Can we have true hypercarries?

Too Ton··1 votes·1,197 views

Champs that can 1 v 5? Not poppy or nasus level, I want even higher. Karthus people say is one but he is not tanky. An assassin can kill him and jump out so that's not hypercarrying.

Edit: No right now we do not have legit hypercarries. No one anyone listed is tanky to never die 1 v 5 or AND do enough damage to 1 v 5

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Lord Dusteon4 votes

"Hi, I want a champion overpowered enough to destroy an entire coordinated enemy team solo."

Too Ton1 votes

Hypercarries like mine would have super crap early and mid games to compensate. It's risk vs reward

Lord Dusteon4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Too Ton,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yzwAUVOs,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-01-14T17:04:48.753+0000)

Hypercarries like mine would have super crap early and mid games to compensate. It's risk vs reward

That doesn't help anything at all. Either they aren't picked because they die way to easily early and thus are free gold and a 4v5 for the enemy team, are they are picked everygame because they survive a while and then dominate everything. Your design is either 100% useless and a troll pick or 100% picked and required in every game.

So no.

(Also, this is a TEAM game. Not a "lol I survived for 30 minutes so I win. I heard Dota has some hard carries like that, so how about you go over there?)

Matthias91193 votes

Exactly. "If you stall for X minutes you auto-win" is not a healthy champion design, at least in League.

JevelFaithful2 votes

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Exactly. "If you stall for X minutes you auto-win" is not a healthy champion design, at least in League.

This mostly. It's basically agianst every riot guideline.

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

no its not your early sucks so enemy jungler and laner will get fed then they will get thewir team fed while there will always be someone who will just come to den your farm

it ight sound like a fair tradeoff but its just a trap since champs with weak early can be denied of their late

Toru Itai1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Too Ton,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yzwAUVOs,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-01-14T17:04:48.753+0000)

Hypercarries like mine would have super crap early and mid games to compensate. It's risk vs reward

to justify being able to legit 1V5 they'd have to have a bad early mid and a below avarage late, only geting strong at the 60 minute mark.

redniwediS3 votes

Seeing as how this is a team game, and even assassins should have some difficulty in a 1v5, I don't think we will get any champions that fit your description perfectly.

Genreninja3 votes

I definitely think the potential is there. But it takes more than just the champion to be able to 1v5. The 5 have to make lots of mistakes the 1 can react to. Everything from Item Builds, positioning, missed skill shots, and wasted cooldowns and summoners. Without making those mistakes, no 1 can take on the 5 alone. Not to mention all the things that have to happen to set up the 1 to have the items needed to burst and the 5 being denied the items they need to survive it.

Having a single champion who can simply 1v5 just because they're that strong wouldn't be in any way be a fair scenario. I've watched as an Ahri weaved her way around a team, alone, scoring a Penta all by herself. I watched an old school karma take on a 1v4 only to kill the 5th who came in to clean her up. I've watched an Orianna obliterate a poorly positioned team and would have killed all 5 had the ADC been anyone but ezreal who could shift over a wall, then flash over another to escape. I've watched a LeeSin juke the enemy team to Death, and a Kayle ult her way to pwn'ing the enemy team. But in every scenario the enemy team made mistake after mistake after mistake that the 1 champion was able to take advantage of.

What you're asking for is already possible. But it requires a great deal of skill. But there will never be a champion able to 1v5 just for being who they are. It will require smart counter play on their part, and lots of mistakes on the enemies part.

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

Cass

Toothierosprey31 votes

Riven, Yasuo, Tryndamere, and Vayne are the only ones I can think of right now. (Maybe Warwick?)

Toru Itai1 votes

veigar's probably the only one. but that's like 300 minutes into the game, where he one shots people with Q wile he has a full tank build+rabidons

Eli Big Gay1 votes

I've seen this done by Mordekaiser, if he catches the enemy team by surprise and quickly takes out the ADC and mid laner.

AORKDL261 votes

if you want a game where skill matters and you can actually carry play dota

squirrelah1 votes

riven can you just have to be boxbox level of good with her.

xLegendary Troll1 votes

Ryze, Vayne, Morde, Tristana fed, master yi, Riven with cleanse to remove ignite and at least 30+ life steal.

Swain can 1v5 but needs blue and lots of mana. Vlad can 1v5 with liandries and a good amount of tankiness and spellvamp

OhsleeZy1 votes

Something is making noise in the bush over there, in the midst of the night 20 glowing eyes appear of the bush. The eyes color turn from green to red as if in madness due to hearing i can't 1v5, his hair turned yellow and his jaw steel,MasterYi HADOUKEN!!!!!!!!!!!

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