Yeah totally just off meta

ForFoxSakes·Sep 26, 2017·30 votes·1,929 views

How can people even defend these as "off meta" bullshit http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2606650501/38315864?tab=overview

All 3 in a premade Singed - builds then 3rd item / while split pushing solo AKA just running into the enemy over and over to get caught MF - rush then and last item Support Nasus leveling up E spam with no support item and goes and deliberately doesnt take a keystone

Enemy team all defended them and flamed the mid Syndra the entire game. Singed the highest rank of the premade yet deliberate feeding and trolling with a 20% winrate, how are they still around and not punished yet

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EedatSep 26, 201737 votes

It's all from that Smite Support Singed debacle. The entire community crucified Riot for banning the guy for "playing off-meta" when in reality if anyone actually took the time to look the guy legit inted every other game with shit like 1/11/2 0/9/3 etc. Now we get people like these that can int all they want because we forced Riot to change their algorithms for catching these "off-meta" players.

You can than this wonderful community that it takes MUCH longer for these intentional feeders to get banned.

As for the enemy team defending them it's because this community is trash. If they're on the other team they just want their free win. But they'll be the first to cry a fucking river when it's on their team. They're is absolutely zero empathy and there level of selfishness is through the roof

KloqdqSep 26, 20176 votes

I mean that's just blatantly false. That guy was actually using a legitimate strategy to win games and he was winning games. Doesn't matter if you go 0/20/0 or 20/0/0 he was still winning and he made it very clear to his team what he was planning to do. There is also a clear difference between using an off-meta gameplays and a guy clearly int'ing.

It took just about as long to caught intentional feeders because if you are going 0/20/0 in multiple games you will be getting reported by your team mates. Then Riot will start throwing out bans and the player can argue against it. Like it always has been.

As for the enemy team defending them it's because this community is trash. If they're on the other team they just want their free win. But they'll be the first to cry a fucking river when it's on their team. They're is absolutely zero empathy and there level of selfishness is through the roof

It happens (I can't honestly remember the last time I saw this) but you report and move on. This shit happens and you know you'd take that free LP too if you had that happen. This is league of legends. We take those. Doesn't mean we don't report it so we don't get that in the future.

FairyfleurSep 27, 201711 votes

He didn't communicate; he posted a block of text in the chat and whether or not his team agreed he went through with it.

Chembaron YamadaSep 27, 20174 votes

Not to mention that he was literally demanding from the other players to all adjust their playstyle to his own, while being extremely unflexible on his own because "but my playstyle!".

I remember a video I saw from him streaming. He was doing his counter jungling thing (taking farm from his own jungler as well) and leaving his ADC alone at bot lane. Then the announcer said that his ally (the ADC) got killed. His reaction?

"I told that guy he should have taken Caitlyn! He has to play an ADC which is able to defend himself alone against 2 in bot lane!" But when he got told to please not to use his "strategy", he was just "I don't care, I told you guys what I'm going to do, so adjust to it".

FairyfleurSep 27, 20174 votes

It makes me think that the people defending him had only found out from biased sources or just from people who didn't have the whole story. It's stupid that the whole thing was tagged as off-meta when it was more the player refusing to communicate with his team.

KloqdqSep 27, 20171 votes

Source please.

nice tableSep 26, 20176 votes

yeah kind of like proxy singed players were inting their ass off every game with shit like 1/11/2 0/9/3 etc right? they still won games and played better than 99% of the player base so i don't see where the "trolling" took place?

Kirius DarkSep 27, 20171 votes

So if I hard int and troll a game yet my team is able to still hard carry to a win, that makes it ok?

nice tableSep 27, 20171 votes

if you have a 55% win ratio in diamond after 900 games of "hard inting" it's not your team carrying its you playing well.

EschetonSep 26, 20177 votes

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It's all from that Smite Support Singed debacle. The entire community crucified Riot for banning the guy for "playing off-meta" when in reality if anyone actually took the time to look the guy legit inted every other game with shit like 1/11/2 0/9/3 etc. Now we get people like these that can int all they want because we forced Riot to change their algorithms for catching these "off-meta" players.

You can than this wonderful community that it takes MUCH longer for these intentional feeders to get banned.

As for the enemy team defending them it's because this community is trash. If they're on the other team they just want their free win. But they'll be the first to cry a fucking river when it's on their team. They're is absolutely zero empathy and there level of selfishness is through the roof

If I can draw 3 people top as Singed so we get a free dragon and our choice of wave/respawn management bot/mid/jungle. My death is worth it. That is the name of the game. Favorable trades. Inting is Intentional Feeding. Aka, giving the enemy kill gold without getting anything in return. You can be 0/100/0 as long as your deaths had a clear purpose and goal in mind. Remember, a nice KDA doesn't secure a win, killing the nexus does.

TehNACHOSep 26, 201711 votes

Okay great, except that's not what the Singed Support player did at the time. Counterjungling his own Jungler and abandoning the ADC without warning are not strategies of success, just selfishness.

Jet SettSep 26, 20174 votes

The problem with the Singed guy was him not communicating his strategy with his team and leaving the ADC by themself with no effort to convey the message other than one copy paste text that he wouldn't negotiate.

NaymlissSep 26, 20173 votes

To be fair, it is a normal game, so people should be able to try whatever the heck they want.

ForFoxSakesSep 26, 201710 votes

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To be fair, it is a normal game, so people should be able to try whatever the heck they want.

Honestly even if they buy a less optimal item and are trying then sure whatever no prob, but they're literally buying some of the worst items they can possibly get here. AD to boost the few autos singed actually does, while getting MR against GP. Then relic shield which he cant even proc while shoving in solo with no allies nearby. Ya ok, keep defending that

No AD built on MF then 2 totally deadweight items with the support item being the last thing built.... oook. Some AP scaling on E for lich bane, amazing right

Then lethality and straight AD for Nasus. Also no keystone build is totally something people should be trying to see if it's good right?

EschetonSep 26, 20173 votes

Clearly they are playing infinite bravery or some other build randomizer. 3 man in a premade means its likely a normal. A mode with the express purpose of having less win/loss pressure and intended for fun. Now, you should still try to win. And any bravery randomizer you use is best used as a 5-man so you dont upset team-mates. But still. Bad builds aren't punishable. Long as you actually try to win with them.

chipndip1Sep 26, 20172 votes

It's a norm, you try hard. It's your fault for caring about the result of the match.

#KAPPA

Pommel KnightSep 27, 20172 votes

http://www.ultimate-bravery.com/

No you just don't know what this is.

ForFoxSakesSep 27, 20172 votes

I do know what it is and it's fine if everyone on both sides is playing it, not half a premade team just straight fucking trolling everyone who isnt in it and doesnt want it

FloupiSep 26, 20171 votes

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ForFoxSakesSep 26, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Squishy Support,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zfFcz6kX,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-26T20:01:32.570+0000)

Yeah troll builds are fine but the ones you mentioned make no sense it's just not fun

??? Vi does build item 3078 in most games :/

Asayake 5150glowSep 26, 20171 votes

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??? Vi does build in most games :/

(it's just the example core)

z63XnLCMwXSep 26, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Squishy Support,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zfFcz6kX,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-26T20:01:32.570+0000)

Yeah troll builds are fine but the ones you mentioned make no sense it's just not fun

How is it troll when her W is %hp damage that scales off AD. It's not optimal, but in a 1v1 slug fest she would outduel most duelist.

OverpoweredSoapSep 26, 20171 votes

Sounds like bronze bravery to me tbh.

Not that it makes it ok.

Ambient SnowSep 26, 20171 votes

Easily.

Its the end of the seasons.. people have already gotten their Gold rewards secured.

now they hop on smurfs and troll

This happens "EVERY" year.. at this time.

that's why people say.

if you want to rank up in ranked.. Do it early and mid season once it gets to worlds you're SOL

KazukesSep 26, 20171 votes

Yea I remember one day I was grouped with a 4 man premade as support and things in lane/ general were going pretty well. Then at some point I realized our jhin had literally purchased 0 attack damage items and only bought items that built out of zeal, but I was like "i'm sure he'll atleast get an infinity edge." then he was like nope I'm testing a new build attack speed only.

The game felt like a huge waste to me when I realized I was stuck with a premade pulling bs like this. Reported him after game, I mean if that singed sup can be banned for having smite then maybe riot could get that jhin for being the bot lane carry and building 0 damage.

I distinctly remember late game he shot cassiopeia about 6-8 times before he died (she lived with hp to spare) the only thing that gimick of a build did was move fast it was such a waste of my time when there was no chance of victory with 1 of the 2 damage dealers building like this.