[Suggestion]New Poke Support item

CoolKnightST··3 votes·589 views

A idea for an new support item that would benefit champions like Karma Zilean Zyra Lulu Soraka Sona , etc... Overal supports that like to trade with auto attacks. This item allows an poke support to auto attack after 6 and even in teamfights.


#ITEM A

  • Recipe: Cloth Armor (300) + Amplifying Tome (435) + Sapphire Crystal (400) + 265 = 1400
  • Stats: Grants Armor, Ability Power and Mana (example: +30 Armor, +30 Ability Power, +200 Mana
  • Unique Passive: After inflicting damage with an ability all incoming basic attacks from allies to that target will form you an shield over the next 3 seconds. (Your Basic Attacks: 10%, Ally Basic Attacks: 6%)

#ITEM B

  • Recipe: ITEM A + Fiendish Codex (820) + 480 = 2700
  • Stats: Grants you Armor, Ability Power, Mana and Cooldown Reduction (example: +40 Armor, +80 Ability Power, +300 Mana, +10% CDR)
  • Unique Passive: After inflicting damage with an ability all incoming basic attacks from allies to that target will form you an shield over the next 3 seconds. (Your Basic Attacks: 10%, Ally Basic Attacks: 6%)
  • Unique Active: Summon a spirit orb that grants sight for 100 seconds. Whenever an enemy champion comes in range of the orb, it will chase and detonate himself after 3 seconds dealing 60 (+6 per level) magic damage to enemies.

5 Comments

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

Whats wrong with the AP item for this?

CoolKnightST1 votes

What other AP item are you reffering to ?

  • item 3136 is more aimed for the early game. Magic Penetration is a cheap damage source that can be deadly and usefull for supports like Karma Lulu Brand Zyra Velkoz. It's one build option that is perfectly if you need early pressure. However it feels like this item is not entirely finished yet during the lack on building it into a real support item what already has been confirmed by riot they want to implement one in the future.
  • item 3023 is a luxery item during the lack on defensive stats. It's use but only when you have a lead or are already located in a situation where you already collected enouge defensive stats to make it worth in that sitation.
  • item 3165 is a item that I really like on these poke supports. However it's an expensive road with a really late powerspike. Usefull but expensive & lacks on defensive stats to make it worth rushing. I could say it's a luxery/snowball item.
  • item 3174 actualy a verry usefull item after the buff. It provides you defensive stats while providing you with enouge sustain. Actualy the only thing that prevent you to rush this is that it's expensive while not providing any usefull supportive effects towards you carry. I like to build it on Soraka but it's just to luxery to make it worth on some other supports.
  • item 3060 situational like always
  • item 3100 luxery like always
  • item 3504 luxery/situational
  • item 3001 situational
  • item 3025 usefull on certain champions but expensive
  • item 3041 snowball item

Overal whe look to the AP items that are worth rushing. The list really small. As a poke support I want to be their for my carry & zone my enemies. I can only do that if:

  • I'm a damage thread (item 3136 item 3041 item 3108 item 3113 item 3057 item 3191 )
  • I'm tanky enouge to so they can't burst me down (item 3136 item 3028, item 2053, item 3801, item 3067 item 3024 item 3211 item 3191 item 3105 )
  • I have enouge sustain to punish them from attempting anything on me (item 3801 item 2053 item 3211 item 3105 )

In the scenario of a poke support. Their are currently no AP items that can rewards their poke & provide them with sustain in return. Their was a reason why item 3070 was a recommanded item for Zilean but it just doesn't provide any of the 3 stats above to make it worth building.

So that's why I suggested this item:

  • Stats: Damage, Tankness
  • **Passive: **Tankness (shield)
Volt Cruelerz1 votes

I think he's referring to item 3092

PrinceArchie1 votes

I play support often and some of these champs myself to poke. However I'm going to be honest what you're suggesting is quite frankly overkill. The strength of poke supports is to provide safe harass for their adc's, which in the laning phase is usually quite potent without much additional stats at all. I think further increasing the damage and utility of poke supports would put them in a dominant position, whereas right now they are in a relatively balanced state. HOWEVER as it regards scaling into the late game poke supports do tend to fizzle out as they do not scale all that well unless they have great amounts of utility (Like Lulu). Perhaps giving poke supports a little more late game power would be beneficial but I think allowing their early game to be any more potent is quite frankly too much. Many of these poke supports again do deal significant damage and provide significant utility in the laning phase. Certain things you suggest (greater AP and mana) would certainly put them over the top.

CoolKnightST1 votes

Honnestly riot is doing this to all type of supports. Just think about item 3800 and with a good reason. In order to get a viable support item they need to match with it's counterparts. Just think about the stats of item 3190 & item 3222. Their basicly the god items of their group. I don't think you can name a single support that won't be viable just by building these two. Just think what they did to item 3060. They added hugh power to this item and it needed magic immunity just to match the strength of item 3190. Just think about item 3056 and when riot finaly is going to realise it's not strong enouge compaired to it's counterparts.

I don't think this item will pull poke supports over the top. It sure will have a place on the rift. But only if it meet the requirements. If you need magic resistance you aren't going to build this item.

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