Why does everyone hate Zed even thought he is one of the most counterable champions in the game?

Cogito Ergo Sol ··1 votes·1,281 views

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Titanium706 votes

Well problem with Zed is (besides the fact that he forces counter-Builds) his laning:

Its obnoxious. He outranges a Xerath, has a build in last hit tool, has effective waveclear, while being AD and Energy (<- Terrible combination - always)

Playing against a brained Zed (not these ololol Zed OP, need to abuse guys) is antifun - you either beat him, which means he will hug his tower while still getting every CS without risking anything (we're still talking about an Assassin) or you loose against him and he zones you permanently.

The only way to destroy a Zed is playing something like LB - Every other Champ in this whole Game just lacks the mechanical tools to kill Zed when he did no huge mistake earlier. While Zed himselfe can use even a tiny position error to get an easy kill.

Zed just laughs about any Risk and Reward relations - he is a Save Assassin and thats why I hate this guy.

Maximum Morde3 votes

Because it's nearly impossible to punish him even if his player is a moron. Same problem with Le Blanc and Lee Sin.

Sir Yamazuki3 votes

He's an AD Assassin with Mage like qualities, of course no one is going to like that. If he was -just- an AD Assassin, there would be no problems. He has the qaulities of an assassin with none of the drawbacks while having some of the qualities of a mage with none if their drawbacks. The other Assassins usually die if they fail to kill their target, or even still die when they do where as Zed doesn't. As for his mage like qualities that I am referring to, it's a safe laning and safe wave clear, but he doesn't use mana like mages do so he can do that indefinitely, and being under tower also isn't an issue for him like it is for mages since he's AD+passive and uses no mana.

TyroneWatermelon2 votes

He is only countered by items,takes no skill to play in lane,FORCING you to build certain unpleasant items and stats.

Cogito Ergo Sol 2 votes

Well Zhonyas is built almost every game, you might be right about QSS tho. Remeber that Mercurial Scimitar got buffed so it's really good for the stats that it gives and the good active that you can use for almost anything

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

Zhonya isn't built every game. HOWEVER,Zed has No counterplay(except dodging shurikens),only Counterbuild,which is forcing you to change your entire plans and build a special item

themanspyro1 votes

As a Fizz main, and someone that plays a lot of AP mid, Zhonya's is first build when landing against a Zed. 75% of the time that lane is won by yours truly. 100% if I play Fizz

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

That's what every Mage builds vs Zed as first item. No offense but winning lane as Fizz takes the same amout of skill as winning it with Garen,Darius and Annie,which is almost completely nonexistent

Cogito Ergo Sol 2 votes

I undestand what you mean. Still I have to say that I see almost every game a defensive item on ADCs (BT, Death Dance, Mercurial Scimitar etc) and zhonyas is common on most builds on AP champions

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

I don't know which adc builds Zhonya,it's noth worth the gold anyway if the active serves no purpose,I can seriously argue that death's dance isn't a defensive item.

Cogito Ergo Sol 1 votes

I was indeed talking about ap champs lol

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

I don't know who is the fool who builds it every game,people should build it only if there is a high risk of a threat getting close to you and raping your butthole. Or instead you can get other items with more than just flat ap and ar

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

because his infinite sustain, safety and ability to control lane is extremely annoying. i wouldnt say hes super strong, but he is simply boring and annoying to play against. tho i wouldnt make a thread complaining about him.

Cogito Ergo Sol 1 votes

Not complaining, I'm just curious because I actually play Zed and I wanted to know what people think about him. Tho im just silver so I can't say if hes OP/Broken or anything else

Raoul1 votes

Same reason I hate LeBlanc: You shouldnt have an engage that is at the same time an escape, that you can use to escape AFTER you used it to engage on the same Cooldown! Akali might be a Pain in the Ass, but at least when she goes in, its all out, not "Watch me nuke your Squishy and then I am behind my team again!"

Athenes Lulu1 votes

I mean, we don't like Riven, Lee Sin, and Thresh either, though they all have "counterplay".

OperationDEEZ11 votes

Because Zed is too fucking safe for an assassin and he always has been and it's never been addressed.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

Because his passive should not work vs. minions. Because his laning is obnoxiously safe. Because there is no shutting down a Zed. Because he has no-long-term cost to his poke.

In short, because his laning phase is utterly obnoxious. His assassination pattern itself is fine.

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