Stop complaining about the Jinx buff

chipndip1·Jan 19, 2018·3 votes·493 views

Jinx needs it to be competitive with other hyper carries, which is why it was done. She's been the worst hyper carry for a long time, so it's about time it was changed.

19 Comments

Sahn UzalJan 19, 20184 votes

I don't think I've seen anyone claim Jinx can keep up with the other hyper carries, what I have seen people claim though, is that she shouldn't be buffed, rather the other hypercarries should be nerfed.

chipndip1Jan 19, 20183 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tidal Tyrant,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zRQctLFU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-19T16:57:24.580+0000)

I don't think I've seen anyone claim Jinx can keep up with the other hyper carries, what I have seen people claim though, is that she shouldn't be buffed, rather the other hypercarries should be nerfed.

Then you just make tanks super op because no one can hurt them when they hit their first power spike in tankiness. So you'd have to nerf all tanks AND hyper carries at the same time. Not the strongest argument to make.

AhristocatsJan 19, 20181 votes

No and No and No

even lucian who's garbage atm can kill a tank the only adc who can't is jhin due to kit issues

Jinx is viable, she has 50 % win rate she does not need a buff

and the same is viable for cait who has 46% win rate

those adcs are overwhelmed by incredibly busted adcs that are kog/twitch/trist/ezreal/vayne who are right now pick/ban in lck

chipndip1Jan 19, 20181 votes

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even lucian who's garbage atm can kill a tank the only adc who can't is jhin due to kit issues

Jhin can kill a tank just like any adc objectively can at this time. The point is that hyper carries are picked when you really want to deal with a tank, sacrificing early game power in order to deal with them better when they hit their powerspikes. With that said, Jinx is the worst hyper carry to actually pick, and has been for a long time, assuming we exclude the nonsense and baboonery of solo queue.

Jinx is viable, she has 50 % win rate she does not need a buff

Jinx isn't a competitive pick to other hyper carries. Like, she just isn't.

and the same is viable for cait who has 46% win rate

Cait actually had a Worlds appearance while being even weaker than she is right now. Jinx didn't, save one loss, in a meta full of hyper carries. Jinx isn't a competitive hyper carry pick, hence the changes. I made a large post on the topic earlier, but short, watered down posts are the only ones that get attention so I made this one.

those adcs are overwhelmed by incredibly busted adcs that are kog/twitch/trist/ezreal/vayne who are right now pick/ban in lck

See, the weird thing is, that for my favorite champs, there's always some weird "excuse" for why they sort of just never show up in pro play anymore. "Eh, it's not their meta." "Eh, everyone else is op." "Eh, they'll show up eventually." Maybe, just maybe, solo queue isn't exactly the end all, be all measure of if a champ's actually good or bad, and maybe, just maybe, Jinx actually has been struggling as a hyper carry ever since she was gutted, started from late season 5. I'm not saying she needs to have a massive win rate to be fixed. I'm saying that this specific change should be made, even if they nerf other parts of her kit afterwards. The lack of a proper steroid is a major part of her issue, anyway.

AhristocatsJan 19, 20181 votes

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Jhin can kill a tank just like any adc objectively can at this time.

Jinx is the worst hyper carry to actually pick,

because the others are broken as fuck

See, the weird thing is, that for my favorite champs, there's always some weird "excuse" for why they sort of just never show up in pro play anymore. "Eh, it's not their meta." "Eh, everyone else is op"

and? i'm sorry that you're unlucky dude

started from late season 5.

which explains her nerf in late season 6 XD

ok dude ok

chipndip1Jan 19, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=I am Rubick Sama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zRQctLFU,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-19T20:24:07.181+0000)

No

Yes. Jhin can build crit and pen like any other marksman. It's "harder" for him to get through tanks, but he can eventually get through tanks. It's a matter of efficiency, and he's the least efficient for it. Doesn't mean he can't.

because the others are broken as fuck

If you just "nerf them all" we go back to early game bullies being too strong, like the lethality days. Also, Ezreal is still a strong pick...so there's that I guess?

and? i'm sorry that you're unlucky dude

I'm saying it's a bullshit excuse at this point. Like legit bullshit.

which explains her nerf in late season 6 XD

STARTING in season 5.

AhristocatsJan 19, 20181 votes

crit jhin takes about 12 shots to kill a tank compare this to twitch who literally kills a tank in 4 seconds

you're literally making yourself unable to be taken seriously well played

chipndip1Jan 19, 20181 votes

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crit jhin takes about 12 shots to kill a tank compare this to twitch who literally kills a tank in 4 seconds

Twitch is designed to eventually eat through anyone. That's what hyper carries do. Jhin isn't one. You're comparing Jhin to a fed/late game Twitch and acting like it's a fair comparison.

greekvandaLJan 19, 20182 votes

SHUT THE FUCK UP. Other hyper carries need to be gutted to be on par with her. Even in her current form she is toxic with 3 items.

chipndip1Jan 19, 20182 votes

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SHUT THE FUCK UP. Other hyper carries need to be gutted to be on par with her. Even in her current form she is toxic with 3 items.

Hyper carries are supposed to be strong at 3+ items...

greekvandaLJan 19, 20181 votes

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Hyper carries are supposed to be strong at 3+ items...

Not when the enemy has 3 armor items.

chipndip1Jan 19, 20182 votes

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Not when the enemy has 3 armor items.

Yes...they are. Hyper carries scale harder than any other type of champ in the game. Who the hell cares what you have?

greekvandaLJan 19, 20181 votes

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Yes...they are. Hyper carries scale harder than any other type of champ in the game. Who the hell cares what you have?

lul not gonna bother communicating with you anymore. Move along.

AR URFJan 19, 20182 votes

These replies are why I don't talk to EUNE or EUW players. They use feelings over facts.

chipndip1Jan 19, 20181 votes

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These replies are why I don't talk to EUNE or EUW players. They use feelings over facts.

Gonna try to not be super divisive like that, but it's really sad when an EUNE Diamond player makes the claim that someone on 3 armor items should scale harder than a fucking hyper carry...

BigBonedCartmanJan 19, 20181 votes

you like anime?

chipndip1Jan 19, 20183 votes

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you like anime?

Yeah, and I also like an excess of belts.

RexxieeJan 19, 20181 votes

Everyone knows that, its juts rubick who has a hate boner for jinx.

He talks about on how jhin is "trash tier" even with his absurdly high pick rate for a champ that isnt even that great in the meta and that jinx is a "great" pick, yeah lets buff jhin and nerf everyone else so he can have a 52% pick rate again, never forget.