so jayce can 100-0 you with one rotation at level 2.

MunchCrunchLunch·Jan 23, 2017·50 votes·3,934 views

meanwhile you can't 100-0 people with zed with an ult and a perfect combo at level 6 unless you're already fed or already have landed a rotation of spell before hand.

outplayed

59 Comments

DunkinNoobsJan 23, 201731 votes

Are you playing Sona with no defensive runes? Because that's the only way I can see this happening.

Jinzo TorranceJan 23, 201716 votes

No, people still haven't learned how to space correctly against a Jayce so they lose half of their health at level 1 because they let him AA freely.

And they have to courage to call it a 100-0 too.

DolasaurJan 23, 20174 votes

If you let him auto attack you once a second for 10 seconds, and then he hits level 2 and kills you, I'd consider that 100-0. An embarrassingly long 100-0, but still 100-0. I'm personally happy OP used

100-0 you with one rotation

rather than the ubiquitous "one-shot", which often means "used 4 abilities, 1 item active, and Ignite, plus a teammate's CC that did like 200 damage, and it killed me from 60% health". If I had a nickel for every time someone claimed Ahri "one-shot" him with just W and R, I could go buy myself lunch ;)

ßurstJan 24, 20171 votes

I doubt that once every 10 secs can lead to a level 2 all in one shot. If youre willing to walk up and repeatedly take dmg from a ranged top for taking cs which all ranged tops do, then thats your fault. let the wave push to you stay in xp range and wait. the get auto'd more closely to once every 2 seconds then they back off when they are half come back get autod and thunderlords procs they are like 30 % and then just get all in'd. It's your fault and it couldve been prevented lol

Covert Ops GnarJan 24, 20171 votes

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Are you playing Sona with no defensive runes? Because that's the only way I can see this happening.

lvl 2 jayce aa reduce armor/MR jayce EQ in ranged = 150+ dmg R q into their face with point n click for 100 dmg press e and stand next to them for 100 dmg aa them for 125 dmg ignite for 100 damage ~500 dmg without any other auto attacks besides the buffed ones. Wait 9 seconds for cooldowns and repeat without ignite

skill

OelykJan 24, 20172 votes

Totally not factoring damage reduction from armor, plus his E is acceleration gate+thundering blow, his stand next to them is W.

Look people, stop trying to fight a champ meant to be strong post 6, especially if he backs and buys dirk plus long sword, or phage, call for a gank, stand back and respect him instead of getting angry, you will eventually get him back.

Hi lm NeganJan 23, 20177 votes

Main zed, I ALWAYS pick zed into Jayce cause I dick them lol. He doesn't do shit at lvl 2 and if you hit everything on a jayce lvl 6 and you have even gold he is donezo... zed buffs are confirmed for 7.3 but he is not as weak as you are making him out to be.

Jayce tales like half your health at lvl2 and I don't even run armor runes against him when I play zed.

GayFluffyUnicornJan 23, 20172 votes

Ha i usually pick jayce into zed. So far never lost to zed. Mostly a skill matchup imo.

GelmousJan 23, 20176 votes

i think OP played once against a jayce and he played really badly

ßurstJan 24, 20171 votes

I bet lvl 1 he let jayce auto him at least 8 times

TotalJerkJan 23, 20174 votes

There are almost no champions in this entire game that can 100-0 in a single rotation at level 6 unless they are disgustingly fed. Later in the game this is a thing, but you're full of shit if you're trying to say it happens at 6.

RocketRelmJan 23, 20171 votes

To be fair, Morgana Mid can 100-0 somebody at lvl 6, but it's a dedicated all-in that happens over the course of 5-7 seconds, and is hard to use on anybody with mobility without actually leading with the snare. It is technically 1 rotation, though.

TotalJerkJan 23, 20171 votes

Totally forgot she could do that. I always play her support or top, so I rarely get the chance anyway. Still I said "almost no champions".

MelledoneusJan 23, 20171 votes

Lux Comes to mind.

TheOnlyJoeJan 23, 20171 votes

Plenty of champions that can 100-0 after level at 6 Syndra after her first recall if the enemy hasn't gotten any MR yet LeBlanc Katarina can also kill in a single rotation once she goes back and gets Revolver

TotalJerkJan 23, 20171 votes

Most of those champions have to hit item spikes they wont typically reach until quite a few levels after 6. Maybe around 8-10 I can see a non fed champion 100-0ing someone, but if they aren't fed most champions take more than one rotation to solokill at that point.

TheOnlyJoeJan 23, 20171 votes

It's why i included Katarina needing Revolver and Syndra lostchapter/first back

IWasteEssenceJan 24, 20171 votes

Annie

TotalJerkJan 24, 20171 votes

Fresh off level 6 she can't by herself.

ItsOrvalJan 23, 20174 votes

Jayce can get you to 50% health with all of his abilities at lvl 2, but will lose almost all his mana. Then you would be free to just farm and harass Jayce out of lane.

ShaydroxJan 23, 20173 votes

You're so right lol. It's sad what state Jayce is in, friend of mine plays him and just rolls over everything at toplane because he can poke them down while having more all-in power in melee range when he needs it. Champ is utterly broken but Riot obviously knew what they were doing when they gave him 7 buffs last season.

TengenToppaGnarJan 23, 20172 votes

Well it is pretty ridiculous that his little ranged combo at lvl 2 will chunk some champs for 300HP

MohawkBirdJan 23, 20172 votes

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RalanrJan 23, 20173 votes

Considering his seige potential, he doesn't really fall off late.

Snowman ArcJan 23, 20171 votes

Well, Elise can pick people off really well late game too, 1shotting them and then rapelling to stay safe, along with other uses of her kit like slows from Rylais, skillshot blocking with spiderlings and good objective control through execute damage.

TheOnlyJoeJan 23, 20171 votes

Atleast Elise doesn't destroy me after i dodge her most important ability (Cocoon) and after i nullify her range adventage by going melee. Meanwhile Jayce has absolutely no downside to his form changing, normally the pay-off for being ranged is that you die quickly if you fail to keep the distance. Jayce doesn't give a fuck, he presses R and goes into melee form, still nuking your ass even if he missed empowered shockblast

UltîmaJan 23, 20173 votes

You're forgetting something important OP; Lethality is getting buffed significantly next patch. So Zed will finally be able to kill carries. Meanwhile Jayce will be able to one-shot tanks next patch.

YuGiHoJan 23, 20172 votes

Champ rushes tear and still outrades you after first back

Photos of GhostsJan 23, 20172 votes

Afaik he's become strong precisely because he doesn't need to rush tear anymore.

KaiokoJan 23, 20171 votes

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Champ rushes tear and still outrades you after first back

He doesn't rush tear anymore. He's one of the best early game champions and relies on ending the game quickly otherwise he fizzles out late game.

Papa AndreiJan 23, 20171 votes

Unless you build him old style still.

13900 EssenceJan 23, 20172 votes

Bring armor runes. It makes me laugh when people have pages with no resistances/only one type of resistance. Right now, both types of damage can be taken to every lane.

If you did have armor, you must have misplayed pretty hard to let him get a melee q, ranged q, and at least three ranged autos (jayce usually levels q-w-e). In other words, he wouldn't have his empowered ranged q yet which is most of the damage.

If he did go q-e, then just stay away from the gate/stand a few steps behind minions. He won't do any damage if he misses his q.

BakedLotionJan 24, 20171 votes

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Bring armor runes. It makes me laugh when people have pages with no resistances/only one type of resistance. Right now, both types of damage can be taken to every lane.

If you did have armor, you must have misplayed pretty hard to let him get a melee q, ranged q, and at least three ranged autos (jayce usually levels q-w-e). In other words, he wouldn't have his empowered ranged q yet which is most of the damage.

If he did go q-e, then just stay away from the gate/stand a few steps behind minions. He won't do any damage if he misses his q.

tbh i played kat against a jayce once, dodged his q, went in, and he still chunked me for half my hp just through W + hammer auto burst+E lmao

StoryDuckJan 23, 20172 votes

I suspect minions played a role here.

Legacy HydralphaJan 23, 20171 votes

"Minions, please move. I need to avoid the Jayce Q."

You have been slain.

"YOU'RE MY TEAM'S MINIONS. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?"

Ariel the CruelJan 23, 20172 votes

Minions: Jayce is about to Q. Quick, surround our champion!

Jayce An ally has been slain. MonkeyKing

Wukong: F'ing unit collision!

Minions: But.... We were protecting you. . . (T_T)

VeltoxJan 23, 20172 votes

I can believe 50% or a bit more. But if he kills you with just 1 rotation you're doing something wrong.

ßurstJan 24, 20171 votes

Like get auto'd to 30% hp I bet lol

TheorcheroJan 23, 20172 votes

...What?

You absolutely can as zed, wtf?

Proxy345Jan 23, 20172 votes

Only if you stand there in point blank range and let him do that to you lol

MelledoneusJan 23, 20171 votes

This might be exaggerated.

Still, I have to ask: Why the hell does Jayce have 20% max HP MAGIC DAMAGE on his E? It's the single largest non-stacking %HP damage move in the game and it also knocks you back and stuns you.

deoje299Jan 23, 20171 votes

Since when does jayce have a stun? His E knocks you back, but it does not stun, also it is only 20% at rank 6, and this ablity is almost always maxed last.

MelledoneusJan 23, 20171 votes

Jayce's E has a mini-stun after the displacement effect is over, like Alistar's W.

DanjengJan 23, 20171 votes

As with most knockbacks.

MelledoneusJan 23, 20171 votes

Poppy's knockback doesn't mini-stun unless you hit a wall. Azir's knockback only has you incapacitated while you're in the air. Gnar's knockback is the same as Poppy's. Syndra's only stops you if she hits you with an orb. Kled's mini-knockback doesn't do it either. Thresh's knockback doesn't do it.

The majority of knockbacks in the game do not mini-stun after the displacement.

3TWarriorJan 23, 20171 votes

it's not so much a stun but the character is unable to enter commands during the displacement, though this is roughly only a few hundred milliseconds

he uses old coding, just like lee, though jayce's was updated more recently or so they say...the only thing that was really different was a number of upgrades to his kit(no ult upgrades) and a couple of number tweaks

6SfoolJan 24, 20171 votes

Which is why I ban jayce every single time I go top, no matter who I take. He's got siege, burst, mobility, self-peel. He's a generalist, but unlike Azir he's not undertuned.

Wînter FoxJan 24, 20171 votes

Telegraphed QE from range that you failed to dodge/minion block, then R into a melee Q-auto-E probably took you from 60% hp to 10% hp at level 2. Then you probably stuck around wondering wtf just happened and still tried to farm which gave Jayce a chance to R again and just auto you to death.

"One shot" indeed.