Plese do NOT let ADCarries take both Shiv and rapidfire cannon

Cogito Ergo Sol ··91 votes·7,921 views

Aside from the fact that Corki should be the magic damage adc, getting hit by 500 magic dmg PLUS ad PLUS crit chance is not fun and it doesn't even make sense. Make it like Ravenous Hydra and Titanic Hydra. You can get only one of them but you can switch freely

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Irelia Bot33 votes

In reality they shoud all have the same passive name of ENERGIZED STRIKE.

khorney7 votes

but there passives are completely different .....

Spicy Rice32 votes

Same with titanic and ravenous..

Irelia Bot4 votes

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but there passives are completely different .....

And in that case it only would apply the rapidfire damage to the main target and the Shiv damage to everyone else in the area. Much like how if you were to get a trinity force and a IBG you would in turn be doing the trinity damage to the target attacked and everyone else would be taking the IBG damage. In turn this would make it far from ideal for stacking but not completely dead for stacking.

Rebonack5 votes

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And in that case it only would apply the rapidfire damage to the main target and the Shiv damage to everyone else in the area. Much like how if you were to get a trinity force and a IBG you would in turn be doing the trinity damage to the target attacked and everyone else would be taking the IBG damage. In turn it make it far from ideal for stacking but not completely dead for stacking.

This man speaks wisdom.

The nonsense with Shiv and Cannon are exactly the reason why Spellblade effects don't stack.

Hyrum Graff2 votes

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This man speaks wisdom.

The nonsense with Shiv and Cannon are exactly the reason why Spellblade effects don't stack.

>Tons of damage item 3078 item 3078 item 3078 item 3078 item 3078 item 3078

Lady Hammerlock3 votes

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And in that case it only would apply the rapidfire damage to the main target and the Shiv damage to everyone else in the area. Much like how if you were to get a trinity force and a IBG you would in turn be doing the trinity damage to the target attacked and everyone else would be taking the IBG damage. In turn it make it far from ideal for stacking but not completely dead for stacking.

hooray for spaghetti

khorney1 votes

you would get both procs why wouldnt you for static and rapid firecannon. ice born and tri force are the same item static and firecannon are not the same item. so when i play as kass and yes kass i get ludens and static at some point becuase your doing 2 times the aoe magic damage and they both proc on his w for some reason. but in this case static and rapid fir cannon are the same item but diff procs so you would be able to get them both it is just taking the passiv and making it a single target instead of aoe

Blazing Tenshi3 votes

Sheen proc items don't double proc.

Bill Gatez24 votes

It's not only good on ADC. I built these on AD assassin Shaco because I figured his passive would be a garunteed 20% damage boost to the item passives, assuming you attack from behind.

The results were shocking.

Actually xPeke9 votes

upvote for pun

Ariel the Cruel18 votes

Caitlyn head shot item 3087 item 3094 item 3078 item 3031 item 3742 item 3036 Have you ever 1-shot Statan Teemo? I HAVE!

Chaotic Reks3 votes

item 3742 doesn't work on cait silly

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

It doesn't? Don't see anything saying that. (>_>)

(Although fun trivia, I tried this on Braum (minus LDR). Was hilariously fun.

Steelflame1 votes

Look at the text. It says the movement passive stacks, but only melee attacks can proc the damage component. This actually lead to me having a different misunderstanding of it, I thought it might still get the movement stacks (It does. Good for supports who want to trade in mobis, even if ranged) but wouldn't consume the stacks on AA. It does though sadly, would have been a overkill overpowered kiting tool otherwise though...

Ariel the Cruel6 votes

item 3742 I'm reading it. Nowhere does it say anything about the damage only applying on Melee. I use it on bard and have never had it not proc. I've even gone through it on the wiki. there were no changes about it every being changed to/from a melee proc.

Are you confusing it with Hydra maybe?

Llanite2 votes

Crushing Blow: Basic attacks discharge all Momentum, dealing 1 physical damage per 2 stacks. If 100 stacks are discharged, damage is doubled and the target is slowed by 75% decaying over 1 second (melee only).

Gubaguy3 votes

yeah... people are kinda stupid, the melee only part ONLY appleuis to the "damage is doubled and the target is slowwed..." bits. it will STILL do 1 damage per 2 stacvks on EVERY champion.

Verxint1 votes

so at most 50 extra damage that cant crit?

If you want to one shot, you're better off just getting a ghostblade for more damage and pen.

And trinity? Really? I don't know caitlyn's base AD but I'm pretty sure anything else would actually boost your headshot damage more than the procs damage.

Anidan2 votes

Based on its position in the build, it's a replacement for boots that gives tankiness and a little damage. That sounds a lot more likely than picking it up purely for damage (though the damage was probably helpful in choosing it).

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Yes, it's a boot replacement.

Also, this build is a joke. Don't take it too seriously. XD

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Everything adds bonus damage. That was the whole point. I would have added a Luden's, but figured that was going too far when the joke was to 1-shot something.

willuwontu1 votes

From the wiki

Limitations On ranged champions, CRUSHING BLOW cannot deal damage, nor Slow icon slow. However, Momentum will still discharge on on-hit.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Dead_Man's_Plate

Ace Access 1 votes

get item 3072 instead of item 3742

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Eh, that would mess up the joke though.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lwtdqozK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-11-21T21:15:32.968+0000)

Caitlyn head shot item 3087 item 3094 item 3078 item 3031 item 3742 item 3036 Have you ever 1-shot Statan Teemo? I HAVE!

38 minutes in, enemy team was chasing me, alone, out of their base. Meanwhile my team secures 5th dragon.

Full HP, lvl 16 Vayne item 3153 item 3930 item 1001 item 3812 item 3094 item 1042 steps on a trap I, lvl 18 Caitlyn item 3031 item 3139 item 3087 item 3812 item 3102 item 3006 aa her once. Boom, headshot.

A moment of silence.

"An enemy has been slain."

According to the wiki, lvl 16 vayne has 1700 hp. Legit highest league moment I've ever had.

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SH Azykan1 votes

your highest damage critical strike was 3116 that game...I havent even seen dravens hit that hard O.o

supes the lost1 votes

Is this why everyone is spamming Caitlyn on teambuilder? This explains a lot.

Reaper Review5 votes

Unique Passive - Energize: Moving or using basic attacks Energizes you. When fully energized, your next basic attack discharges the energy and bonus effect.

Is there any real reason the Energize thing has to be listed as two different passives? Especially if you make it less ideal to stack them.

The Ecdysiast4 votes

NO WAIT

HOW ABOUT WE LET FIGHTERS HAVE BOTH RAVENOUS AND TITANIC

Spoofghoul1 votes

Brilliant idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eternal Kage3 votes

From my experience they proc over 900 magic damage and it does feel alittle op

khorney2 votes

why couldnt someone take both there passives are completely different and they do different things

RogueWill2 votes

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why couldnt someone take both there passives are completely different and they do different things

under that logic item 3025 and item 3100 shoudl be able to proc together since they do different things

khorney1 votes

..... they are spell blade...... meaning unique passive, static and rapid fire cannon are different unique passives in the case of ice born lich bane and tri force they will all get the ice born ice passive but the strength goes to which ever one is stronger which again by default lich bane or triforce and

RogueWill1 votes

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..... they are spell blade...... meaning unique passive, static and rapid fire cannon are different unique passives in the case of ice born lich bane and tri force they will all get the ice born ice passive but the strength goes to which ever one is stronger which again by default lich bane or triforce and

exactly my point, they only don't stack because they have the same name and so should item 3087 and item 3094. You shoudl be able to fire item 3094 if you have 100 stacks but use the same stacks to discharge the item 3087. that way you can use either depending on the situation but never both at the same time.

and item 3100 item 3025 item 3078 are used on completely differen scenarios, while one is used mostly for soft cc, the other for extra busrt on ap damage and the last as a round out on bruisers/semi tanks as the most cost efficient way of damage.

khorney1 votes

again what part of different unique passives do you not understand rapid fire cannon and static discharge . they have different names therefore you can proc both passives , tri force ice born and lich bane , all there unique passives have the same exact name , static shiv and rapid fire cannons unique passiveshave different names tehre for you can proc both one is aoe the other is a single target damage which i get on kass

Count Zubat2 votes

Love the idea of giving those two items, what I will call, a "hydra treatment". Both items share one same component: Kircheis's Shard, have the same price of 2500 gold and a passive that works on the same mechanic (energizing). The same thing occurs with Hydras: both sharing a component ( Tiamat), price (3600) and similar passive and active (cleave and crescent). It would be just logical to make them work like Hydras, especially when taking into account that, when combined, these items create incredibly strong, even a bit unfair, synergy. When I saw that these 2 items can be used simultanousely, the first thing that came into my mind are the times when Sunfires where stackable. This instance is pretty similar.

Orangesilk1 votes

But since riot HATES mages, then how are we supposed to poke people under turret if not with the RFC + Shiv combo? it makes no sense, sieges would go on forever.

The Loveless1 votes

It's not a constant 500 damage unless they have runaans, which would be overkill and silly. The adc has to move to generate stacks and it takes about 7 seconds on average to fully build.

Professor Ward1 votes

Corki is the hybrid damage adc not the magic damage adc that role is given to ezreal

Battlecast Sona3 votes

actually, Corki does more magic damage than physical, overall. I mean, yeah he has physical mixed in there (and deals a decent amount of physical damage) but his Q, W, and R all do magical damage, and while Ezreal's are similar I feel like The Package puts Corki over the edge (since it deals magical damage that scales heavily with AD... so silly). If will say I think that Ezreal building AP is better now than Corki doing it (Corki wants at least some AD items because of the super heavy scaling for AD on The Package + the insanity of half physical damage half magical damage crits on squishy targets...) but Corki can output more magical damage overall, at least while still fulfilling the role of "adc".

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

Ezreal's Q (which makes up most of his damage) does physical damage. Sure he does a lot of magic damage if he builds AP, but he'll do almost all physical with a full AD build, as he'll only being really doing magic with his ult. Corki does 80% magic damage with an ad build, and almost all magic with an AP build.

Dengeden1 votes

Can we stop pretending that mixed damage is the best thing since sliced bread? ADCs won't have any magic pen and if you're trying to take a hit, you certainly will have MR. Besides, if the enemy ADC can buy both of those items without any repercussions, it's either a Vayne (who isn't very good now, what with all the adcs being strong early to mid again) or you lose anyway. They gave up armor pen, life steal or a lifesaving item and you can't abuse that? Gg m8.

N30NP4NDA1 votes

Void Staff is core on Corki :P

Dengeden1 votes

It's listed under "situational items" :P

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it'll do damage but you're completely throwing scaling out the window with that build. It's like building Luden's or Liandry's.

Lucifer1 votes

That's quite a bit of AD they dont get if they buy both.

N30NP4NDA1 votes

Corki doesnt build either of those.[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Lajinn51 votes

Imposing reasonable restrictions on ADCs? That would be madness, they're our new overlords don't you know

hobomann21 votes

if only league implemented some sort of "UNIQUE ATTACK MODIFIER"descriptor on items with on-hit effects and shit like that those with said descriptor cant stack,

(LIKE A GOOD GAME WOULD)

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