Pls nerf Caitlins trap arm timers Riot

GankLord··48 votes·1,422 views

She's way too oppressive and safe in lane with her traps. If you're going to give her good range, damage, self peel, and lane control nerf her safety please and thank you. Either nerf the arm timer or change the root into a slow.

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Captain Aishi12 votes

or revert the ability back to a 10 second cooldown instead of this absolutely terrible idea of a charge system

JhomasTefferson6 votes

or take away the free headshot with bonus range, or make them triggered by minions, or make them targetable by towers only. any 1 of those things would solve almost all gripes about cait as a champ.

cnfqkf1 votes

Just curious, why do many people think minions triggering Caitlyn traps would help anything?

I can't think of many optimal trap placements that involve being in the minion line, this would do literally nothing to any good Caitlyn player that doesn't spam traps in any spot.

50000000000000001 votes

I'm guessing it's because that will allow opponents to walk through the line of traps (although through a choke point), or manipulate minions using creep block to proc traps with minions.

cnfqkf1 votes

You can't block minions anymore, that was removed to prevent blocking your own wave to get a favorable lane position.

There's no other reason for that to exist, no good Caitlyn player puts traps in the minion line. They already attempt to lock you into only walking on your minion lane, allowing for far few safer positions to cs or trade from.

50000000000000001 votes

Really? I can still do that, though. It's much more minor than before, but it's still there.

sobi9991 votes

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Just curious, why do many people think minions triggering Caitlyn traps would help anything?

I can't think of many optimal trap placements that involve being in the minion line, this would do literally nothing to any good Caitlyn player that doesn't spam traps in any spot.

That's because caitlyn is not broken. She just has an easy time in lane and prevents the opponent from farming, even under its own turret. If minions could trigger the traps then the situation under the turret will be less dire and she will not be affected much by it as well. We do not want her to become weak but we also don't want her to be as oppressive as she is in lane. Its a bit like blitzcrank but he really sucks in team fights so that makes up for it. I don't really see cait being too weak in any situation tbh.

GankLord1 votes

I'm fine with this but something needs to be done. You can't really get mad at your bot laners if they're opponent is a caitlin with any support with hard cc. You get caught once by the supports cc and your pretty much dead because caitlin immediately follows up with a trap after the cc and it arms and she gets more damage and because of her range she's safe from serious harm. I don't know any other champion (With the exception of heimdinger) that dictates where you must move in lane constantly or be severely punished.

Tobias Brackner5 votes

He traps already have a long ass time to arm. If she places one at your feet and you get caught that's your own fault.

General Esdeath 2 votes

You with your bad bait again?

Tobias Brackner2 votes

Bait?

Time it yourself. There are plenty of videos of Caitlyn laying traps. You can time how long it takes and then calculate the base move speed of characters. Don't be afraid of the truth, go out and prove yourself wrong.

General Esdeath 1 votes

You can't fool me again, I remember the last time you tried to bait me in.

Tobias Brackner1 votes

Fool? Bait? Dude you have the power to understand how the game works. If you want to continue to live in ignorance and randomly complain then feel free.

BigBellBrute2 votes

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He traps already have a long ass time to arm. If she places one at your feet and you get caught that's your own fault.

1.2 seconds is not a "long ass" amount of time. Most mini stuns in the game are long enough for her to arm it under you.

Tobias Brackner1 votes

1.2 seconds is a long ass amount of time. Play more League of Legends, you can feel it. If you don't believe me look up how long Stuns and roots tend to last.

I don't know why you are complaining about the ability for other champions to cover each other's weaknesses. It sounds like something that we would celebrate seeing other people pull off. (Also most mini stuns in the game also have slow activation, not sure if you've noticed that).

Sukishoo5 votes

They need to nerf the time they stay on the ground.

doiminat0r36001 votes

But the time it's on the ground is 90 seconds. And a max of 3-5 at a time.

Sukishoo1 votes

Which is a Minute and 30 seconds. They don't need to be up that long as that is a major part of what makes her very oppressive. They should cut it to 60 seconds or less.

doiminat0r36001 votes

But she can only have up to 5 at a time. They even have such a small radius of effectiveness (62.5 units) that most champions can just walk around it.

Unlucky472 votes

LOL riot hasn't done anything about cait for half a year now there's no way they're fixing her soon. I mean, just recently, they buffed half the adc roster to make cait seem not as bad.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

the easiest cc abiility in the game to chain stun with other cc. because every mini stun in the game is enough for it to arm under you

pretty bullshit.

Tobias Brackner1 votes

We should celebrate these opportunities to reward strong coordination, not look to get rid of them.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Just let us kill them with sweeper like Teemo shrooms or Shaco W or let minions trigger them so she can't just put a straight line to keep me from walking to lane without getting shot

Angrychickén2 votes

Ooh, ooh!

I can make a champion sound hugely over powered as well!

He is too safe in all phases of the game, with a short coo down dash, sometimes even two!

He has a movement steroid, and can do huge damage with his ultamite, which is on a under ten second cooldown! UNFAIR!

He also has a nuke on his q, which is too easy to hit!

His e is also an armor shred and punishes anyone who tries to fight him!

......It's Corki.

ShadowParker2 votes

She doesn't need nerfs. Doenvote me Caitlyn mains, but the truth is her traps are fair.

If Her traps should be nerfed, it should be placement range, nothing else.

Imperial Japan1 votes

It's part of her mechanic so I doubt they'll change that

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