When is Hecarim going to be looked at?

Ben SwoIo··2 votes·638 views

Nerfed, toned down, adjusted, whatever you wanna call it. Tired of having to worry about him along with all the other champs that need to be banned. Pretty lame that he just builds tri for damage then the rest tank which still allows him to take people out pretty easily. Does Riot plan to work on him soon?

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Elite4Runner2 votes

Yeah Riot!

Why do you allow champions to be able to do what they are meant to do?

Ben Sharpio1 votes

youre telling me hecarim was designed to brainlessly run into people and deal all of their health? yeah, ok

Elite4Runner1 votes

.... yes. ... that is what I'm telling you...

He is designed to RUN into people and deal a lot of damage.

He gains damage based on his movement speed.

Two of his abilities temporarily give him a massive boost in movement speed.

He is a diving jungle champion. He needs to be able to deal a lot of burst damage to be effective.

Maybe he isn't meant to be AS strong, but what he does, is what he is meant to do.

Teémò3 votes

I don't have experience as hecarim, but plenty of old poppy. She sacrificed plenty of jungle clear/ lane dominance. So she could gank under tower. Well still offering plenty of counter play for the enemy players with cc, zhongya etc. Her E like today is still a needed push into a wal and plenty of champs could counter it whether ezreal blink, or vayne condemn, flash. To have an ability you can just ult in and fear them into moving away from tower well getting shields from damage and high movement speed to get out well. I don't see any challenge in what the hecarim does compared to what old poppy had to endure to accomplish the same goal. There's no high skill cap in him, just over powered potential he shouldn't have.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

you know minus her essentially invulnerability ult.

Teémò1 votes

she wasn't invulnerable to the person she ult'd and u gotta chase them down to even click to ult them. and needed to chase the enemy down.with the only cc being her E. miss your E you only have an auto Q to damage them with and chase with auto's she can't hit multiple people. she couldnt 100-0 you unless she went full ap and was already fed. which she would have a lot less money to buy gear. and even then " she needed to E you in the wall" like come on and except the fact that he's over tuned like khazix damage.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

It was incredibly easy to get into position and get a stun of before you used your ult. You could hit you re and ult before you collided for the stun or not hit it if it wasn't going to stun. you could stun on towers, so.... enemy adc slightly out of step while you're sieging? e and R ftw

Teémò1 votes

The 40% damage increase wouldn't apply, and if you read what I wrote before replying to me You'd see how easy it is to block her heroic charge. So unless your already a teemo away from them and a wall it ain't gonna work out. Your saying the adc would stay under tower and let you go ham at them. heck no. Soraka'd be spaming heal on ezreal anyways.

Ben SwoIo1 votes

Oh really? Like how Zed is an assassin but people complained about him deleting people? Same for Rengar, Leblanc, ect. But it's what they're supposed to do, right? Using your logic, why tone them down if they're doing what they're supposed to do?

Elite4Runner1 votes

I suppose I didn't direct my argument to the specific points of your OP that I don't agree with. That would be my mistake.

Nerfed, toned down, adjusted, whatever you wanna call it.

Sure, as I said in my response to the other person who has replied to this comment, he may not need to be AS strong.

Tired of having to worry about him along with all the other champs that need to be banned. Pretty lame that he just builds tri for damage then the rest tank which still allows him to take people out pretty easily.

You should have to worry about him, and it is healthy for there to be more "ban-worthy" champions than there are bans. Otherwise you would simply ban all of the strong champions and have a wet noodle fight.

Again, he is a diver. He has to engage, make a pick with his own burst and cc, then survive long enough for his teammates to follow up.

He is not an assassin because he is tanky. He absorbs damage and sustains through the fight instead of trying to escape before he gets blown up.

As for the others you mentioned, they may have been strong for their role, just as Hecarim may be, but they all still do what they are meant to do.

Dynikus2 votes

What do you mean? I look at Hecarim every game, either as a banned champion, or as he's killing me. Kappa

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

probably when he's actually a problem

Ben SwoIo1 votes

Oh right. He's just being banned a lot because of his in-effectiveness. My bad.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

Just tell me. If Hecarim didn't exist what champion would this thread be about?

Ben SwoIo1 votes

Hecarim

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

my point is, if it wasn't hecarim you're whining bout itd be someone else.

Ben SwoIo1 votes

Why is it considered whining when you call the champ for what it is? Are we supposed to just sit back and accept whatever is thrown out there so we don't "whine"? There's a set of strong champs right now and everyone knows who they are. People ban the same champs every match for a reason. It's not whining. But if it bothers you, here's an idea. Don't click on the thread! You haven't added anything constructive anyway.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

Sure. But Hecarim isn't one of them. It's like when people circle jerk about Lee Sin, Zed, Yasuo... only you don't have quite the same numbers. Just the baseless complaints.

Ben SwoIo1 votes

I don't know what you've been playing, but Hecarim IS one of them. Hecarim LeeSin Rengar Khazix Vi Zac Pretty much all you will see now. Might get a random jungler here and there, but I would bet some good money on seeing those champs in pretty much every match.

Cocho1 votes

You're telling me you don't enjoy seeing 2 of LeeSin Hecarim Vi Rengar Khazix Zac everygame?

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