It's a simple change really.
Actually give us the math that Daisy's health and damage has.
Make Daisy's damage and health scale on Ivern's HP/Armor and NOT his AP.
Changing the recommended items away from Full AP items and replacing them with HP/Armor/Utility items.
Shadòw1 votesyou can look up the Damage at lolwiki
AttackOnTeemos1 votesI use Daisy only as a counter when I get ganked, but to be honest. Ivern is fine where he is at. I play him also as a top lane and as a support and he can even go toe to toe with an Olaf.
He is one of those champs you have to play the poke poke game until you get items and basically trick your laner into going all in. Once they do you basically bushback up and poke at them back.
As for Daisy her AI is something I can't put my finger across, comparing her to tibbers she is dumb as nails if I don't alt her to do something.
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesStill waiting for a better passive on W and AA animation for range.
The range empowerment is fine but just flat base damage per hit when he isn't a dps champ, nor does it AoE, nor does it empower allies is just a waste....
All support champs with AA empowerments can either grant it to allies or it does multiple things,,,,while ivern's is only for him not even able to grant daisy it.
Beldair1 votesYou realize Ivern is primarily a jungler right?
They added Support because of his Q, W, and E only.
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesNunu is a support(control) jungler and he can grant allies with his AA empowerment.... your point?
Ivern is better off not attacking for long periods of time, a dps passive that only benefits him is horrible. If it was more of an upfront burst with internal CD that'd at least would be better. The range empowerment is fine but constant dps for himself is pointless.
Out of his entire kit a dps AA empowerment that only benefits him not allies or even daisy is pointless. The rest of his skills and the bushmaking portion of his W are solid though, but his W's passive is pretty worthless since it's a flat number that you'd have to AA constantly to actually get value out of.
Beldair1 votesI play Ivern as a Jungler and don't see any problems with him... Do I get a lot of kills? No. But I'm ok with that because I get my mid and adc the kills while I enjoy the benefits of assists and a pretty safe clear in jungle.
DarkRitual1 votesThe one change I would like to see for him is some sort of buff when allies are inside brush he makes. Maybe health regen would work. Something other than damage or attackspeed. Everyone can use health regen. Make it scale with his own health regen.
