There is no Bruiser AP Itemization?

taleofsonata·Nov 2, 2017·1 votes·399 views

Ad have good Bruiser Itemization, how about AP? What do AP have?

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420 gramsNov 2, 20172 votes

Liandrys and rylais

taleofsonataNov 2, 20171 votes

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Liandrys and rylais

I don't see those built on Galio, Those are Utilities itemization, primary built to enhance specific champions abilities such as being able to hit both E of Viktor or shred a tank with Dot damage like Malzahar E. AP Bruiser Items are items that give both tankyness while giving alot penetration and CDR.

Whosa Is YousaNov 2, 20172 votes

Liandrys is built on ap galio. One of his core items.

taleofsonataNov 2, 20172 votes

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Liandrys is built on ap galio. One of his core items.

AP Galio, not Bruiser Galio, You know what a Bruiser or Juggernaut is? Look at Darius for exemple.

SukishooNov 2, 20171 votes

Generally, a "Bruiser" build will inner mix all of the items you mentioned or others mentioned item 3047 item 3027 item 3065 item 3025 item 3742 item 3001 . So they are all situational.

420 gramsNov 2, 20172 votes

They both give health and liandrys let's you kill tanks effectively, which is needed as a bruiser. You also can stick to those squishy targets with relais, something you need if you're playing an ap bruiser.

There's also gunblade.

MordepoolNov 2, 20171 votes

Mordekaiser as an AP Bruiser benefits more from mage items and tank items Since there isn't really an option for AP+ Durability item that mages wouldn't exploit

chipndip1Nov 2, 20171 votes

There's hardly any fighters that ARE ap to begin with. WHAT ap bruisers?

ErockandrollNov 2, 20171 votes

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There's hardly any fighters that ARE ap to begin with. WHAT ap bruisers?

Personally, I don't even think that Bruisers are really good at being classified by their damage stat.

Fizz had a Bruiser Build, Ekko had a Bruiser Build, but they didn't itemize AP, even though their Assassin builds do. WHY? Well both were designed with Lichbane in mind, so logically, they would also work with other sheen items such as Trinity force. And generally, TF is a pretty decent item for Bruisers due to the up front damage it offers.

But since that damage is their, without reliance on stacking more AD, it doesn't matter too much if those champs were AD to begin with. And since Bruisers only build one or two damage items to begin with, it becomes a bit difficult to justify having ratios that don't impact your AA's. Then it become the point of why even have those ratios. The only way I could see this working, is if you had a high amount of self shield/sustain that scaled off of AP, allowing an AP to have a Bruiser esk kit, with a high AP build.

And considering that most AP items better support burst, the one champ that was designed to be an AP Bruiser, (Hey Diana) ended up being built more like an Assassin.