So, PBE 5.6 content so far: A+, except for one little thing: Ryze. Some reasonable criticism inside

MrSc0tty·Mar 12, 2015·31 votes·4,359 views

I get that you are using the texture rebalances to remove detail that gets lost in the zoom-out from the champ, but Ryze is looking just a tiny bit too washed out. His default skin especially seems to use too limited a color range for his blue, leaving him looking a bit like a faceless mannequin.

Ryze's weird buffness and non-stereotypical Mage style have always been his defining feature. Please add back some of that muscle definition so he still reads as beefy in game.

Revert Smurf Ryze 2015. Keep literally everything else in 5.6. Seriously, dat Panth update, dat Nami skin, and honestly good on ya for stealing mastery levels from smite (lord knows they've taken enough from you already COUGHCOUGHWUKONG)

Anyway just my two cents.

21 Comments

NorthernDruidMar 12, 201517 votes

Keep his tattoos and scroll runes pronounced enough that you can actually see them.

EedatMar 12, 201513 votes

lord knows they've taken enough from you already COUGHCOUGHWUKONG

Actually, Wukong is based on the Chinese story of Sun Wukong in the 16th century book Journey to the West. Sun Wukong translated to Japanese is Son Goku. Yes, Wukong is based on the same character that Goku from DBZ is. Think about it. Both ride flying Nimbus clouds. Goku transforms into a monkey in the full moon. Both have extending staffs.

Smite didn't really steal it from Riot because it wasn't Riot's idea in the first place :p

dunder killMar 12, 20156 votes

Wukong is based on the same character that Goku from DBZ is

mind = blown

Tis a nice dayMar 12, 20151 votes

Goku is more of an animated spin-off of the traditional Sun Wukong (Son Goku).

The5lackerMar 12, 20151 votes

Journey to the West: Inspired a lot more shit than people initially think.

WIOP6457Mar 12, 20151 votes

I read somewhere that those are both powers exhibited by wukong in chinese mythology.

Yuki AkumaMar 12, 20159 votes

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I get that you are using the texture rebalances to remove detail that gets lost in the zoom-out from the champ, but Ryze is looking just a tiny bit too washed out. His default skin especially seems to use too limited a color range for his blue, leaving him looking a bit like a faceless mannequin.

Ryze's weird buffness and non-stereotypical Mage style have always been his defining feature. Please add back some of that muscle definition so he still reads as beefy in game.

Revert Smurf Ryze 2015. Keep literally everything else in 5.6. Seriously, dat Panth update, dat Nami skin, and honestly good on ya for stealing mastery levels from smite (lord knows they've taken enough from you already COUGHCOUGHWUKONG)

Anyway just my two cents.

Sun Wukong is an actual God. They didn't take him from LoL, they took him from actual mythos.

OJ191Mar 12, 20154 votes

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I get that you are using the texture rebalances to remove detail that gets lost in the zoom-out from the champ, but Ryze is looking just a tiny bit too washed out. His default skin especially seems to use too limited a color range for his blue, leaving him looking a bit like a faceless mannequin.

Ryze's weird buffness and non-stereotypical Mage style have always been his defining feature. Please add back some of that muscle definition so he still reads as beefy in game.

Revert Smurf Ryze 2015. Keep literally everything else in 5.6. Seriously, dat Panth update, dat Nami skin, and honestly good on ya for stealing mastery levels from smite (lord knows they've taken enough from you already COUGHCOUGHWUKONG)

Anyway just my two cents.

eh calling wukong stolen in a game about gods/immortals/myths/etc is kinda silly.

MrSc0ttyMar 13, 20151 votes

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eh calling wukong stolen in a game about gods/immortals/myths/etc is kinda silly.

I'm not calling the character totally stolen...

But a trickster god who transforms could be a melee Mage, an assassin, even an AD carry with his clones...

But no. Wukong in smite is an AD bruiser with extendo-staff poke, spin AOE, dash (albeit with an animal morph) and clone.

Loki's kit: Backstab passive, clone, stealth , blink, slow. Different arrangement still Shaco

Chaacs kit: throw weapon, jump to weapon, AOE slow+sustain, big burst ult. Can he be more epic?

Hades' kit: Blink with AOE damage on arrival, silence, instant cone attack, even looks like Kassadin.

HaloMar 13, 20151 votes

I wouldnt agree...

Loki, Backstab passive: To be honest lol didnt even do it first, It was dota. Loki, The clone: Its a freakin inmoveble minion taunt. It is literally useless against gods. Its only there to help him clear the jungle. Loki, The blink: This isnt similar to shaco what so ever. U blink either to a target or just anywere and if u blink to a target it stuns the target dealing a bit of dmg. How this is similar to shaco is beyond me. To be honest its more similar to rengar than to shaco.

Chaac, Thorws weapon then jumps to it: Who is this similar to? I mean the ablitiy u use to blink to the axe is difrent than the ability u use to throw the axe. That isnt even his main use of that ability. U sualy use this ability to enhance his other abilities most of the time his. His ult is an AOE silence nuke and with the axe its also a knockup. Chaac, AOE slow sustain: Its a sustain and slow yes. It has a ad scaling and interacts with his first ability. Chaac, AOE burst ult: Yeah cuz lol is the first one to do that. That aint even an argument. Is he supose to be similar to lissandra?! How is he similar to her?! If not who?

Hades, Blink AOE dmg: U kiddin with me? 1, How is lol the first one to do this? 2, This isnt even his main abilitie and it has a waaaay longer cooldown than kassadins ult not to speak of the fact that kassadin wasnt even the first one in moba to have a "blink aoe that deals dmg on arrival) Like what?. Its more similar to khas jump without a reset than kassadins. Hades, silence: First i want to point out that kassas silnce currently lasts for about 0,2 seconds and is a channel interrupter. Hades silence is a cone ffs wich also fears if they have his passive on them. Is this similar to kassadin? Nope. Hades, Instant cone attack: Yeah thats his silence and fear. Anything else? Hades, even looks like kassadin:...Well no. Does kassadin wear bones? no. Does hades have scuuba diving tubes on his back? no. I mean their particel effects aint even the slightest similar and hades face is hidden inside a robe and u can only spot his eyes. I mean dafuq that does not look similar to seriously?

IreScalMar 12, 20152 votes

+1 agree absolutely.

Celeste BenalMar 12, 20152 votes

Darius

Noxian Guillotine (R) [Still looking, might be more]

    Mana cost reduced to 100/50/0

    New Effect: At rank 3, Noxian Guillotine's cooldown resets entirely on kill

Fuck no. The cooldown change is academic. It can already be recast for 20 seconds. But the complete removal of all mana costs at level 3 is utterly and completely retarded. There is literally nothing stopping him from ulting and killing every member of the enemy team. He does a shit-tonne of true damage (340-680 + 75-150% AD) with that move. He really does not need to be spamming it all over the rift.

League does not need a tankier Katarina up in top lane.

DeliothMar 12, 20153 votes

Except he ONLY gets it if he kills someone with the ult- none of this getting out and having it reset to jump back in, and the fact that it's only 1 skill he gets reset for, and the top damage from it needs to have 5 stacks on a target- he can't do that too quickly anyways. At the same time, the rest of his abilities have real cooldowns and, you know, mana costs. It's not like he can SURPRISE be in your team at any moment. He's pretty slow (If he is surprising your whole team, learn to ward better.)

Kat has A) 0 mana costs. On everything. Not even a health cost or pseudo-resource like stacks of something she has to wait for like Akali's ult (Admittedly short wait, but same idea). B) She gets to reset on any kill/assist (within 3 secs)- she's not gated to killing with 1 ability(Or even killing at all), and with her short CD's/resets anyways, she can chase you down with a quicker movespeed and a blink.

Also, this is a thread about Ryze.

agbudarMar 12, 20151 votes

dont forget to mention that for those damage numbers he needs 5 stacks of his passive on each target. he usually does not build attack speed and can only pull of 2-3 Q every team fight.

Tis a nice dayMar 12, 20151 votes

So he's like old Darius except without the early game. I'm fine with that.