This is why I never surrender,

The Öutcast·Feb 27, 2018·3 votes·351 views

Look at the F*cking gold lead, and I still pulled that shit out to a victory

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2728850481/33281485?tab=overview

15 Comments

Final Spark LuxFeb 27, 20183 votes

Awesome, nice job! This is why I always tell people the superior tactic is to never give up :)

RenownedWheat42Feb 27, 20182 votes

Good job mate, I'm the same way. But holy shit how was your adc 6k behind?

ricardo2010Feb 27, 20181 votes

most gold/silver players dont give lane farm to ad carries and the laners dont realize they need to catch their waves bouncing so lots of farm just dies to towers and your own minions natural push while theres an aram mid.

The ÖutcastFeb 27, 20182 votes

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Good job mate, I'm the same way. But holy shit how was your adc 6k behind?

she did not understand how to cs, and that's not even being rude, they really didn't know how. She did the least damage in the game and had the lowest gold count in the game.

RenownedWheat42Feb 27, 20181 votes

That's pretty unfortunate, all things considered y'all should've lost so good on you for pulling it out anyway.

redniwediSFeb 27, 20181 votes

Some people only play for the game at hand. They look only at the active game, and focus only on that victory.

Others play for the average. They don't care as much about the active game, and would rather cut their losses early so they can move on to a more favorable game.

That game isn't why you never surrender, it's a product of your mindset. People who surrender are not wrong, they simply have a different outlook on the game. While both have a place in League it's not great when the two mindsets get put on the same team.

The ÖutcastFeb 27, 20181 votes

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Some people only play for the game at hand. They look only at the active game, and focus only on that victory.

Others play for the average. They don't care as much about the active game, and would rather cut their losses early so they can move on to a more favorable game.

That game isn't why you never surrender, it's a product of your mindset. People who surrender are not wrong, they simply have a different outlook on the game. While both have a place in League it's not great when the two mindsets get put on the same team.

for the first 25 minutes of the game, the annie, heimer, and vayne had given up and were whining in chat. Once I started popping off, they decided to stick it out, and when we got baron, they decided we could win.

They were trying to surrender, and they were wrong.

redniwediSFeb 27, 20181 votes

A lot of people make posts like yours saying the entire idea of surrendering is wrong. Your post is set up like one of those, so I assumed. Just keep in mind the idea of surrendering isn't wrong.

DragfinFeb 27, 20181 votes

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Some people only play for the game at hand. They look only at the active game, and focus only on that victory.

Others play for the average. They don't care as much about the active game, and would rather cut their losses early so they can move on to a more favorable game.

That game isn't why you never surrender, it's a product of your mindset. People who surrender are not wrong, they simply have a different outlook on the game. While both have a place in League it's not great when the two mindsets get put on the same team.

High elo players who surrender have a different outlook because they understand the game. Most low elo players who surrender are abusing the purpose of the surrender button because all they want to do is get into another game and ruin that one too.

Argue all you want but the surrender button is useless at low elo because too many have no clue when to surrender or think they do. They learn nothing by surrendering at 15 minutes which is what most do when things go poorly. I would love to see the stats on 15 minute surrender comparing low elo to high elo. Bet my theory is pretty close.

redniwediSFeb 27, 20181 votes

I have no plans of arguing, because the points you made are not mutually exclusive with the points I made. My points cover people who understand the game, yours are about the difference between people who understand and people who do not understand.

DragfinFeb 27, 20181 votes

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I have no plans of arguing, because the points you made are not mutually exclusive with the points I made. My points cover people who understand the game, yours are about the difference between people who understand and people who do not understand.

Well the majority of the players who play this game don't understand it. I think that would be a better point to make. Bottom line is the surrender button is a crutch for shitty players.

ricardo2010Feb 27, 20181 votes

looks like 1v9. look that vayne only 2 items and theres a useless heimerdinger :O

The ÖutcastFeb 27, 20181 votes

The idea that it's ok to surrender because it's going to be a hard game is ridiculous and toxic.

Spiffy McBangFeb 27, 20181 votes

I've spent far, far more time in hopeless clusterfks where we couldn't get a surrender to pass than in comebacks, whether we voted to surrender or not.

Some people give up way too easily, but the idea every game is winnable if we just get together and try is equally ridiculous.

KaiokoFeb 27, 20181 votes

First of all good job!

Secondly my opinion on the matter -- in most instances anything below mid Plat should not surrender unless it's beyond hopeless. One of main issues silvers/golds/low Plats have is how to convert a lead into winning the game. Ultimately you can have the advantage all game, but once everyone is full build it doesn't matter.