Wouldn't it have been easier just to have never touched shaco in the first place......

zarxus1234·Dec 22, 2016·9 votes·584 views

This champion was relatively balanced before you touched him. 50% win rate and a 1% ban rate. and i think it was like a 5% play rate. There weren't any threads about shaco. He was an average champion.

And then you had to go and touch him. So lets see: You pissed off all the shaco players by touching him. You pissed off the community by over buffing him. Now you are pissing off shaco players by changing him again.

Just revert this champion to his original state and leave him be for now.

How about instead of fucking with a balance champion you work on the champions that are weak like (like nidalee, azir and such) and work on nerfing the op champions.

12 Comments

N0rth WindDec 22, 20163 votes

He was fucking cancer.

MissingKayoDec 22, 20163 votes

Incorrect, he was perfectly balanced pre-rework.

HyperiönDec 22, 20163 votes

Lul, no he wasn't.

MissingKayoDec 22, 20165 votes

Shitty players are not factored into deciding whether a champion was balanced or not. Only shitty players complained about pre-rework Shaco.

HyperiönDec 22, 20162 votes

Am i complaining? No. I simply said he wasn't balanced.

His kit was great for early game, not late game, be pretty much became dead weight with how he used to be. Also, his invis was and still is on like a 8 second cd with cdr.

How he just insta nukes even more with going full ap. Compared to 2 shotting with crit before.

MissingKayoDec 22, 20164 votes

He was good at splitpushing and punishing anyone dumb enough to be out of position.

And his stealth duration wasn't gutted pre-rework, but in return, pinks could see him.

AP Shaco was/is unhealthy (post-rework). AD Shaco pre-rework was fine.

zarxus1234Dec 22, 20163 votes

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He was fucking cancer.

I feel like you are just a sheep, to be honest. There was no complaining about pre work shaco at all. And if he was such cancer, why was his ban rate only 1 percent. As opposed to post rework, his ban rate has started to increase.

Compare that to nidalee who had a 40% winrate with a 43% ban rate.

I feel like you are one of those people whose philosophy is: riot says so, so it must be true.

Troy242621Dec 22, 20162 votes

If you honestly think Shaco's AP build is healthier than Shaco pre-rework, I want some of whatever you're smoking. AP Shaco is aids, and it's binary. Either he kills you in .2 second or he doesn't.

AD Shaco had a healthy win rate and pick rate with an established playstyle his mains, myself included, find enjoyable.

The Yetii RiderDec 22, 20161 votes

Can't do that. Original Shaco had a 3.5 second stealth at level 1. That's not balanced with pink wards failing to remove Stealth.

He wasn't the same champion after the system changes. If they didn't touch his kit at all and just changed the Stealth, he'd be broken beyond belief.

Akali is SO HOTDec 22, 20161 votes

They could've just lowered his stealth at earlier ranks if he turned out to be too strong with the pink ward changes instead of completely changing him for no reason.

The Yetii RiderDec 22, 20161 votes

Well, yes, but his AD kit was just split pushing constantly. That's not what assassins are supposed to do and the split-push has been nerfed on Zed before. Makes sense to remove it now.

Akali is SO HOTDec 22, 20161 votes

Me 2 Akali