How many fuckign ways are you going to fuck him over? like ffs he has mana issues, you gutted his E, gutted his w, gutted his q, and now fucked his r. Are you fuckign kidding me? Fuckign undo them. You fuckign have veigar 1 hitting people, you have zed broken to all fuck, but your fucking nerfing Malzhar again? ffs do any of you at riot have a clue.
z63XnLCMwX7 votesYou're angry a 55.6% win rate champion get a minor nerf? I'm angry too. They should've gut his E as well.
Bultz1 votesYou're angry a 55.6% win rate champion get a minor nerf? I'm angry too. They should've gut his E as well.
Minor? they have been gutting him since the mage rework. Every single skill has been sent to shit.
4Shot Bot1 votesYou got your wish are you happy now. Yi got buffed when he didn't need it now and malzahar is now one of the weakest champs.
Horse Grenades5 votesMalzahar needed to be gutted and nerfed to high hell. Like.. he can literally farm a wave and afk
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Malzahar needed to be gutted and nerfed to high hell. Like.. he can literally farm a wave and afk
he can farm afk, while veigar does 1800 damage with one spell.....makes sense.
Śhunpo4 voteshe can farm afk, while veigar does 1800 damage with one spell.....makes sense.
Veigar actually needs to hit a spell, Malzahar has a targeted waveclear spell lmao.
Bultz2 votesVeigar actually needs to hit a spell, Malzahar has a targeted waveclear spell lmao.
Veigar hits 1800 damage after stacking and his wave is auto lock. It's not that hard. Killing champions in 1 hit and farming easily are not equal.
Śhunpo2 votesVeigar hits 1800 damage after stacking and his wave is auto lock. It's not that hard. Killing champions in 1 hit and farming easily are not equal.
After stacking, there's the problem.
Also his Q can only hit 2 targets and it's usually on a 3-4 second CD at later levels meaning you don't clear all that fast.
HalcyonDweller2 votesVeigar hits 1800 damage after stacking and his wave is auto lock. It's not that hard. Killing champions in 1 hit and farming easily are not equal.
You say this as if it is hard for Malzahar to kill champions. It's not, and there's not much counterplay to getting point and clicked on.
If you want Malzahar to be made stronger you had better ask for Riot to get rid of the point and click first. As long as it remains he will inherently be too strong and will be forced to have lower numbers and other things to make up for the ease with which he can fuck over his opponent without them having anything they can do about it.
Eedat4 votesYou fuckign have veigar 1 hitting people, you have zed broken to all fuck,
Neither of those champs were nearly as strong as Malz lol. It's funny how you mention Zed when Malz hard counters him
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesGood. About damn time his point-&-clicks gets some attention.
Colgate Gator2 votesAll I ready from OP's post was fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
Malix Farwin2 votesYou are right OP they are outrageous. He should of been nerfed harder.
Śhunpo1 votesHe's arguably the best mid lane champ in the game.....don't try to say that he's bad.
He doesn't have mana issues and his damage is fucking obnoxious. 1 E usually chunks me for 1/2 my HP once he has 2-3 items and if he Qs me during this time I just die due to the reset of his E (which is a dumb mechanic). Even if I'm not dead that's excluding THE most broken part of his kit being his ult. The amount of damage his ult outputs is nutty and the fact that you need to pay 1300 gold for a pseudo counter to the ult is just silly considering QSS doesn't even stop the damage lmao. Plus, most AP champs don't want QSS, and for some reason Cleanse never worked against suppressions.
He's a broken champion right now and that's that. [sg-ahri-3]
Bultz1 votesHe's arguably the best mid lane champ in the game.....don't try to say that he's bad.
lol since when was he the best? Ahri has had a 50%+ win rate for 7 fucking seasons.
He doesn't have mana issues and his damage is fucking obnoxious. 1 E usually chunks me for 1/2 my HP once he has 2-3 items and if he Qs me during this time I just die due to the reset of his E (which is a dumb mechanic). Even if I'm not dead that's excluding THE most broken part of his kit being his ult. The amount of damage his ult outputs is nutty and the fact that you need to pay 1300 gold for a pseudo counter to the ult is just silly considering QSS doesn't even stop the damage lmao.
Wtf he has huge mana issue are u mental? him hurting u with 3 items isn't relevant as anyone who has a lot of items will do damage wtf. As for his ult and e u literally buy adaptive helm and hes countered fully. dufuq u mean.
Plus, most AP champs don't want QSS, and for some reason Cleanse never worked against suppressions.
He's a broken champion right now and that's that. [sg-ahri-3]
in your dreams maybe.
Śhunpo1 voteslol since when was he the best? Ahri has had a 50%+ win rate for 7 fucking seasons.
Wtf he has huge mana issue are u mental? him hurting u with 3 items isn't relevant as anyone who has a lot of items will do damage wtf. As for his ult and e u literally buy adaptive helm and hes countered fully. dufuq u mean.
in your dreams maybe.
Which mage builds adaptive helm 2nd-4th item?
Also Ahri really doesn't matter at this point considering she's just fine right now, albeit Riot really screwed the pooch in leaving her overpowered for many seasons.
He DOES NOT have mana issues, read his E ability. It actually lets you gain mana by casting it lmao, so the outcome is beneficial for Malz.
Bultz2 votesWhich mage builds adaptive helm 2nd-4th item?
Anyone who wants to.
Also Ahri really doesn't matter at this point considering she's just fine right now, albeit Riot really screwed the pooch in leaving her overpowered for many seasons.
she's not fine and never has been. She's spammy and does a load of damage in seconds. No one asked them to rework Malzahar or to screw him over in every patch since his rework.
He DOES NOT have mana issues, read his E ability. It actually lets you gain mana by casting it lmao, so the outcome is beneficial for Malz.
He has huge mana issue are you crazy. One e and half his mana is gone. wtf do u even mean. and his e only gives mana if u get a kill and he barely gets kills on minions until level 3.
MeowGath2 votesSure thing...the purchase of Adaptive helm is one's choice. Not that I really agree with Malz being nerfed over and over again, but ok.
Anyway, mana issues on Malz?? Uhm...that means you aren't really using his E resets correctly. Like hell, his E doesn't even need to kill the target, it just has to die with it.
Late game Malz is spammy as all hell. Cooldowns are horrifyingly low on him once he reaches 40% CDR.
Not sure if you agree with me or not...that's how he is.
TheGoomyGamer1 votesAnyone who wants to.
Counterplay to malzahar as a mage - spend 2800 on 
You heard it here folks, waste an entire morello's worth of gold to counter malzahar.
It's as easy as that! If you ignore the fact you lose out on a damage item and the fact you are required to build an item to counter him him is complete BS
Existential Bard1 votesHe has the highest winrate of all midlaners and is in the top 5 highest winrates in the game. Before complaining do your research. If you think he is actually weak chances are you aren't playing him to the best of his ability.
http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/
Before you say anything about the other high win rates, they are working on those champs too. Right now, malzahar is just too oppressive with his DOTS. There is very little counterplay since if done correctly he can constantly have an E up. He also has reliable poke with aery. Even if you manage to get through Malzahar's E and minions he is either going to silence you or have his shield up.
Câsshern1 votesHe's arguably the best mid lane champ in the game.....don't try to say that he's bad.
He doesn't have mana issues and his damage is fucking obnoxious. 1 E usually chunks me for 1/2 my HP once he has 2-3 items and if he Qs me during this time I just die due to the reset of his E (which is a dumb mechanic). Even if I'm not dead that's excluding THE most broken part of his kit being his ult. The amount of damage his ult outputs is nutty and the fact that you need to pay 1300 gold for a pseudo counter to the ult is just silly considering QSS doesn't even stop the damage lmao. Plus, most AP champs don't want QSS, and for some reason Cleanse never worked against suppressions.
He's a broken champion right now and that's that. [sg-ahri-3]
meh, i agree with your points but i really want to touch on the "his ult does a lot of dmg" topic a bit. Firstly, it just doesn't. An ahead Malz will blow up, but almost never "kill" a squishy with just his ult. He typically W and E's you first so therefore you sit in all that dmg. The only times my ult has actually killed a target outright was when I was fed and the target was a champion like Sona. Also, you need to take into consideration that his ult does indeed make him a stationary target. That's a huge weakness in which people conveniently gloss over constantly. It's pretty simple to stay out of his kill zone in lane and pick a good match up since his early game is quite ass. His major weaknesses lategame are QSS and a stationary ult. Very very powerful champion yes, but with my points stated, I don't think the problem is his ultimate. To Riot's defense however, I'm not sure what else to nerf without making him complete garbage.
Śhunpo1 votesmeh, i agree with your points but i really want to touch on the "his ult does a lot of dmg" topic a bit. Firstly, it just doesn't. An ahead Malz will blow up, but almost never "kill" a squishy with just his ult. He typically W and E's you first so therefore you sit in all that dmg. The only times my ult has actually killed a target outright was when I was fed and the target was a champion like Sona. Also, you need to take into consideration that his ult does indeed make him a stationary target. That's a huge weakness in which people conveniently gloss over constantly. It's pretty simple to stay out of his kill zone in lane and pick a good match up since his early game is quite ass. His major weaknesses lategame are QSS and a stationary ult. Very very powerful champion yes, but with my points stated, I don't think the problem is his ultimate. To Riot's defense however, I'm not sure what else to nerf without making him complete garbage.
Nerf his E damage across all ranks so that he actually has to auto creeps more early and allow his E to tick more before resetting it at later ranks.
xGunna11 votesNOICE MOAAAAAAAAAR NERFS FOR THAT CANCER
Dr Dog1 votesfirst of all veigar is statistically not very op it just seems like it when you're stupid and dont know what buying a qss is, or ya know taking cleanse. on top of this veigar is a mid ranged immobile burst mage, hes SUPPOSED to one shot people while trying to stay safe since hes VERY easy to pick off and zed is completely countered by cc or zhonyas while malz has burst, a over the top winrate, nearly all point and click spells and long hard cc you cant cleanse, qss or do anything to get away from aswell as it pretty much killing you every time. everything happening to him is justified and needed since after all this hes still a %%%% to deal with and never falls off at any stage in the game
JAGL Aqua1 votesLol OP, are you expecting sympathy from people you've screwed over with your ult before?
[sg-miss-fortune]
Glad the nerfs hurt you ;)
ExaggeratedToast1 votesAre you still playing malzahar? he's been ass. they think he needs to be ass to make up for his ult, which btw can be qss'd. but enough people complained about it so they nerfed him. do you know why they complained? cuz they are slaves to the builds they look up and qss is not on that list.... the same reason my teams frequently lose against healing heavy teams cuz grievous wounds is not part of the build of their favorite build site.
4Shot Bot1 votesI agree especially after his latest nerf. Seriously, he has been nerfed enough. And now they have buffed Yi so much you don't even need to be good with him. Seriously malz needs to be buffed.