AP shaco vs AP teemo

AMADEUSdotEXE·Mar 5, 2016·2 votes·504 views

^ how do i beat him? I play with inspiration of Pink Wards shaco btw.

3 Comments

L Psy KongrooMar 5, 20162 votes

You honestly don't have any kill pressure before level 7, and that's assuming you take Ignite. If the Teemo is smart, there's no way he'll run into boxes just to continue harassing you. He'll max E, poke with one auto at a time, and back off, letting the DOT wither you down. You do have a few outs though:

Abuse the bushes. Teemo's harass pattern will often include running in and out of bushes so that his DOT doesn't draw minion aggro. If you drop boxes in there, it will discourage this tactic, allowing you to trade more effectively. Also, if you know for a fact that Teemo is in the bush stealthed, drop a box in it. If he wants to move, the box will attack him immediately.
If the Teemo is stupid and doesn't use the bushes, use them yourself. Force him to either waste his ward on them (thus making him far easier to gank pre-6) or forfeit easy harass. Only come out for minions when they're low enough that a single auto will kill them.
This should go without saying, but start Corrupting Potion and rush an MR item such as Abyssal Scepter. The best way to counter Teemo is to out-sustain his harass.
When he pushes you under tower, use boxes to farm. Proper box placement should allow you to get minions without having to come near them, meaning Teemo can't harass you under tower like he can with most melee champions. Use this tactic in lane as well; just drop a box in the middle of the wave and let it cs for you.
Remember that your box placement range is longer than his shroom explosion range. If you know where he's placed a shroom, or if you suspect there's a shroom around, just drop a box in that area from maximum range. It will pop the shroom without hurting you (though it will kill your box).
Ask for jungler ganks. Teemo is one of the easiest lanes to gank pre-6. Kill him a few times early on, and you'll be well on your way to winning.
Out-scale him. Just accept the fact that you probably won't be winning lane. While AP Shaco isn't as useful in teamfights as most top laners, he's definitely more useful than Teemo. Roam mid at around level 4 and it should be an easy kill. Force fights later on, and depending on how the rest of your team is doing, you should win a 4v5. Teemo will rarely join teamfights. Abuse this and take objectives with the team.

Zero Skill TankMar 5, 20161 votes

Shaco isn't as useful in teamfights as most top laners, he's definitely more useful than Teemo.

This one is simply false. Unless enemy team is completely disorganized and allows you to whatever you want, or you are absurdly fed there is no way in the world AP Shaco goes anywhere close to Teemo's DPS and CC in a fight. What Teemo does might not seem as scary as Shaco's near-oneshots at first, but at the same time he is far, far harder to be denied from that. And he simply does more damage.

L Psy KongrooMar 5, 20161 votes

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This one is simply false. Unless enemy team is completely disorganized and allows you to whatever you want, or you are absurdly fed there is no way in the world AP Shaco goes anywhere close to Teemo's DPS and CC in a fight. What Teemo does might not seem as scary as Shaco's near-oneshots at first, but at the same time he is far, far harder to be denied from that. And he simply does more damage.

HIs DPS may be higher, but that doesn't exclude the fact that 90% of Teemo players will never even go near a teamfight. They will sit top lane and push all day long, covering their ass with shrooms. In minor skirmishes around objectives, Teemo's only impact will be through shrooms (if he's good enough to know where to place them). Even if he does join teamfights, AP Teemo builds too squishy for that DPS to be worthwhile. Not to mention his "cc" consists of a single-target blind (which you will almost never get in range of the ADC to apply) and a slow from his shrooms (which require the enemy to be poorly positioned and dumb enough not to have a red trinket active during the fight).