D5 0 LP player who has 35 kills 115 deaths over his last 15 games ends up on my team

Ben Sharpio·Aug 3, 2017·61 votes·4,148 views

and he is still allowed to play this game because he doesn't talk/say anything negative in chat.

This isn't a case of an intent feeder, this is a case of straight up being boosted and he will never be punished despite being reported in just about every game.

AVERAGING 5k damage per game. Cool

Edit to all the silver boards members that don't have to play with boosted D5 players:

stop making bs excuses as to why he is borderline inting, you could easily look at his profile and see that he is CLEARLY boosted. So stop saying "maybe he is just trolling cause he knows he cant climb any higher"(who the hell thinks like this?), "maybe hes just having a bad game". if you average 5k damage over15 games, playing CARRY champions, you are obviously fucking boosted.

You could also see the riven games that he was boosted on, averaging 10 + kills per game. Now all of a sudden he cannot function properly/make tp plays ect?

disgusting people

90 Comments

Finn Teh HumanAug 3, 201720 votes

I don't understand why people who are boosted and obviously can't play at a certain rank even play ranked o_O

ElikainAug 3, 201716 votes

The loading screen border is irrelevant, in my opinion. There are no better rewards for ranked players (above Gold which is the qualifying division for seasonal rewards) and only Challenger players get more. So unless you're that good, getting your friend to boost your sorry ass to higher tiers that you can't even keep because you don't play at that level is pointless to me. It's a waste of time and effort and the end result is you ruining games for other players who are at that level and you're still dropping down and in turn, trashing your ELO and making it harder for you to climb in the future.

Andrey0345Aug 3, 20171 votes

Challenger players get something better as seasonal rewards?

Dani El PezgloboAug 3, 20173 votes

this years they get a super cool jacket an a few minor gifts

ninjaroxasAug 3, 20179 votes

they get physical rewards

Glory ln DeathAug 3, 20172 votes

insert mandatory lenny face here

ElikainAug 4, 20171 votes

Yea, top challenger players get challenger jackets and as far as i've seen (from this season), special default recall animations (works for all champions, regardless of their skin). Perhaps there's more in store for them that Riot hasn't disclosed yet but still, a little bit of extra rewarwds is a given considering they're the top ranked players among millions.

Andrey0345Aug 4, 20171 votes

Well, I knew about jacket but I thought it was only for one season, wow, it's for each season from now on?

XonraAug 4, 20171 votes

You get a challenger Jacket (and I'd say getting noticed from pro players/teams is a pretty good potential reward).

JbelsAug 3, 20173 votes

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I don't understand why people who are boosted and obviously can't play at a certain rank even play ranked o_O

Because they assume that they are good. They think to themselves, if I could just get out of Bronze/Silver/Gold/Plat, I could carry myself to challenger. Little do they know that while the skill difference between Bronze, Silver, and Gold is negligible, the difference is significant between gold and plat, vast between plat and diamond, and incomprehensible between diamond and challenger.

God of SeasAug 3, 20179 votes

Next day he will end up on the enemy team and you wont even care for the free win. You only care and complain when you lose. That's hypocrisy.

Blakers1Aug 3, 201727 votes

And you are arrogant. You are assuming that the OP and everyone else playing the game is OK with someone intentionally ruining games through various means (in this case being boosted), which is simply not true. Yes, many players will go on their merry way when an enemy player loses the game for their team, but most of us do not get enjoyment from a handout.

The joy of league comes from the potential outplays and snowballing that comes from it. I can't stand getting a lead and being able to make plays on it for possibly the next 20 minutes and it's ruined by the enemy top laner running it down mid and then AFKing. Yes, in this scenario you'd benefit from this toxic person, but does it feel rewarding? No, it feels fucking horrible.

Trias000Aug 3, 20173 votes

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And you are arrogant. You are assuming that the OP and everyone else playing the game is OK with someone intentionally ruining games through various means (in this case being boosted), which is simply not true. Yes, many players will go on their merry way when an enemy player loses the game for their team, but most of us do not get enjoyment from a handout.

I have yet to witness someone complaining about a troll/feeder/afker on the enemy team.

EfficientDynamoAug 4, 20172 votes

I see it fairly often, especially when it is obvious. I certainly wouldn't call it rare.

XonraAug 4, 20172 votes

I've never seen it myself.

XonraAug 4, 20171 votes

I mean, he isn't wrong though sadly. If this idiot that he got matched with was on the other team, we would never see this thread. The guy does have a point here.

RacoonHunterAug 3, 20176 votes

That's riot for you.. You can look at the boards and riot will clearly ignore intentional trollers constantly destroy games if they don't talk during the game.

I mean, we're also talking about a company that will allow players to make offensive names like Little G** Udyr and not force them to change their name.

Blakers1Aug 3, 20175 votes

Funny enough, if you've ever played an Xbox or PlayStation those types of IGNs are usually given a forced rename within days to hours of being changed if used online.

Source: I have really filthy minded friends on Xbox. >_>

Glory ln DeathAug 3, 20173 votes

I must be too innocent and sheltered, because I have no idea what G** is supposed to mean...

EvanThomasAug 3, 20176 votes

Does he play support? :D

Ben SharpioAug 3, 20176 votes

he doesnt play ANY of the champions he was boosted with. Queues up as fill it seems. less support games. More top/mid/adc

SpookyNeedleAug 4, 20171 votes

Did his flash key change at all?

XonraAug 4, 20171 votes

If he is just playing fill, are you sure he was ONLY boosted, and isn't somewhat trolling as well (despite your small hissy fit in text elo shaming people for daring to make that claim)? If he is that rank, clearly boosted, you'd think he would then try to win. If he is only playing fill, then he might be losing some of these games on purpose.

devdev463Aug 3, 20175 votes

If he doesn't deserve the rank he is and continues to play ranked he will lose and fall until he's where he's supposed to be.

SweedishGunnerAug 3, 20174 votes

But how many more teams have to suffer until then?

Glory ln DeathAug 3, 20176 votes

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

TelosenAug 4, 20171 votes

A lot.

But his MMR will tank to his real rank pretty quickly, after about 15 losses in a row by my guess. After that point he will be playing with people he should be playing with and it's no longer a matter of inting. My friend was D5 with almost D4 MMR and after losing 8 games in a row his MMR had dropped down to Plat 3 and he actually demoted to P1 after another 6 losses.

XonraAug 4, 20171 votes

I mean you have to lose a LOT of games in a row to drop out of whatever 5. I've seen people go on like 7 game lose streaks in d5 and still be there. It really does take a lot, and not just for fresh to D5 players. I personally don't like that fact, and it is why people say Plat 5 and D5 are some of the scummiest places in League, cause people just don't care cause they don't have to near as much.

devdev463Aug 4, 20171 votes

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I mean you have to lose a LOT of games in a row to drop out of whatever 5. I've seen people go on like 7 game lose streaks in d5 and still be there. It really does take a lot, and not just for fresh to D5 players. I personally don't like that fact, and it is why people say Plat 5 and D5 are some of the scummiest places in League, cause people just don't care cause they don't have to near as much.

That just depends on what their mmr, as well as one other additional factor. When you get promoted to 5 whatever, for the next 20 games, you cannot go back down. However after this it depends on your mmr. You could lose 7 games and still be d5 but as soon as your mmr drops to plat from those loss streaks its bye bye diamond.

The reason people don't care anymore when they reach these is because for a lot of players diamond 5 is good enough, not because they don't have to worry about things like demotion. They have already proven themselves by getting to diamond and that's as high as they really care to go, so they stop trying as much. It is scummy to play ranked while you aren't trying to win though I agree.

ntbcoolAug 3, 20174 votes

its extremely hard for riot to ban boosted players, because they are basically just bad players, they don't troll or anything they are just bad. And tbh the ranking system will slowly match them with lower and lower ranked players and sooner or later will drop them out of diamond. I did see his match history, and he probably is boosted or something.

JESUSSAYSNOAug 4, 20171 votes

I mean sure, they aren't really trolling, but the impact of a boosted player is so negitive they might be. Boosting is against the ToS and is bannable too.

ntbcoolAug 4, 20171 votes

Thats true, but compared to a troll they have no control if they want to stay at the rank they are at or not. If they play they are gonna lose almost always and start falling, or they may just stop playing. You are right that they should be banned, but it really is hard for an automatic system to notice it.

DuskDaUmbreonAug 3, 20174 votes

And how many assists, and on which champion?

7 2/3 average deaths per game. Common on some supports, or on some tanks.

2 1/3 average kills per game. I see this a lot. Even as myself. As Sion, sometimes as Nasus (enemies tend to FF way too early to get a lot of kills), and as many supports.

Context matters, as does relativizing numbers. 115 deaths is a lot. 7-8 deaths/game isn't near as much.

Laughing FishAug 4, 20173 votes

Hey,

Because there is already a discussion going on here, I am going to leave this thread up. But for future reference, discussions dealing with in-game punishments (or in this case, lack of punishment) are better posted in the Player Behavior section. The gameplay section is specifically for discussions about the gameplay itself.

ElikainAug 3, 20172 votes

Well, he's not keeping his Diamond rank as he's losing a lot of games. Unless you're saying that he actually wins more games 4v5 as he's usually dead weight for his team. I know that's not the point of your comment but being boosted to a certain division you're not skilled enough to play in is irrelevant as you need to keep your standing or you'll drop passively. Even faster if you're losing a lot of games.

But you're talking about the ruined games because of an unskilled player as he's being put in a team and that team has more chances to lose as they're probably have to play in a 4v5 so i'm with you there.

Ben SharpioAug 3, 20171 votes

it isn"t a "4 v 5" when he's 0/10. It's 6v4. I dont even want to go into watching the replay of the game. He's just going to keep fucking up people's ranked games and people on the boards are making up ridiculous excuses as to why he's so fucking bad because a majority of the players on the boards do not have this problem

GayFluffyUnicornAug 3, 20171 votes

Just stop playing. After drooping from d2 promos to d4 again and failign to get through promos for the 5th time this week i just accept and realise this rank system as a whole is just one big fucking joke and has nothing to do with skill or competitiveness. 50% of diamond is boosted and nothing else. The rest is the matchmaking making sure you don't climb. There is just no sense in playing anymore if you don't have a duo to abuse the system with. Riot doesn't give two fucks about boosters, inters and trolls anyways.

Ben SharpioAug 3, 20171 votes

There is just no sense in playing anymore if you don't have a duo to abuse the system with. Riot doesn't give two fucks about boosters, inters and trolls anyways.

LMAO might be the truest thing said on this thread. You have these chinese boosters openly advertising in chat because nobody at riot cares, you have to duo queue to effectively climb, and games are decided by who has the most autofilled players but thats a different topic.

The guy did 3k damage in a 30 minute game, his match history is completely red, he doesnt play any of the champions he was boosted with, negative KDA, negative everything , yet theres still silver players on the boards somehow justifying this whole thing by saying "you can't be banned for being bad, hell drop passively so it doesnt matter ect" because theyve never had to play with boosted players and they dont even realize the skill difference in a non-boosted player and a boosted player. sad

ElikainAug 4, 20172 votes

yet theres still silver players on the boards somehow justifying this whole thing by saying "you can't be banned for being bad, hell drop passively so it doesnt matter ect"

I take offense at this part because it was my comment that said "they'll drop passively if they don't play or if they lose a lot, they'll drop even faster". As i'm not a Silver player but a last season's D4 player, i've had my fair share of frustrations as much as every other player has. If you believe Diamonds or even higher players don't face similar issues, you're wrong. But what you're saying can not be taken as a fact UNTIL the intent of the said player can be determined. And that is to sit down and examine chat logs, match history and stats of the said player.

The system is working as intended and it removes and punishes a lot of players that break these rules. Even Riot manually hands these out if the system doesn't pick it up but the reports keep coming to them. Some people slip through the cracks for sure but the amount of people you're talking about that break these rules is literally ~1% or even less. The people who avoid immediate punishment are even fewer in numbers. The sheer fact that you take it as a capital punishment when you get matched up with such a player is the reason why everyone keeps attacking Riot for "not doing their job" because every player that offends you isn't being immediately removed from the game.

I've had my fair share of problems with the same kinds of people. I've felt the same fury and rage when they intentionally troll my game and then waste my time completely. I've also felt like they were not being punished enough if these people immediately weren't getting dragged to their permanent bans after such offenses but in reality, there's never going to be a perfect system that can keep the queues clean. Not a single game has made this happen. Trash will always exist so when you take it out, new trash will pile up again.

You're never going to see such a player again if you're a random player yourself so simply report them and move on. It isn't worth being frustrated or fire back at them with the same force as then you're only putting yourself in the same situation to be punished. The ends don't justify the means.

ElikainAug 4, 20172 votes

There is just no sense in playing anymore if you don't have a duo to abuse the system with.

This might be the most ignorant statement i've ever read. There's no point in having to play a "true" solo queue as League was never about individuals in question. Yes, your individuality as a player matters to you but that reflecting on having to only queue up as a solo player has never existed in the game from the start of the ranked seasons.

charge attackAug 3, 20172 votes

It's funny because a lot of people on these boards legitimately believe that your elo/MMR isn't indicative of skill level and that they're only held back by teams (not most, but a surprising amount)

Actually there was one guy in Bronze 4 with 1000 games arguing very hard on how there's almost no difference between him and Challenger players and the matchmaking system is holding him back.

Weasel KenseiAug 4, 20171 votes

To be fair, Riot dropped me form Silver 3 to Bronze 4 (for some reason) this season, and while I was climbing to Gold I still got demoted from Bronze 2 to Bronze 3 twice because I had so many AFKS and at least 4 games in one week where someone wanted to lose the match just so someone else in the team they hated would also lose... Eventually I got out of the Bronze sewer of idiots, and the progress wasnt exactly a straight shot (on average 65% win rate toward Gold), but there were many MANY less games where I felt like "Oh my team is a pack of emotionally unstable clown morons, time to soak another auto lose."

Now Im not saying there is no difference between Bronze and Challenger... HOWEVER... Games I was ROFL shitstomping my opponents were simply unwinnable because some idiot got enraged at another idiot, and that became their whole world and they would go to their lane and try to fight them for CS, stand under the enemies turret and intent feed, and call out the teams position like "Were at dragon."

Sadly, a lot of people in Bronze arent there to win... theyre there to make other people miserable by keeping them in Bronze too. Now if youre a low Silver player, and you cant hard carry your way out then you may end up playing too many matches with the refuse that inhabits Bronze and not get enough LP to leave when you increase your skill level. Also, its hard to improve much when you only play against/with idiots and trolls.

NOW, Im not saying good people cant climb. They do. Im just saying that on my way to Gold (in solo que, Im now trying to solo my way to Gold in Flex) I couldnt tell much difference between Silver and Bronze except that most of the people in Bronze 2, Bronze 1 were trying to leave Bronze, about half way through Silver I encountered the Gold demotes that just ceased to give a fuck and it was like Bronze all over again...

All that said, if a player didnt play "enough" to even out the "types of people" they play with/against, and got unlucky over the course of like 3-6 games then I legit believe that they COULD be held back by their teams. The problem is if they get tilted by that experience, and give up half way through they may go on more of a losing streak.

I do believe that most people think theyre better than they are, its just unfortunate that some people are held back by their teams in a few games and they lose the will to maintain a game winning mentality.

That guy in Bronze 4 with 1000 games is probably trash though. I felt like most of the people I played against in Bronze 4 were either high or were just cats walking across keyboards.

Good luck with that wall of text bro, and if you read all that, pretend I gave you a cookie for being a cool guy/girl that reads stuff.

LeonerdoAug 3, 20172 votes

If he's actually boosted (with someone else playing on his account), then he'll get banned for that. If he's inting/trolling, AND he receives enough reports for that, he'll get banned. Both of those are already handled by Riot. There's always a small chance for someone to slip through, but you can't expect them to be perfect.

If he's not inting, but just playing poorly for some reason, then it's better for Riot to just let the MMR system take care of it (i.e. let him lose until his MMR matches his poor performance). There's no reason to punish someone for having a bad game/day/week/month.

So either, you're asking for something that already exists (Riot punishes trolls/boosters), or you're asking for Riot to punish any bloke who's on a bad losing streak for whatever reason.

Edit: Oh or you're just ranting and we're all just wasting our breath being upset over something we can't control.

Scary DoorAug 4, 20172 votes

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and he is still allowed to play this game because he doesn't talk/say anything negative in chat.

This isn't a case of an intent feeder, this is a case of straight up being boosted and he will never be punished despite being reported in just about every game.

AVERAGING 5k damage per game. Cool

OP is 100% right. I found the account in question and it is obviously boosted.

Obvious evidence:

Significantly better KDA during the apparent boosting period of time
Trinket usage (Red trinket during boosting, yellow when not)

I've seen this shit in gold/plat a Hell of a lot. I have a few accounts bookmarked that were boosted and I played with them/against them ... none of them as of this writing are banned, even though I put in tickets regarding every single one of them.

In one case, the guy even told me he was boosted and asked "what are you gonna do about it, noob?" Clearly, nothing, because Riot does nothing about it either.

EinarUlfarAug 3, 20171 votes

Holy wow I bet D5>D4 is a journey if there's a lot of those.

Emelie CauchemarAug 3, 20172 votes

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Holy wow I bet D5>D4 is a journey if there's a lot of those.

D5-4 is more or less coinflip queue. It's pretty over loaded with smurfs/boosters/boosted/otps/autofill. Your bot may be bronze and your top may be challenger all in the same game.

DeathBot666Aug 3, 20171 votes

I went 30/70 in 10 games a little bit ago, Does that make me boosted?

No, I was B1 at the time and I was just going through a losing streak. Yes that isn't as bad as your person, but still, I've since then gotten up to S4 (S3 depending on my next game), since I stopped playing the same champions over and over, and began switching it up a little. Just because someone is going through a bad set of games doesn't necessarily make them boosted.

Furthermore, yes I am silver, no I have never played with someone who has supposed to be diamond but isn't playing at that level, but that doesn't mean that my opinion is immediately invalid. I can still read damage and kills as well as you can, and form my own opinion of what they mean.

Ben SharpioAug 3, 20175 votes

if youre silver you can't talk about what its like playing with boosted players, because nobody in silver is boosted. 30/70 in 10 games sounds like something that could happen in silver/bronze. Youre silver/bronze for a reason. This doesn't happen in plat2-d5 MMR.

I'm on a MASSIVE losing streak right now, yet nobody looks at my match history and screams boosted.

13900 EssenceAug 4, 20171 votes

One of the few times where pulling rank actually makes sense.

DemainaNyxAug 6, 20171 votes

I suggest going into your match history, downloading the game, clipping pieces of his boosted plays, and posting it on Reddit. That seems to be the only way to get Riot's attention as far as inters are concerned.

If the Op.gg linked in this thread is the person you were talking about, they may actually be a booster, not the boosted one. It seems like they are capable of carrying, so they may be intentionally losing so they can duo with the person they are boosting. No clue though, but something to consider.