There are no limits put on new champs

FireDrizzle·Dec 30, 2018·4 votes·1,555 views

Even aside from releasing shit like a blitzcrank with dashes, Rengar ult and better Darius ult, a new champ will also have no limits put on what their abilities do.

Every new ability like Q has too be practically global range .

Can't extend E range with flash but doing that with her E is ok'd. Camille "counters mobility" by deleting you form screens away if you cant dash or move 500ms.

ult is Nunu ult but with CC immunity

I saw a youtube video on what can do with flash and zhonyas on her release and it was just insane.

10 Comments

MoonscourgeDec 30, 20184 votes

Akali Dash isn't even that far, so idk what you're on about. How is having dashes unfair or bad? They have other drawbacks. Neeko ult has good ratio, base damage and she can move around with it before the last 1.5 seconds, but you can also just walk out of it once she does that, easily, whereas Nunu R would slow you to hell and back if you don't have a CC ready at that point. It's a bad faith argument to talk about what champs can do with Flash, Flash has a 5 minute cooldown, if they use it for one "cheesy trick" then it's whatever. High risk high reward on missing or hitting it.

FireDrizzleDec 30, 20182 votes

"Akali Dash isn't even that far, so idk what you're on about." Compared too what? Pantheon ult?

"hey have other drawbacks." What drawback does Akali's ability have too Lee sin Q?[sg-ezreal] You wont see Akali casting another ability or flashing too gain that follow like Lee may have too.

" High risk high reward on missing or hitting it." You know Cam E flash cant miss, right?

D357R0Y3RDec 30, 20182 votes

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What drawback does Akali's ability have too Lee sin Q?

? you compare kits as a whole not only one spell

don't make it sound like akali's kit has no drawbacks when the champ takes 5 sec to kill unlike other assassins, and has a shit laning presence before lvl 6 when Zed can kill you at lvl 3 and talon can kill you at lvl 2.

HotarµDec 30, 20183 votes

"Akali Dash isn't even that far, so idk what you're on about."

He's right, though. Akali's Shuriken is 650 units. That's much shorter than most projectile abilities in the game and it's travel time isn't instantaneous, it can be dodged.

Akali also has less mobility than before her rework. Old Akali had 3 dashes and a small leap with her shroud, new Akali has 3 if she hits her shuriken and pops her ult which is way less readily available than before.

I don't like new Akali that much but your post has some heavy exaggerations.

FireDrizzleDec 30, 20182 votes

Lee sin Q recast has a relatively small range, should be obvious what i meant from my last post.

HotarµDec 30, 20181 votes

The ability itself has got nearly double the range of Akali's Shuriken and the recast range is still decent at about 800-1,000 units.

Akali's dash has the same properties of Vi's ultimate, Thresh's recast of Death sentence, Warwick's Hungering Strike (bite? idk) and Leona's Zenith Blade.

So no, I don't understand what you're getting at. Akali's Shuriken is probably the least oppressive and least overbearing part of her kit.

FireDrizzleDec 30, 20181 votes

The recast range is tuny compared too Akalis

"Akali also has less mobility than before her rework. Old Akali had 3 dashes and a small leap with her shroud, new Akali has 3 if she hits her shuriken and pops her ult which is way less readily available than before. "

I couldnt answert this because I was in a Smite game queue but Akali has 2 dashes with ult and 2 with shuriken itself.

MoonscourgeDec 31, 20181 votes

Her ult range is shit and her E requires her to have hit you beforehand, super short range and telegraphed as fuck. You always know it's coming and you can easily dodge it. It's not on demand.

Old Akali had a 700 range point and click ability with virtually no cooldown at all that meant she could just chase and catch you 100% of the time. Similar to what Kassadin does once he gets rolling.

Akali has the drawback of being extremely low ranged, having very high energy costs early on and having no real mobility. Seriously. Her E has like 16 seconds cooldown until she starts putting points into it and that's god awful. Her Q is short ranged and she can use it a maximum of 2 times before sitting there unable to do anything. If she drops W she can use it one additional time, but that means she won't have shroud in the next 10 seconds after it expired and no way of aggressing you.

Seriously, I played a ton of Akali. People lose their brains once she uses W, they walk INTO it, allow her to Q auto them and Q them again before they get out. It's these people who will rightfully lose 60% of their HP for doing that who then come to the forums or reddit to leave these steaming piles of shit they call posts.

NhifuDec 30, 20182 votes

Akali 100-0's squishies even if shes 0-3 with a gunblade and ignite.

She restealthes fast enough that you can't even auto attack back.

Oh you thought you caught her? She has a dash and ult to move too on top of derp easy waveclear with no costs.

MoonscourgeDec 31, 20182 votes

That's not true. She can't 1v1 anybody who is 3 kills ahead of her unless they absolutely suck or get caught after using their ults or whatever. If she jumps a 0 kill ADC at 15 minutes then she might kill them in a 1v1.

Unless you don't have any reflexes at all the restealth is enough for 1 or even 2 autos. Even before they nerfed it. Her dash has a tiny range, it's like twice of Aatrox E lmao. Her ult has over 2 minutes of cooldown, if she uses it to get away and you can't win after that you're trash.

Easy waveclear? Once she has a full item, maybe. Her Q costs so much energy she can only use it twice before not being able to use it for a full 10 seconds, at that stage it doesn't even deal damage. She has to walk into melee minions to hit the backline, or stand between melee and casters to hit them, meaning she is an easy target for any harass coming from you. If she uses W, you back off and capitalize on her extremely long cooldown on it. At least 12 seconds where she can't do anything against you. Plus, she has to drop her W in her combo to get another Q cast she couldn't get before, so it's even worse for her to not have that skill ready.