The Mordekaiser R AI "fixes" actually broke his clones altogether

Malicious Metal·Sep 9, 2016·85 votes·2,852 views

Ever since the supposed AI changes Mordekaiser's clones have become even dumber than before. They don't take commands seriously, attacking minions over towers and champions, outright refusing to attack structures and often just backtracking to Morde instead of fighting some foes.

Hell, I could deal with the occasional AI derps from last patch but these clones seriously need some fixes, it outright breaks him as his clones take up a ton of his power budget and can decide fights on their own.

Sooo, Riot pls?

41 Comments

MordepoolSep 9, 201627 votes

"Death is no excuse for disobedience"

bill84Sep 9, 201624 votes

It's because of the new Yorick release. He is causing the spirits to fight to try to cleanse the shadow isles of evil like Morde.

Velzard of KozSep 9, 20162 votes

No, that's because he uses the ulty on ADCs. Use it on Support and the I in AI of the clone is suddenly boosted by 200%. #mandatorykappa #iloveyouADCsyouknowit

RalanrSep 9, 201613 votes

So what you're saying is...they are rebeling?

Malicious MetalSep 9, 20163 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE45qZv0JAg Revolution in their minds!

AramsAreBestSep 9, 20161 votes

Why does morde suck at carrying in low Elo.

LasslowSep 9, 20164 votes

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Why does morde suck at carrying in low Elo.

He doesn't.

What Is SmiteSep 9, 20161 votes

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He doesn't.

That is True, Top Lane Morde is a huge bully and dominates his laner while Jungle Morde is really objective controlled taking as many dragons to push the game to a quick end

AramsAreBestSep 9, 20161 votes

The problem is a fed morde has no initiation.

RalanrSep 9, 20161 votes

...that's kinda the point.

AramsAreBestSep 9, 20161 votes

So then how do you carry as morde in low Elo.

RalanrSep 9, 20161 votes

By having someone else on your team initiate the fights?

AramsAreBestSep 9, 20161 votes

You can't trust people to do that in low Elo

RalanrSep 9, 20161 votes

If there is one thing you can trust in low Elo, it's the bloodlust of people who want kills and are willing to do anything to get them.

So yes. You can trust someone to make an engage. Just not always a great one. But if you're fed then you might have a decent chance regardless.

GULAG 4 USep 9, 20161 votes

Bro, flash+protobelt and wreck face xD

Count ZubatSep 9, 20163 votes

Abuse people's mistakes. You see somebody alone? Go kill him. Somebody facechecks the bush? You kill him. Somebody badly initiates? You kill him. Also, in low elo having no initation isn't as much of the problem, you can go for the flank or something. Or you can just go splitpushing.

AramsAreBestSep 9, 20161 votes

The problem with split pushing is you will get 5 people attack you for a minute but your team is busy doing gromp

Count ZubatSep 9, 20162 votes

You have to choose right time for that. See 4 people on bot? Push the shit out of top lane.

Hail KaiserSep 9, 20167 votes

And while your at it, fix the bug that causes his autos and abilities to do no damage after he activates the 2nd cast on his W. I mean its only been reported for months and should be pretty easy to replicate since it happens EVERY TIME!

General LeviSep 10, 20161 votes

wait what

NilokSep 9, 20166 votes

Minion problems?

Know our pain! Malzahar

Velzard of KozSep 9, 20162 votes

Velkoz This is why I disintegrate everyone. They can't say No when they are in milions of little particles.

Friendly RamSep 9, 20162 votes

Kindred Are you quite done yet?

Velzard of KozSep 9, 20162 votes

Velkoz Mom I swear this one will be the last one. It's important for my homework.

GULAG 4 USep 9, 20165 votes

Agreed. These shits are running it down into the tower for no reason, doesn't follow orders, and do jackshit. Fix this please riot.

SlntReaperSep 9, 20161 votes

Aren't those called "feeders"? Like me?

GULAG 4 USep 9, 20161 votes

No it's called me when I play kassadin T_T

Sona x RubickSep 9, 20163 votes

I just want the clones to keep their damn orders, so i don't need to press R a billion of time

like i if i press R+right click on a target, i just want them to continue to do it and not turn back to something else/stop walking.

Wukong X AhriSep 9, 20163 votes

Yeah its got to the point where I stopped playing him till its fixed...

Shit cost me a game.

The DeckownerSep 9, 20162 votes

I think the AI is as fucked up as Yorick's ult AI, maybe a little more.

btw aren't those ghosts slaves and puppets for morde?

MunchCrunchLunchSep 9, 20162 votes

i've seen multiple clonses just afk standing there.

Backup4nowSep 9, 20162 votes

I really hate how the clone immediately chases after the nearest tower or champion upon spawning, even if the target isn't anywhere near you, making it so I have to pay close attention in skirmishes else I'll lose the ghost in its 1v1 with the tower. Often, the ghost will not accept orders at all and you have to click on the ground to get it to pay attention and then it starts working again. Often it will never switch targets in the middle of a fight from your commands.

The only improvement i've noticed is that, when it's actually chasing someone, its ai doesn't just disappear when the target enters a bush, it actually walks into the bush to try and get sight again.

RogueWillSep 10, 20161 votes

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I really hate how the clone immediately chases after the nearest tower or champion upon spawning, even if the target isn't anywhere near you, making it so I have to pay close attention in skirmishes else I'll lose the ghost in its 1v1 with the tower. Often, the ghost will not accept orders at all and you have to click on the ground to get it to pay attention and then it starts working again. Often it will never switch targets in the middle of a fight from your commands.

The only improvement i've noticed is that, when it's actually chasing someone, its ai doesn't just disappear when the target enters a bush, it actually walks into the bush to try and get sight again.

that bugfix was for tibbers thou, they probably just copy and pasted some of tibbers code into the clones that woudl explain a lot of the bugs since there are times when tibbers is no controlable (when enraged he will attack stunned targets which can make him lose track of his original target making 2v1 quite more challleging) but in his case it is intended

Rinky DinkySep 9, 20161 votes

I havent had any issues with any ghosts other than Dragon.

DrahcirSep 9, 20161 votes

Inb4 "that's a Feature"

La BarbotteSep 9, 20161 votes

Yorick at least yours obey :'( once the mark is gone im not the shepard of the souls im their bitch

MordepoolSep 9, 20161 votes

The attempt to fix was there. Riot should be on it sokn enough id hope

xelakerSep 9, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zbnbqEy5,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-09-09T00:03:10.695+0000)

Ever since the supposed AI changes Mordekaiser's clones have become even dumber than before. They don't take commands seriously, attacking minions over towers and champions, outright refusing to attack structures and often just backtracking to Morde instead of fighting some foes.

Hell, I could deal with the occasional AI derps from last patch but these clones seriously need some fixes, it outright breaks him as his clones take up a ton of his power budget and can decide fights on their own.

Sooo, Riot pls?

but it doesn't bother the pros guys. riot wont fix this until mord is popular again.