I think Manamune/Muramana are kind of useless

Shroom Junkie·May 14, 2015·3 votes·500 views

At the moment, anyway. The only real champion I can think of it being used on is Urgot. I might be wrong, but it seems its kind of useless, and I think it should be made... well, unuseless.

I had a little idea for Kayle... like, make her E cost mana per hit rather than just activate it and use it for awhile. It could save your life, and it would definitely be a lot more expensive to use. So, it would bring down her ginormous AOE damage from her E, as well as make it so manamune/muramana is useful. And it would just kind of rework the playstyle of Kayle in general.

I can't think of many more ideas, but I just wanted to say this to let Riot know, Manamune is almost useless, and I think there should be more champs that can use it.

EDIT: Scratch that idea for Kayle, she takes AP not AD.

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ZeeDrakonMay 14, 20152 votes

Ezreal goes manamune, urgot does, jayce does, varus can do, kha zix can do, ive seen udyr, panth and gankplank go muramana...

its not that bad. but yes, there are only 4 champs that have it in their usual builds right now

Jazzy JesusMay 14, 20152 votes

You must not be paying any attention to its stats, then.

item 3004 25 Attack Damage 250 Mana +25% Base Mana Regen

That's just its base stats. So already it's giving mana-using brawlers and ADC's a boost in power, along with extra mana to burn and an increased regeneration of it.

UNIQUE: Bonus AD equal to 2% of maximum Mana

So even more damage the more Mana you have. You actually get 5 more AD just from the 250 extra Mana the item gives you.

UNIQUE: +4 maximum Mana with each basic attack, spell cast, and Mana expenditure, transforming into Muramana at 750 bonus Mana

So the more you attack, the more Mana you have to use, and the more power you gain from its other passive. Then, once this thing reaches 1000 total bonus Mana (that's 20 total bonus AD from the Mana it gives), it transforms, transferring the 750 bonus mana to the 250 already there, losing the +4 Mana per attack passive, then obtaining a NEW passive:

UNIQUE: Every single-target spell and attack expends an extra 3% of current Mana to deal bonus physical damage equal to the 2x the amount consumed.

Those 2 passives definitely incentivise getting other items that give AD and Mana, allowing you to blast down an enemy with just a few basic attacks once you get enough. The only thing that would make this more ridiculous is if it gave Critical Strike Chance as well (hello, Ashe updates).

The Manamune and Muramana definitely bring a lot more to the table than you seem to realize.

straight4freeMay 14, 20151 votes

Ezreal Urgot Jayce Malzahar (AD)

It's niche but when a champion can make use of it, it is a very good item.

Shroom JunkieMay 14, 20151 votes

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It's niche but when a champion can make use of it, it is a very good item.

Ezreal, maybe. Urgot, obviously. Jayce... I guess. Never thought about that. Malzahar... why? He isn't even AD.

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Nidalee is AP, plus her couger form doesn't even use mana. Blitzcrank... meh. Depends if you're building AD Blitz, which is an uncommon build. Orianna is AP. Why would you build AD? Ryze ADC... I don't even get why people do it. Anivia is, once again, AP. I've never seen people build AD unless its just to troll.

AnonagonMay 14, 20151 votes

Someone hasn't been enlightened about our lord and savior AD Malz

Shroom JunkieMay 14, 20151 votes

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Someone hasn't been enlightened about our lord and savior AD Malz

Oh dear lord, I haven't. Please, show me your ways O' wise one, so that I may follow the path to wisdom and enlightenment in the ways of the AD mage.

BrothaMay 14, 20151 votes

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Oh dear lord, I haven't. Please, show me your ways O' wise one, so that I may follow the path to wisdom and enlightenment in the ways of the AD mage.

Type in "AD malzahar" into youtube or look up "Shift Almani Discoheat". His split pushing and 1v1 assassinations are superior. Teamfights he isn't AS strong but he still puts in work.

AnonagonMay 14, 20151 votes

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