Like lulu for example. Her entire kit is toxic. Support kits are some of the easiest to use because they don't require you to outplay anyone. Lulu presses R and boom the adc is 100 times the threat he was beforehand. Jana, soraka, blitz, thresh, etc. Never mind the fact that champions like Blitz are doing 1000 damage with his pull alone. Like they need to be tuned down.
AlienPrimate4 votes"doing 1000 damage with his pull alone"
[sg-miss-fortune]
80 / 135 / 190 / 245 / 300 (+ 100% AP)
With a 0 MR target, blitz needs 700 AP to do 1k damage with his pull. Against a 100 MR target he needs 1700 AP.
Bultz1 votes"doing 1000 damage with his pull alone"
[sg-miss-fortune]
80 / 135 / 190 / 245 / 300 (+ 100% AP)
With a 0 MR target, blitz needs 700 AP to do 1k damage with his pull. Against a 100 MR target he needs 1700 AP.
Yeah because you playing support has nothing to do with your opinion. 1:1 ap means with 200 ap he has 400 ap. with 300 he has 600. Fuck you mean.
Ralanr3 votesBut not 1000.
Purgë1 votesBut not 1000.
blitz damage is so high for a support right now it's a fact maybe not 1000 but he definlty chunks squishys to atleast 50 % of there hp i dont have that much problems with his damage , but THE HIT BOX ON HIS Q is so stupid and still not fixed to this day
Ralanr2 votesOh yes Blitz has problems, there is no denying that. But he’s not doing 1000 damage with his Q alone.
See if people were more factual in their points then they’d be taken more seriously.
AlienPrimate2 votesI have no idea what you are trying to say. If you are referring to 100% AP scaling, that means the ability gains damage equal to his AP which Blitz doesn't generally have any of anyways. The 1000 damage you are taking from him when he pulls you isn't from just the pull. His full combo damage is:
Q = 300 E = double his AD (242) R = 300 for shock during the pull if no other enemies are around him and 500 for burst Iceborn if he has it = 121
Total = 1463 mixed damage which could do 1k damage to a low resistance target. This is his entire combo and not just his pull though.
As Ralanr said, if you had said with his combo people would be much more inclined to agree with your post. As soon as you stated "with his pull alone" you invalidated your entire post.
Rewt1 votesu wot m8?
1:1
If i have 1 apple
Then its worth 1 dollar
1:2
If i have 1 Apple
Then its worth 2 Dollars.
Blitz Q has a 1:1 scaling. NOT a 1:2
This means if blitz has 200AP then he gains 200 damage on the Q.
Purgë3 voteslets not forget how tank were buildling suuport items cause they are cheap and more efficent then real tank items, and how supidly tanky suuports are to the point u wounder why even play a real tank
Ralanr2 votesHow are you getting 1000 damage off of Blitz pull?
Bultz1 votesHow are you getting 1000 damage off of Blitz pull?
Because if he pulls me, and I have 1000 damage less at that point, that's what it did....
RenownedWheat422 voteswhat
EDIT: Unless Blitz has fuckin 700 AP at level 18 that's not happening fam haha
Purgë1 votessupport is a retarded role at this point , lulu R is giving a nasus or a renekton ult to everyone with a knock up and shields and heals and she have a fukton of damage thanks to new runes it's so dumb, support role is completly broken vs other roles
Spiffy McBang1 votesOriginal point: Some supports are very strong relative to their difficulty of use.
Thread becomes: Blitz damage isn't the number you said STFU scrub
Not that the original point is necessarily a good one, at least for someone in low silver. Speaking as a support main around that level, passive supports like Janna and Soraka are trash tier if their team falls behind, and in low elo most players don't know how to make use of having such a pure support champ on their team. Blitz is Blitz; if you can play around him, or if you get a chance to pick counter champs into him (Ezreal/Rakan/Morgana), his usefulness drops dramatically because you'd almost always rather have a good Alistair as a tank in a teamfight. Thresh and Lulu take more practice to use well, and apart from her polymorph (which is a big deal) Lulu broadly deals with the same team-based issue as Janna and Soraka.
I used to ban Thresh because even though Blitz hooks are more dangerous, Thresh's kit is harder to fully dodge. Now I ban Lux, because the double root is a huge problem in high bronze/low silver solo queue and, more generally, I see hard mage supports all the time now (or tanks, which are much easier to deal with while laning). Mages are far more useful at silly-bugger level than the ones high elo and pro level players make good use of.
I see the OP normally plays mid; if you find Janna and Soraka are becoming problems when you're not in their lane, roam more and gank them so they fall behind. If you get an ADC game, don't let them get started—don't get ganked and call for your own. Their weakness is that you don't really have to beat them, you just have to not get beat by them. They get much easier to handle once you find ways to do that.
Rewt1 votesHonestly. Janna is a piece of shit. I hate that champ.
her shield can negate ults. It needs to have its AP scaling reduced to .5 instead of .7
COBRA C0MM4NDER1 votesSion is fun. Screw Blitz!
Why drag the champ to you when you can run screaming at them?
Seriously though. He's fun if you play him as support.
