guys elo hell doesnt exist......

zarxus1234·Sep 12, 2017·2 votes·491 views

4-7 on shaco in my match history. Not one game where i've gone negative. I have 3 games in there where my teammates have all gone negative.

Every single game my lanes lose so hard. Its not even close.

18 Comments

five oh tree Sep 12, 20177 votes

step 1: realize kda doesn't matter

step 2: realize elo hell doesn't exist

step 3: learn how to impact lanes more effectively as shaco

step 4: ???

step 5: Profit

MahfitemunnySep 12, 20171 votes

"Stop blaming your team for being living anchors. You should just carry your teammates harder instead of expecting them to be competent and play at the same skill level as you"

five oh tree Sep 12, 20175 votes

well, that's a horrible summary of what I said. Go back to 5th grade reading comprehension?

Mig89Sep 12, 20175 votes

Youre not gonna win every game but you being consistently better than the person across from you in your role will force you to climb. Its just plain and simple math. You being JG and being better than the enemy JG in 55% of your games will help you to climb because the other 4 spots, odds are some of the time your team will carry and some times they wont. If youre the weight that tips the odds in your favor every game, youll climb to where you belong and when youre going even with the enemies in your role you level out.

zarxus1234Sep 12, 20171 votes

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Youre not gonna win every game but you being consistently better than the person across from you in your role will force you to climb. Its just plain and simple math. You being JG and being better than the enemy JG in 55% of your games will help you to climb because the other 4 spots, odds are some of the time your team will carry and some times they wont. If youre the weight that tips the odds in your favor every game, youll climb to where you belong and when youre going even with the enemies in your role you level out.

so 2 straight games where i've gone positive and all my team mates went negative is my fault.

perhaps i shouldn't have jungle last game. I should have stood in the bot lane bush. I should have known that my bot lane was going to die at level 1.

Their jungler started 1-2-0 last game. I was 3-0-3. Every one of my lanes got ran over again.

I dont think you understand how bad my teams are. These games aren't even close.

five oh tree Sep 12, 20175 votes

If you're that fed as shaco and you can't impact lanes, it's YOUR fault for soaking up all that gold and xp and not using it. How is that hard to understand?

zarxus1234Sep 12, 20171 votes

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If you're that fed as shaco and you can't impact lanes, it's YOUR fault for soaking up all that gold and xp and not using it. How is that hard to understand?

Do you not understand where my team mates aren't doing anything? You can literally go in my match history and see they are 0-8 0-7 almost every game.

Do you get that? Me getting 300g wont do anything. When my team can't even come close to winning their lane. If my laners all die 2 times each by the 12 minute mark. It doesnt matter if i get 3 kills because i am on par with the enemy from my team feeding while my laners are still behind.

It really isnt that hard to understand.

jwebb0113Sep 12, 20171 votes

1st game i looked at... your team has no tank, no engage , with corki bot lane which is trash ...

2nd game you had no one on your team to peel the nasus, poppy, xin and malphite from your back line MF went lethality build into that line up and she is horrible at killing tanks

3rd game i dont know how you won. your jax built like shit had so many deaths and voli bear isnt a support he is BEARLY a champ right now

Mig89Sep 12, 20171 votes

Rhaast has a strong point. Shacos power is in his early-mid game and if youre 3-0-3 and no towers/objectives are down and your team is all feeding then youre doing it wrong. Any ELO youre in, both sides will be fairly close to skill level. YOU CANNOT WIN EVERY GAME. it just averages out over time. The game is not KDA wins games, farm wins games, warding wins games: Its a combination of everything. Your team comp matters and in this meta, assassins are kinda bad aside from a couple. They dont fit into a lot of team comps and if your team has 5 squishies, youre most likely gonna lose unless two of them are enchanters. Also, if your 3-0-3 score came from ganking the same champ 6 times, that means the gold youre getting from that champ is next to nothing. Their JG could have been 1-2 but had 50 CS more than you and been ahead gold wise. My guess is your not objective focused and kills are not objectives.

zarxus1234Sep 12, 20171 votes

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Rhaast has a strong point. Shacos power is in his early-mid game and if youre 3-0-3 and no towers/objectives are down and your team is all feeding then youre doing it wrong. Any ELO youre in, both sides will be fairly close to skill level. YOU CANNOT WIN EVERY GAME. it just averages out over time. The game is not KDA wins games, farm wins games, warding wins games: Its a combination of everything. Your team comp matters and in this meta, assassins are kinda bad aside from a couple. They dont fit into a lot of team comps and if your team has 5 squishies, youre most likely gonna lose unless two of them are enchanters. Also, if your 3-0-3 score came from ganking the same champ 6 times, that means the gold youre getting from that champ is next to nothing. Their JG could have been 1-2 but had 50 CS more than you and been ahead gold wise. My guess is your not objective focused and kills are not objectives.

ok i had 60 more cs than him.. and it was 2 kills mid 1 top and 3 bot. you still haven't addressed the fact that in my match history i dont have one negative game as shaco and i have 5 plus games where all my team mates when negative.

Mig89Sep 12, 20173 votes

Theres nothing to address. One person cant carry a game 9/10 times. Its 5v5. I dont understand why you think because your positive you should be winning. YOUR KDA DOES NOT MATTER IF YOURE NOT WINNING GAMES. It is not indicative as to how youre actually doing. I could probably watch your replays and tell you what youre doing wrong but beyond that I dont know. Your stats do not matter unless youre winning. I play leona a lot and I die a lot on her but I win games because I know when to die for the teamfight win. If youre getting ahead until the enemies are scaling into their strengths and at that point just being too scared to fight because you dont want to ruin your KDA, thats one example of why KDA doesnt matter. People do this. Take this as an example. youre 8/4/8 at the end of a game. Thirty minutes in you could have been 8/0/8, then you get caught and die. Youre dead for 30+ seconds because timers scale with game time. Enemy team takes a baron/dragon/tower from the 4v5 advantage. You then die 3 more times and the enemy team just abuses the advantage they have. Situations like this are why KDA really ddoesnt mean shit without some insight as to when you got kills/died. Ive started games where I die twice in the first 5 minutes. This doesnt matter as much as dieng late because im dead for like a total of 40 seconds. This is why its so dumb to get tilted from early deaths in low ELO. The enemy most likely doesnt know how to push the early advantage and its way too easy to get back inn the game.

Mig89Sep 12, 20172 votes

Maybe its time to give up shaco friend. You have a 52% winrate in 400 games. You have to choose between playing a champ im guessing you enjoy, and playing something you win on. I lucked out and my most fun champ happens to be one I carry pretty hard regularly with. I dont know who to recommend to you since you havent played enough ranked games on anyone else. Realize that all shaco brins is some cheese strategies and some damage. Unless your game knowledge is vastly superior to who youre playing against, its going to be an uphill battle to climb. Numbers dont lie and 52% in 400+ games is not a good sign for a main.

zarxus1234Sep 12, 20171 votes

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Maybe its time to give up shaco friend. You have a 52% winrate in 400 games. You have to choose between playing a champ im guessing you enjoy, and playing something you win on. I lucked out and my most fun champ happens to be one I carry pretty hard regularly with. I dont know who to recommend to you since you havent played enough ranked games on anyone else. Realize that all shaco brins is some cheese strategies and some damage. Unless your game knowledge is vastly superior to who youre playing against, its going to be an uphill battle to climb. Numbers dont lie and 52% in 400+ games is not a good sign for a main.

exactly numbers dont lie. every game im going postive and every game my team mates are terrible.

Mig89Sep 12, 20172 votes

Youre the only consistent factor in those 400 games and as a jungle main, You might be why theyre getting demolished. If the enemy jungle is actively ganking/counterjungling and youre not then theyre going to have more map pressure and it makes it easier to get objectives and kills. You might have the best KDA ever but if you got it from easy cleanup kills and youre too much of a puss to risk your KDA in teamfights later then youre hurting your teammates. I know shaco is pretty squishy and useless in a teamfight. If youre not dominating the early game youre almost worse than useless late unless all you do is split push and even then there are better champions for that.

LimmieSep 12, 20171 votes

If you are matched with them then they do play at the same skill level as you. Just because you have a better KDA doesn't mean you contributed the most.

KDA whores that fraghunt instead of pushing the game forward lose as many games as feeders.

Pie CubedSep 12, 20171 votes

Do you do anything other than farm downvotes?
Look at the one common factor between all your games. Hint: it's you.
If you think KDA is everything and become a stat whore, you're never going to climb.

zarxus1234Sep 12, 20171 votes

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Do you do anything other than farm downvotes?

Look at the one common factor between all your games. Hint: it's you.

If you think KDA is everything and become a stat whore, you're never going to climb.

so tell me omniscient one. how is it that my team mates all going negative in 20% of my last 20 games me being bad? KDA isnt everything? You can have the 0-8 feeders and ill take the 9-0 guys. I wonder who would win more games?

If i was going 0-8 as shaco every game i would lose every game.

You literally see it in my match history. Every one of your lanes were solo'd killed by the 6 minute mark. Well you should have carried that game harder.

Like i said you say the only factor is me and yea the only factor is me doing well in my games.

Pie CubedSep 12, 20171 votes

Then if you were so high and mighty, you have 4 chances to get shitty teammates. Enemy team has 5. Some games are plain unwinnable, but to blame your teammates and being a stat whore for every game you lose will not get you anywhere.

You're probably the type of guy to die once in bot lane then flame the top laner for not using his teleport on cooldown, flame the mid for not roaming bot when he's dead, then blame the enemy team for hacking.

Edit: looked at your op.gg. NEGATIVE winrate over hundreds of games. Yes, it's totally not your fault.