Cereal-Let's talk about Ahri

oops, sry im late, I was busy winning 1v2 mid against akali and morgana with elise jungle as ahri :3

You play as ? Never!

She crushed the fizz fad between her sweet honey ionian thighs like a watermelon on a gameshow

By far my favorite line. As for Ahri being fun, I'm going to be hnest and just say I never saw her appeal. She just doesn't look that fun to me and I don't enjoy playing her as much as Gragas or Shaco (And possibly a newer love of Sion). Different tastes, but I persoanlly never saw her appeal.

What do you play her as anyway? Bursty assassin?

I haven't seen him or JustMy since getting here. Kind of thinking of leaving myself, actually.

I tried to quit forums for a day. It didn't work.

In the Core rules, yes, there are more non-Int spellcasters to Int spellcasters. Bard and Sorcerer over Wizard. Then, you add Summoner vs. Witch and Magus, and they're equalized. Hybrid classes come in, Skald and Bloodrager vs. Arcanist.

You have 5 Charistma-based arcane spellcasters, and 4 Intelligence-based.

Still, how often do people build a Charisma-based character without Intelligence?

Well, to be fair, you can have Sorcerer use Int, Wis, or Cha with archetypes. You can also have Witch use Con with an archetype, which is silly. And now there's a Cha based Magus archetype.

Without Int? Not often. With Int at the same level as Cha? Not often. If I'm playing a Cha class, I'll usually put Int as my second or third lowest stat unless I'm playing a skill monkey.

Fair point, although basic Bards are the definition of skill monkeys.

It's just that the EK doesn't feel strong. BAB is only barely better than Magus, saves are worse than Magus, and Magus automatically gains armor proficiencies that don't affect arcane spells, instead of needing Arcane Armor feats. The only other theoretical situation I've considered using it is if the campaign goes past level 20, which is redundant when Mythic tiers exist..

Yes, but if I don't need the Int skills for whatever reason, then I don't bother much with Int. I already have enough skill points to be a problem.

Like I said, you can always combine it with Magus to cast MOAR SPELLS a turn. But for pretty much any of the prestige classes, they are at best on par but usually weaker than taking your base class to 20. But they tend to have fancy interesting abilities that can be used for wacky builds.

Fair point, although basic Bards are the definition of skill monkeys.

It's just that the EK doesn't feel strong. BAB is only barely better than Magus, saves are worse than Magus, and Magus automatically gains armor proficiencies that don't affect arcane spells, instead of needing Arcane Armor feats. The only other theoretical situation I've considered using it is if the campaign goes past level 20, which is redundant when Mythic tiers exist..

...dunno what youre talking about... but I think the more efficient path would be to add some more ahri. And then all your arcane things will flare up and you will be hard like a raidboss.

Like, for example, my magic sniper build. -Pick Halfling or Elf because they have racial benefits for Sniping stealth -Level 6 Rogue (Sniper archetype) -Level 4 Wizard (pretty much any archetype, focusing on Evocation and Divination) -Arcane Archer Prestige class.

You're going to have Far Shot plus Accuracy reducing range penalties to 1/4 (you can fire a composite longbow at it's maximum 1100 ft. range with only a -4 penalty) You can attach any AoE-based spell to your arrows, plus you get a lot of special abilities. Arcane Archer has the equivalent of Whirlwind Attack, up to (class level) targets within range at the highest attack bonus. Which will be literally everywhere that you can see. And nobody will be able to tell where the hell that Fireball came from c:

I'm running a silly high level campaign right now because my group whined when I kicked their ass with single NPCs of their level. Racial template+gestalt in PF is just as broken as it sounds. I have an optional fight set up for them that's 20 levels of Magus, 10 levels of EK, and 10 levels of it-doesn't-matter-anymore. This monstrosity will take the entire party and win. Probably on turn one. Because Dimensional chain full attack into 2 metamagic'd meteor swarms is fair.

... Every single time I start talking with other GMs, they tend to have more experience with systems, and they tend to be every bit as evil as I am. Why is that?

Because it takes some malevolent glee to be able to design fun and challenging encounters. It takes extreme sadism to make fights that you know will wreck their shit.

Oh shit, this is still going? About damn time you showed up, box dude. I was getting worried. Also, Isn't Akali + Morg + Jung Elise technically a 3v1? Don't downplay your successes.

its still called 1v2 since elise was jungle. Also technically I had amumu who would go at them whenever I wasn't there and risk feeding so id have to say~~ 1v4 if we count jungers huehuehue ~~I meant 2v3 hue.

Oh lord, I just saw bunies. Taking bets on how long until he makes a nerf lee sin thread 9_9

Is this where we're headed for the old regulars, now? The spot we'll just meet? Also, Bunies offered up many logical reason to nerf Lee. It's clear he will be a long lasting member of the community.

*crickets *

Coming in with the response.