Dear junglers, PSA for you

BeMyFriendPlease·9/1/2016, 4:23:11 PM·5 votes·861 views

I know you like to hide behind "it's not my job to win your lane" or simply "Oh the jungle gets all the blame"

But if botlane is getting camped by the enemy vi/elise/zac/whatever while you farm and "mute everyone" and the enemy adc snowballs to unstoppable levels

You will lose that game while refusing to lift a finger to help. Downvote all you want, but this "IT ISNT MY PROBLEM ITS THEIR FAULT" mentality has got to stop. The jungler has the best map pressure potential for objective control, that's just how it is. If you want to blame everyone because it isn't "your" problem.... please don't play ranked is all i ask.

13 Comments

RcGjWO640w9/1/2016, 4:45:39 PM8 votes

The best advice if you're getting camped is, "Play like a bitch". Don't go for kills. Don't try to harass. Keep your abilities off CD. Sit your ass under your tower and no matter how the lane's pushed, you don't leave it. Soak XP and just worry about getting as much farm as you can out of each wave safely.

Understand as a jungle main, if you've given 2-3 kills to your enemy laner, you are not going to get ganks. Period. Why should the jungler risk his life in a 2v1, a 3v2 or god forbid the enemy jungler counterganks just to make you less useless? If you've fed your enemy laner 2-3 kills, there's a good chance that they can 1v2 you or at very least kill you again and just walk away from your jungler.

I had a game where I was playing Jax in the jungle and our Volibear top was getting fucking destroyed by the enemy Teemo. He died twice and just spam pinged me and called for help the whole game, but I just let his ass sit there. That Volibear had already proven that in an even matchup, he couldn't beat the Teemo. Teemo was 2-0. What happens when I give the Volibear 2 kills in lane and makes them both an even 2-2? Well, he'll probably keep dying because he couldn't beat the Teemo in an even 1v1. He'd continue feeding and would instantly lose the lead I gave him.

I camped bot and mid lanes, put pressure on them. Killed the mid laner a few time. Killed the bot laners a few times. All the while Volibear kept pinging for help. The mid laner even asked me to gank for him and I just said, "I'm not ganking top lane," and left it at that. The times I did roam top, I ganked the Teemo and took the kill. I did not give the Volibear the kill gold because the Volibear wouldn't have done anything with it.

Simply put, it's more efficient for me to let a lane die and focus on camping other lanes to get them snowballing to counter the snowball you've created with your lane opponent. Once they're sufficiently fed, then I'll gank for you, but not to give you pressure, but to take the tower when we need it.

You fucked your lane and that is 100% your fault.

Lmao Get Mooned9/1/2016, 4:26:37 PM3 votes

If you get ganked and die, that is not the junglers fault.

Earthyz9/1/2016, 4:34:37 PM3 votes

there becomes a time when a lane becomes "ungankable" in which case the jungler has better things to do than go bot lane or wherever just to die with his/her ally to the enemy in a 1 vs 2. love the shit posts about "blame the jungler cause they're trying to not get blamed" truly spectacular.

Mira Arya Enthe9/1/2016, 4:25:19 PM2 votes

Oh boy. Somebody doesn't know how to ward and play passively and is blaming the jungler again. GUIZ! It's happening again!

EDIT: And as you can see from my mastery champions. I play mid, support and ADC a lot.

Dale Wardark9/1/2016, 4:57:23 PM2 votes

The first thing I had drilled in my head playing league was that if I was dying in lane, it was my fault, period. Even if the match up is hard, there are things you can do for damage control to stop yourself from dying.

BeMyFriendPlease9/5/2016, 10:17:09 PM1 votes

I got downvoted to hell, i main jungle and mid.

As jungle applying pressure wins games. Snowballing carries wins games.

My post was about winning and losing, yet i still got downvoted to hell because league of crybabies cannot stand advice on "winning" instead of ego stroking apparently =/

BeMyFriendPlease9/1/2016, 8:12:25 PM1 votes

To the jungle mains and people spamming downvotes because i hurt your feelings:

You cannot convince others to play differently. But you can control how YOU play.

If you say "fuck it it isnt my problem"

You will lose

anyways, back to downvoting with you all! :P

Sorin Alucard9/1/2016, 8:23:46 PM1 votes

haters downvoted but I agree

The Great Divide9/5/2016, 8:21:56 AM1 votes

You know seeing all these comments.... Yeah, you're all right. The laner should not die to ganks. And they should play passively if they're getting camped. However, there is this stigma that the jungler is always blamed, when in some cases the jungler not helping a lane is just not smart. Say if there's a xerath heavily pushing a morgana in mid lane. Any jungler would see that as an opportunity to get free gank gold. However, if they never show up, then the jungler is not providing the pressure he needs to. Sure it's easy for any criticism of the jungler role to say "Everyone blames jungler, it's always our fault." But sometimes, when the stars align and there's perfect gank situations, not taking them is also failing at your job.

(Inb4: it's your job solely to win lane, I just farm jg, dat's my job, you hate jg) <---- actually no, jg is my secondary role, so I get the jg blame. But I also play mid and can understand laner's plights when they just see the jg provide absolutely no pressure whatsoever.

TheAzeban9/1/2016, 4:37:25 PM1 votes

I don't think you are looking at it the right way. It is a 2-way street.

People need to understand this is a team game. So, that being said, you complaining about the jungler is not solving anything. Now, don't clam up, it is his fault too.

If your jungler doesn't want to help you, Either

A. He does not understand the game and you should just mute him and do your best.

B. He understands the game and he knows he cant help you.

In either case, if you are getting camped just play safe. When i say play safe i mean, like actually play safe. You might miss out on cs, but sitting under your tower missing cs is better than dying repeatedly. When i say sit under tower, i literally mean it. Sit there and wait for the minions to come to you. If you are getting camped, buy wards, sit under tower, learn to CS under the tower. If you can learn to cs under the turret, you wont even fall behind.

Blaming does not help you improve in this game. I recognize im trash and because of that i try not to blame people for making terrible choices. I do dumb shit too.