Big buff incomming for Lulu on PBE

CoolKnightST·May 18, 2015·2 votes·695 views

Mana Per 5 Sec increased to 8.5+0.6 per level (up from 6+.9)

Level 1-15: BUFF
Level 16-18: NERF

9 Comments

Derp PrincessMay 18, 20152 votes

It helps, but it's not a big buff.

She still needs more things to make her on par with others including...

buffs (the entire line sucks except for the gold you can potentially get)
Needs higher base movespeed. Just because she has a haste doesn't mean that she should have to suffer by having lower base movespeed.
Q needs a bigger slow (not as big as it used to be, just better) - Thresh has a 99% slow so hey it's fair.
Pix needs buffed as pix can actually hit 0's on Leona early. 0's should not be possible.
Make her less squishy, she is supposed to be squishy sure but she is too damn squishy. Most people would even recommend to overload her rune/mastery with armor and magic resist ... instead of ap and hybrid pen like she should have. Therefore, keep her hp the same but armor and mr just a tad bit higher.

These would help a lot, that would be a big buff. :P

DanofDemaciaMay 18, 20151 votes

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It helps, but it's not a big buff.

She still needs more things to make her on par with others including...

buffs (the entire line sucks except for the gold you can potentially get)

Needs higher base movespeed. Just because she has a haste doesn't mean that she should have to suffer by having lower base movespeed.

Q needs a bigger slow (not as big as it used to be, just better) - Thresh has a 99% slow so hey it's fair.

Pix needs buffed as pix can actually hit 0's on Leona early. 0's should not be possible.

Make her less squishy, she is supposed to be squishy sure but she is too damn squishy. Most people would even recommend to overload her rune/mastery with armor and magic resist ... instead of ap and hybrid pen like she should have. Therefore, keep her hp the same but armor and mr just a tad bit higher.

These would help a lot, that would be a big buff. :P

Yeah I agree and I also think they should make pixs bolts not be interupptable.

qetzelMay 18, 20151 votes

The trouble is that most of those would buff her solo lane far too much. It sucks, but as they have the same playstyle then only the strongest one is able to exist in a balanced state.

Also, Thresh's slow is on his ultimate :P

Derp PrincessMay 19, 20151 votes

Lulu is classifed as a mage and a support, therefore logically there is nothing wrong with this. She should be allowed to do both.

About Thresh - a 99% anything on anyone.. no matter the ability is op.

qetzelMay 19, 20151 votes

She should be. However, one is stronger than the other so buffing the weaker one would make the stronger one OP.

On Thresh, you were suggesting that Lulu should get a higher slow because Thresh has a high slow. Lulu's slow is definitelt not the same as Thresh's. It is spammable and practically undodgeable if you use pix. Ultimates work differently.

Derp PrincessMay 19, 20151 votes

If the base move speed wasn't capped lowest at 110 ... Thresh's ult would reduce people to speeds less than 20.

Lulu Q is far from spammable either, her mana regen (which is getting buffed thank god) is horrendously bad until later on when you have items.

Thresh is only mitigated by high cooldowns early, but it doesn't mean much when one engage means kills. Thresh's hitbox on the hook isn't entirely accurate either (especially on yordle champions), and once he has a hook - goodluck dodging his ult.

Play a few champs who aren't Thresh against Thresh, you'll see what I mean (you'll visually dodge it but still get hooked). Oh and Lulu Q is extremely accurate in hotbox so that's a thing at least, I actually feel good hitting glitterlance compared to death sentence or rocket grab (blitz) cause most of the time I'm just hitting someone because the hitbox on their abilities are horrible inaccurate.

I'm done anyway as everyone wishes to defend the things they obviously know are very strong while saying f--- you to all the weak champs. Funny enough out of all the strong picks Riven is the only one I feel any good playing because she actually takes skill to stomp people (who aren't idiots) and the community loves to complain about her and refuse to learn to play against her. Yes before you say it I know how to play against Thresh.

NorthernDruidMay 18, 20151 votes

That's significantly more mana regen at low levels. While being slightly less at higher levels where you get a ton of mana regen from item 2139 anyway.