Lethality Boots

Emo Twink·Oct 19, 2018·8 votes·3,617 views

Here me out. To make Lethality users slightly more healthy to go against, especially as mages/champs with crowd control Mid lane, we include lethality boots to match Sorc boots, BUT we take the lethality for it out of the current selection of lethality items. This would be so much more healthier as an AD assassin can't just rush merc treads against something like a Lux or someone who relies heavily on that CC to land a complete combo, and have to make the same choice AP champions in the same lane do: choose the one other source of mpen in items, or some more safety.

A Zed or something can go both mercs and hexdrinker while not being behind, but this change would mean he would only choose to get just one of those.

Any thoughts about this?

18 Comments

Drakath2002Oct 19, 20184 votes

Basically your saying we take out the lethality out of one of these items item 3147 item 3142 item 3814 and put it on A new boot?

Like how Mages only have item 3165 and item 3135 as proper magic pen items and have to buy item 3020 for more magic pen?

as a mage main im fine with this as long as DuskBlade loses the lethality

MimlanOct 19, 20183 votes

This i a very interesting idea and I think it could be good. It could make it more fair

BrightWîngsOct 19, 20183 votes

oh and the art for it would be like a boot knife or something that would be interesting

TheMysticWarOct 19, 20183 votes

imo they should do this and maybe remove item 3147 give AD to the other items or compensation buff theusers And they should remove item 3111 from Zed recommended items for item 3158 so players with brain buy mercs and retards buy ionian. Trust me some people would buy ionian

Emo TwinkOct 20, 20181 votes

Yea, all are good options in addition :D

five oh tree Oct 19, 20182 votes

giving assassins tier 2 boots that also double as extra damage would be.. disastrous. That would mean they get movement speed earlier and still pack a punch, leading to easier roaming and snowballing. It sounds good on paper, but this would spike zed/talon/etc winrate up. It would also get taken on bruisers like lee sin and make their burst even more ridiculous.

Emo TwinkOct 20, 20181 votes

That's why lethality is to be lowered from lethality items though. Even it out a bit. Brusiers may use it but since they need to be a bit tanky, unlike assassins, it's doubtful theyll opt to use it when mercs are extremely useful (which is why i want lethality boots, so AD assassins stop buying it).

Beatrice fallsOct 19, 20182 votes

I totally agree, but as stated above, it would need to hardly tune down lethality on other AD items

Emo TwinkOct 21, 20181 votes

Hardly tune yes, but still it should take lethality from other ones. There is the case of most building only dusk and youmuus, but duskblade was buffed to have more lethality than the others so taking lethality from that and youmuus would even it out since edge is situational.

warpenguin555Oct 20, 20182 votes

That would be pretty sweet. AD assassins would then have to choose between surviving mage burst item 3111 or more damage (New boots)

Emo TwinkOct 20, 20181 votes

Not like itll make a difference once they get a hexdrinker but hexdrinker and mercs really cancels out a mage for a while.

feintfiendOct 19, 20181 votes

Don't do this assasins need some sort of tenacity to kill mages since mages have the range and CC advantage and assasins have to close the gap. The mage player fucked up if they let the assasin safely get in melee range and should be punished.

Emo TwinkOct 20, 20182 votes

The Assassin fucked up if he gets hit by crowd control, and shouldnt be able to have a bit more leeway cuz he builds merc treads. Hexdrinker screws up damage enough, merc treads just makes the whole combos harder to hit.

GG Thanks For LPOct 20, 20181 votes

I dont understand why people are still complaining about Lethality when they have already nerfed it. Last season you could take 24 lethality in runes and another lethality from Masteries. Youd get about 97 lethality if you built full lethality, now you get like 67 i think.

Emo TwinkOct 20, 20182 votes

Hi :D There's a few reasons.

More damage from new runes compared to old runes. Any damage from new runes (electrocute etc) also has lethality applied to it too.
Less defenses in new runes. What does lethality do best? Destroy people with minimal armor, and there is less nowadays.
The moment an AD assassin gets a serrated dirk or lethality item, it's extremely easy to kill a mage 100 to 0 considering most will have abilities to jump onto them. If a mage crowd controls them, they should be safe right?

Merc treads are effective against the amounts of tank crowd control but they can screw over any mage with only a little bit. MR is also extremely strong so an AD assassin can 100 to 0 with a little bit of lethality while managing to withstand the damage a mage is trying to do while attempting to survive. But, opting into assassin boots would mean they have less defenses and no tenacity, which is the main screw over with those boots as a mage.

I hope that helps :D

GG Thanks For LPOct 20, 20181 votes

Mages can just build item 3157 item 3027 item 3047 item 3151 item 3116 item 3165 and be able to stand against assassins easy. Mages tend to think they dont need to counter build because theyre just going to poke. But I guarantee you if you spent one day in high elo, youd find people building health/armor against lethality users. Making the lethality user completely useless and unable to even do anything against them.

Rengar for example, build 1 Frozen heart and a black cleaver and he wont be able to 1v1 you even when hes fed. Zed, one frozen heart. Mages, Rod + Zhonyas + Tabis and youd be good to go. You get health and armor, you wont have to worry about dying in 1 second. "But im a mage, i dont build tabis :(", then stick to your normal build and keep losing to lethality users. Riot isnt going to nerf lethality because if they did, then assassins would literally be useless. Why do you think bruisers are so good right now? Its because is a burst meta, but bruisers build health/armor/damage, so theyre taking little to no damage but able to dish out high damage.