for good behaviour have fixed all the problems in league right?
And while YOU might be fine with longer waits, other players might not, and, as riot should, they are not gonna risk that for a couple of angry guys
And now you are talking about using block not to avoid trolls or ragers but to avoid Unskilled players Exactly the kind of thing people would abuse in the system to only play with better players Those unskilled players have just as much right to play as you
People who would rather let things go and not fix them are the reason the world is the way it is right now and exactly the way our children are raised today. This passive BS is a huge part of the reason our kids today are the dumbest kids in history. Don't believe it? Go to Wikipedia and look up education. Why would people work to improve at anything when you have dumbshit parents out there always letting the problems slide and never fix them? Oh well you tried so that's enough and that's that and in the end you get what we got now in all areas of life.
I am looking at the big picture because my brain can process all of it. It is obvious yours can't. You assume things with zero logic. Your thinking is not your fault though. It's obvious you had parents that raised you exactly like this. I feel sorry for you and those like you.
Noctius282 votesPeople who would rather let things go and not fix them are the reason the world is the way it is right now and exactly the way our children are raised today. This passive BS is a huge part of the reason our kids today are the dumbest kids in history. Don't believe it? Go to Wikipedia and look up education. Why would people work to improve at anything when you have dumbshit parents out there always letting the problems slide and never fix them? Oh well you tried so that's enough and that's that and in the end you get what we got now in all areas of life.
I am looking at the big picture because my brain can process all of it. It is obvious yours can't. You assume things with zero logic. Your thinking is not your fault though. It's obvious you had parents that raised you exactly like this. I feel sorry for you and those like you.
Jesus you have issues dude XD Try to chill a bit a turn down that God complex a bit and you'll be much happier We are talking about refusing to play with people online not starving children in Africa
You really think in a social game like this that refusing to play with people who may not be as skilled as you is a good thing?
Lack of communication is like THE number 1 reason this game has trolls and ragers and flamers
Just last game I arrived late in champ selection and called bot, since no one said no I took Kalista after the game started while going to bot a guy said "Hey me and Sivir called premade bot" Bet you are the type of person that at this time would scream "Why the fuck didnt you say anything is champ select then?" I just said "Oh! I didn't see it, I'll try to go mid then" They were nice and thanked me and promised to help in mid if I had trouble, I avoided a stupid argument simply by letting it go, no need for wars or stupid rules or blocks Just talking
Yet you take everything like it's freakin World War 2 in a concentration Camp and feel the need for rules that would do more harm than good when everything could be solved with talking
Dragfin2 votesJesus you have issues dude XD Try to chill a bit a turn down that God complex a bit and you'll be much happier We are talking about refusing to play with people online not starving children in Africa
You really think in a social game like this that refusing to play with people who may not be as skilled as you is a good thing?
Lack of communication is like THE number 1 reason this game has trolls and ragers and flamers
Just last game I arrived late in champ selection and called bot, since no one said no I took Kalista after the game started while going to bot a guy said "Hey me and Sivir called premade bot" Bet you are the type of person that at this time would scream "Why the fuck didnt you say anything is champ select then?" I just said "Oh! I didn't see it, I'll try to go mid then" They were nice and thanked me and promised to help in mid if I had trouble, I avoided a stupid argument simply by letting it go, no need for wars or stupid rules or blocks Just talking
Yet you take everything like it's freakin World War 2 in a concentration Camp and feel the need for rules that would do more harm than good when everything could be solved with talking
Really dude? Your example refers to exactly what I said people don't do. You two worked it out. How often does that happen in league? Not very. You two didn't let it go and fixed it. It's exactly what I was talking about yet you rip me up because you're dumb as a box of rocks apparently. Stupidest kids in history? Check.
Noctius282 votesReally dude? Your example refers to exactly what I said people don't do. You two worked it out. How often does that happen in league? Not very. You two didn't let it go and fixed it. It's exactly what I was talking about yet you rip me up because you're dumb as a box of rocks apparently. Stupidest kids in history? Check.
I love talking to you dude You hate the world so much it's hilarious XD I let it go in that case, I let go of my pride of the lane I wanted and just played but whatevs you wanna hate everyone and everything it's up to you Have fun Honey Bunny ^^
Dragfin2 votesI love talking to you dude You hate the world so much it's hilarious XD I let it go in that case, I let go of my pride of the lane I wanted and just played but whatevs you wanna hate everyone and everything it's up to you Have fun Honey Bunny ^^
Aww warts on human kind who think they are cute...
People like you never get it!
Dalanin1 votesWhy is he being forced to play with The Negative behaviour team mates?, or Enemies
SoMNia2 votesOR...you could simply be forced to wait longer in queue yourself while the system finds you a game that doesn't violate your block. Here's a game. Is there a team with 4 players you haven't blocked? Yes? Great. In you go. No? Too bad for you. Keep waiting. It might even simplify things, since it could ONLY check games with 4 players on a team (adding you to a smaller party could prevent someone else from being matched because you blocked them, so that's a no-go). Of course, I'm assuming you'd block someone because you don't want them on your team, and their being on the enemy team wouldn't be a problem. Blocking people because you don't want to play against them definitely shouldn't be allowed.
In this case, if you've blocked so many people that matchmaking can't find you a game, that becomes your problem, and only yours. Granted, the glaring issue is that if enough people even used the blocking feature, no team would ever reach 4 players and become eligible for them to join. Then, it would get slightly more complicated, but not much. You can still match people who have blocked with other people who have blocked, but not blocked each other. Blocking means you get matched late, in any case.
TheMoonMan2 votesthis point of view is retarded. if the game has millions of active players, then he should be able to find a group with somebody else because he does not want to play with somebody toxic, thats not unreasonable.
Noctius281 votes[{quoted}](name=Michael Holmes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zs1MGU7k,comment-id=00000006,timestamp=2015-07-03T00:24:57.671+0000)
this point of view is retarded. if the game has millions of active players, then he should be able to find a group with somebody else because he does not want to play with somebody toxic, thats not unreasonable.
You are assuming said player is the only one that has blocked people Add 9 other people with blocks
and most times you don't have millions of players at the same time, in the same level, in the same modes
And in my view blocking someone from playing IN your team exclusively is bullshit, Blocking from your team only, knowing he has the same gaming hours as you, means you are always forcing that player on the other team, meaning that if he IS a troll or feeder that you are gaining an advantage for your team by forcing on the enemy the worse player
And that is not fair
A block is to block that person from playing with you, be it in your team and enemies, because he will interact with you regardless if he is in the other team
Neo Cyrus7 votesIt's truly mind-boggling that they don't implement this, at least for the vast majority. By that I mean it wouldn't work at very high Elo since there are too few players, then again maybe it should even be implemented there since there are those who troll all the time the time like Fabbbyyy and somehow haven't been banned after years.
His trolling pattern can be predicted like clockwork, and everyone in high Elo just deals with it. If he could be blocked he could never get a game started, as he deserves, aside from a permanent ban.
Just a quick Google search resulted in this as the first entry: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3632853&page=1
That was in 2013, and he's still trolling all the time. Good job Rito.
warpenguin5553 votesya blocked players shouldnt show up on our teams, its pretty stupid they can
Çôdą3 votesI just think there should be an option to "Hide" another player which would change their name to something random (For you only) and automatically mute them in game.
Edit: It should also block them from messaging you or adding you.
TomA3X1 votesThat would mean that in higher elo, you could block out the good players so that you don't have to play against them.
TheMoonMan2 votesin theory, everybody in your elo is just as good as you.. thus the point of elo. So blocking out all the "Good people" aka the people your elo, you will get no q's and be forced to clean your list.
TomA3X2 votesWe all know that isn't true. What I mean is, if you know certain people are really really good, or main champions that counter your own picks, then you can block them.
Silents4291 votesIf that were the case
What the hell is that suppose to mean? It IS the most played game right now?
Elizasleyn1 votesWon't happen because of reasons already mentioned, but if you played a game and there were people that you don't want to queue up with, just wait 2 minutes before joining the queue again and it's likely you won't get matched up with him again.
Rueian1 votesDoes no one else understand how this kind of system would also heavily skew ranked? What if you are the top player, and you just block every single person in challenger?
Not only to mention the more people block the harder the system has to work to match players.
XxxLumberJackxxX1 votesThis is due to higher elos where the player pool is smaller. There you go. move along.
Sasogwa1 votesIt's also very problematic for the very high elo people where they already have long queues because a very low amount of players are that high ranked : this could pretty much make the 10 min queues they have into several hours/days queue. And that's not thinkable.
