u fire a guy for being toxic but dont fire your balance team for being terrible....

zarxus1234·Oct 4, 2017·22 votes·713 views

That kind of explains a lot. There are so many feeders but its the people that get mad at the feeders that you punish.

For instance there was a person on the enemy team that was blatantly trolling but you will probably punish the people that tried to play the game.

Then there is this meta where your balance team has done nothing to try and fix it for so damn long and nothing.

For the record i don't think you should have fired either of them. But since you guys are so trigger happy this explain why there are so many feeders.

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SEKAIOct 4, 201717 votes

This rant makes no sense.

Your title implies you're going at the balance team, but then you spent 2/3 of your rant going off completely different matters that have nothing to do with the premise and only attach the actual things about balance team in a single sentence that started with "Then there is this [...]" as if that isn't the focus of the thread as per the title.

Let's not even mention, well... let's just say your justifications for your claims need some work on since they're quite lacking.

I think it would benefit far better if you actually plan the thread instead of just lash it out and press "Post".

zarxus1234Oct 4, 20174 votes

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This rant makes no sense.

Your title implies you're going at the balance team, but then you spent 2/3 of your rant going off completely different matter and only attach the actual things about balance team in a sentence that started with "Then there is this [...]" as if that isn't the focus of the thread as per the title.

I think it would benefit far better if you actually plan the thread instead of just lash it out and press "Post".

im saying that as soon as you say anything negative riot punishes you. Whether it be banning your from playing the game or firing you from the company.

But you can feed in game and troll. Or be awful at your job (the balance team) and they won't do a thing.

That helps explain why there are so many feeders and trolls in the game.

SEKAIOct 4, 20173 votes

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im saying that as soon as you say anything negative riot punishes you. Whether it be banning your from playing the game or firing you from the company.

But you can feed in game and troll. Or be awful at your job (the balance team) and they won't do a thing.

That helps explain why there are so many feeders and trolls in the game.

Game balance has nothing to do with player behaviour moderation.

Also, the sacking situation is more of a reflex response to mass witchhunting (doesn't mean it was a good response tho), and less about Riot over-punishing things or whatever.

zarxus1234Oct 4, 20174 votes

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Game balance has nothing to do with player behaviour moderation.

i dont think i can explain it to you any clearer im sorry.

SEKAIOct 4, 20172 votes

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i dont think i can explain it to you any clearer im sorry.

As I added on later:

"Also, the sacking situation is more of a reflex response to mass witchhunting (doesn't mean it was a good response tho), and less about Riot over-punishing things or whatever."

zarxus1234Oct 4, 20174 votes

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As I added on later:

"Also, the sacking situation is more of a reflex response to mass witchhunting (doesn't mean it was a good response tho), and less about Riot over-punishing things or whatever."

which is the whole point of the thread and you are agreeing with me. God forbid you say anything toxic or you will get instantly punished. Feed or be terrible at your job and nothing happens to you.

And i guarantee you that a lot more people have quit this game over feeders and the games poor balance than what that one rioter said.

SEKAIOct 4, 20172 votes

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which is the whole point of the thread and you are agreeing with me. God forbid you say anything toxic or you will get instantly punished. Feed or be terrible at your job and nothing happens to you.

And i guarantee you that a lot more people have quit this game over feeders and the games poor balance than what that one rioter said.

No, my point was that Riot only did the sacking because the incident was turning into a big PR cesspool/shitstorm. While I can see many faults with what they ultimately went with, but that's not relevant here, just saying that is different to what you're trying to bridge it to.

archerno1Oct 4, 20172 votes

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which is the whole point of the thread and you are agreeing with me. God forbid you say anything toxic or you will get instantly punished. Feed or be terrible at your job and nothing happens to you.

And i guarantee you that a lot more people have quit this game over feeders and the games poor balance than what that one rioter said.

But as you also see, its not Riot who wants that, but the community. Its we, the players, who want toxic people out stat, not Riot. Riot only does what vast majority of players want

zarxus1234Oct 4, 20173 votes

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But as you also see, its not Riot who wants that, but the community. Its we, the players, who want toxic people out stat, not Riot. Riot only does what vast majority of players want

If they did that than adc's would have been nerfed a long time ago.

archerno1Oct 4, 20173 votes

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If they did that than adc's would have been nerfed a long time ago.

They did. Draven got nerfed, Cait got nerfed, Xayah, Ashe got nerfed. No ADC atm has any drastic winrate. Ardent censer is whats strong, not adcs. And Censer got nerfed too. Also you keep talking about Riot employees like they are ministers in your government. You play game for free, they are none of your concern. You dont know what their job is. You arent their employer.

EedatOct 4, 20171 votes

im saying that as soon as you say anything negative riot punishes you.

This is bullshit. I've played A LOT of LoL. I have every single champion and usable rune unlocked with 20 rune pages. I have never ONCE been punished at all ever.

You know what I do when I get a feeder/troll on my team? I literally tell them something along the lines of "Fuck off" or "Go fuck yourself" etc. Why dont I get banned? Because after that I mute them. Riot isnt going to ban you for saying one thing to a troll in a game. You're going to get banned by going off the wall and cursing them out 20 times in 20 minutes.

PennsOct 4, 20175 votes

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BALDG1VEN BOOMEROct 4, 20172 votes

Fresh

KoKobotoOct 4, 20171 votes

Riot Sanjuro 2017-2017 RIP

Fargo79Oct 4, 20173 votes

Ya im confused as to what he is getting at.. Just cause you think the balance team is doing a bad job doesnt mean they are.. I love how people just flame others on here cause they think they can do a better job... sometimes its true.. but most times they have no idea what they are saying and are just repeating something they read from another person and dont actually have an opinion or solution of their own...

So you think the balance team is bad at their job?? Why is that?? What would be your solution??

Also you think its ok to Flame another player Just cause they are dying?? most of the bans happen cause people take it too far in giving "criticism".. comments like " Your map awareness is garbage." could be stated like " You have to be more mindful of the enemy movement." both say the samething but say it differently..

If someone is having a bad game it doesnt mean u have the right to flame them for it.. either be supportive or dont say a word..

zarxus1234Oct 4, 20172 votes

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Ya im confused as to what he is getting at.. Just cause you think the balance team is doing a bad job doesnt mean they are.. I love how people just flame others on here cause they think they can do a better job... sometimes its true.. but most times they have no idea what they are saying and are just repeating something they read from another person and dont actually have an opinion or solution of their own...

So you think the balance team is bad at their job?? Why is that?? What would be your solution??

Also you think its ok to Flame another player Just cause they are dying?? most of the bans happen cause people take it too far in giving "criticism".. comments like " Your map awareness is garbage." could be stated like " You have to be more mindful of the enemy movement." both say the samething but say it differently..

If someone is having a bad game it doesnt mean u have the right to flame them for it.. either be supportive or dont say a word..

Last game my team should have lost. But there was a player on the enemy team that trolled. The enemy team would have won if he didnt troll. Will he get punished? No. But if one of his team mates flamed him for trolling then they will.

There was a vidoe on youtube of a rioter (im not linking it because i dont want to call him out, and if you don't believe me fine) of him talking about the game and he clearly had no idea what he was talking about. And nothing is going to happen to him.

It boggles my mind that employees at riot can just not do their job and nothing happens to them. But say something toxic and you are screwed.

And to be perfectly honest creating a poor game loses more players that what that one rioter said.

Rank player base is down as well as viewership is down.

deathgod5Oct 4, 20173 votes

I know people seem to think that the balance team is doing an absolutely atrocious job, but I don't see it. This game is relatively well balanced with the highest winrate only being 5 percent of 50(source http://champion.gg/ ).

The guy was fired for making unprofessional comments that were out of line and give bad pr for their company. They would gain a lot of negative pr if they didn't. They have no reason to fire their balance team tho considering they are actually just doing their job.

Douglas FunnieOct 4, 20173 votes

When you got a balance team who changes a champion's playstyle, then hotfixes the champion twice back to back within 2 days by nerfing the champion 3 times in a row in 3 days, you know something is wrong with the balance team.

GrievousFetusOct 4, 20171 votes

No, you know something is wrong with the balance team when she's still too strong despite all of that.

TyrekGoldenspearOct 4, 20172 votes

Hey. I know you're frustrated. But remember two things.

Their vision of the game's direction may not match yours at all times.

This is the usual stuff that happens around preseason. Things gonna get shaken up.

GrievousFetusOct 4, 20171 votes

Look, all you really have to remember and keep in mind is that above all, Riot is lazy and Riot is incompetent. Yes, it is completely counter intuitive to ban the people rightfully upset at a griefer but not ban the griefer just because he didn't drop a kys in the chat, but Riot has no way to automate int feeding reports. They can automate verbal abuse reports, so they do.

Fargo79Oct 4, 20171 votes

I love it when people bitch and complain about a game thats free to play and has lasted 7 seasons plus its early beta era... games like this need change but at the same time they dont need morons like the OP saying, out for hanging of all whom have wronged him.. people who feed yes they get reported they get dealt with... however its shows time and time again that Riot will not put up with bullying in the Verbal form in their game.. u dont like it?? go play COD where u have can 10 year olds whos balls havent dropped yet talk shit to u..

zarxus1234Oct 4, 20171 votes

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I love it when people bitch and complain about a game thats free to play and has lasted 7 seasons plus its early beta era... games like this need change but at the same time they dont need morons like the OP saying, out for hanging of all whom have wronged him.. people who feed yes they get reported they get dealt with... however its shows time and time again that Riot will not put up with bullying in the Verbal form in their game.. u dont like it?? go play COD where u have can 10 year olds whos balls havent dropped yet talk shit to u..

im not bitching about the game. im bitching about the company. They fired a guy for saying something.

But they don't do shit about people ruining the game. Do you not understand that?

Are you that dense?

Fargo79Oct 5, 20171 votes

so wait u wouldnt fire someone talking shit about your product thats under your employment?? there is a difference between consumer and employee's freedom of speech. Consumer can say what they want in whatever way they want and still have leeway in the repercussions. An employee talks shit about their boss or the company ya they can be fired for that.. u think they should ban everyone in the game cause they might have a bad day?? no they give them a series of chances or levels.. once they pass the 14 day ban its no more chances and are banned..

You make it sound like you know that no one gets in trouble.. you have no proof of this and therefore its all speculation.. you have no idea if the said players in which you are complaining about have received any form of disciplinary action. so pls.. stop calling for them to ban everyone cause you hit a pile of trolls in your games.. we all have the trolls and we all deal with it without having to make a pointless thread about it.. people that ruin the game are those who come on to the forums and cry for whatever reason cause someone cost them their series.. not pointing any fingers here "MR. OP".