Garen's Q: Why is it full MS bonus all the time instead of "when moving toward enemy Champions"?

darkdill·Aug 26, 2015·8 votes·553 views

Don't you just hate it when Garen outruns you while escaping? Isn't he supposed to be the paragon of Demacians, who don't retreat? So why is he so good at running away?

IMO, to keep Garen as the slow-but-tough juggernaut, maybe he could afford to get less bonus MS from his Q when he doesn't run at an enemy Champion, kinda like Volibear. Why do this? Because then he's allowed to be a bit stronger due to weakened escape ability.

7 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWAug 26, 20154 votes

Sion Yells "COWAAAAAARD" when ulting away from an enemy, but Garen can't have full MS whenever he wants, huh.

AlljoyAug 26, 20154 votes

Isn't he supposed to be the paragon of Demacians, who don't retreat?

This made me chuckle for some reason because it reminded me of a teamfight we had with a Sion who ran away from it ult'ing while screaming, "COOWWAAARDSSS".

redniwediSAug 26, 20153 votes

In all honesty he doesn't have the tools to take a stand-and-fight attitude to every situation. Nasus can do that with his passive and stuff, but so long as Garen's main source of sustain is out of combat only his kit will need some way to get out of combat safely.

Critmaster GarenAug 26, 20152 votes

garen never runs away. he always runs towards the next villain.

just like sion. hes just attacking the enemy from another angle.

ErijianAug 26, 20151 votes

That's his only mobility ability and he requires getting out of combat to have his Passive work. It makes no sense for it to work that way.

He'll be fine after the MS nerfs hit; though most players will just run MS Quints and it'll be like it never happened. AD just doesn't matter as much early game as it used to.

355 starting Movement Speed OP

MarthianAug 26, 20151 votes

Not sure about Garen, but Udyr could use something similar. Stun and run is pretty ridiculous for an escape.

Sire HippingtonAug 26, 20151 votes

A tactical retreat is not the same as running away, if you think different, you should call to make his passive in-combat only rather than out of combat...

He doesn't have tenacity anymore, and soon even less ms total, if his Q can't get used for escape, he becomes** totally feast or femin**. It already has a longer cd when running away, as the cd starts either on AA, or after the bonus aa expires, and iof he runs away, he won't AA....