Do Stattik and Rapidfire Cannon still deal both of their passives damage?

69469238DEL1·Dec 23, 2015·2 votes·879 views

I tried a google search and couldn't find anything, it would be a great help if someone could drop me that knowledge, thanks!

14 Comments

AgentBlackDec 23, 20154 votes

If they activate at the same time, only the highest damaging of the two activates. So, if you charge Stattik and RFC and hit somebody with a long range attack, it will probably just deal Stattik's damage, because it's higher.

69469238DEL1Dec 23, 20151 votes

oh okay thanks man, although this leaves me with another question, what is the preferred attack speed item on auto attack ADC's now?

Flyer BeastDec 23, 20153 votes

Vayne Twitch and short range adcs who are usually in combat take item 3046 . Poking adcs like Caitlyn use item 3094 . Others take item 3087 or item 3085

Sire HippingtonDec 23, 20151 votes

that depends on what you want to do as adc. Want superior dueling with better 1v1 dps and some damagereduction? item 3046 Feel like you want some more waveclear, or some more burst? item 3087 Want better poke and mostly better ways to chip away on towers? item 3094 Want to deal bigger overall dps in teamfights? item 3085

It simply depends on the situation and teamcomp.

Flyer BeastDec 23, 20151 votes

item 3094 's single target damage is higher. so the primary target takes that damage and beside it is item 3087 's effect.

ErockandrollDec 23, 20151 votes

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's single target damage is higher. so the primary target takes that damage and beside it is 's effect.

I some what question how that's calculated. Yes rapid fire does have more normal damage than Shiv, but Shiv's damage can critically strike. does the system check for which does the most damage before, or after the crit is applied.

Despite the lack of damage stacking, the utility form both items remain, and the energy passive isn't unique. So getting both items may still be a viable strat. (but not as Broken as it use to be.)

Flyer BeastDec 23, 20152 votes

Getting both items is completely fine. Completely forgot about the item 3087 crit, with item 3031 thatd do more than item 3094 so then would apply.

LaoBushidoDec 23, 20154 votes

Not any more the higher of the 2 will be applied, how ever their indivisible affect will still proc such as rfc on towers and the splash for sc check the last patch notes for more details

69469238DEL1Dec 23, 20151 votes

ah ok, I'll hunt down the patch notes, dont know why they didnt show up on google

LaoBushidoDec 23, 20152 votes

Damage from Kircheis Shard, Statikk Shiv and Rapid Firecannon no longer stack (effects still do).

As sweet as it is to chain-lightning from a million range, it’s clear that the damage from that combination is too high for the safety. We’re keeping the ability for you to stack the effects (because long-range lightning is awesome), but it’ll only take the highest damage of your combined effects to reduce their surprise burst potential.

CHOOSE IT OR LOSE IT Now chooses the greatest damage of your Energized attacks for the first target hit, rather than all the damage.

khorneyDec 23, 20151 votes

they should . differnet unique passives

69469238DEL1Dec 23, 20151 votes

yet strangely enough they dont, i checked the patch notes

khorneyDec 23, 20151 votes

im not seeing anything in the pacth notes and so what if they do . there is a huge open window and they have a "cd"

Flyer BeastDec 23, 20151 votes

If you have item 3087 , It will deal it's damage on to the main target and targets beside. If you have item 3094 , It will deal it's damage to the one target. IF YOU HAVE BOTH , THE MAIN TARGET WILL TAKE THE DAMAGE FROM RAPID FIRECANNON ONLY, AND THE TARGETS BESIDE IT WILL TAKE THE DAMAGE FROM STATTIK SHIV ONLY (as only stattik shiv would affect these units).