as a jungler, in my opinion, the way games are right now are exactly HOW THEY SHOULD BE

seems like everyone on the boards loves to fuck around and troll early game and not want to be punished for playing poorly. As of right now, those who play properly early game are rewarded for it, and we are allowed to win games for punishing people in their mistakes in-game.

Overextended? You get ganked, killed, and lose 4 waves if you dont have TP.

You want to play zyra/cait and other oppressive bot lane combos and perma-push my laners under their turrets? you get ganked and die for it

If you dont play safely against a laner who has early-game kill pressure (IE, ignite) you get ganked and die for it

If I'm playing greedily, and want to full clear even though i dont have the health/resources to stay healthy and die for it by an invading jungler? That's perfectly fine.

OR even better, if i get counterganked and killed for being over-aggressive, that's on me. THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. An unforgiving game, where people are punished for playing poorly.