Anyone else feel Urgod stole Kayns thunder?

Hexs Fortune·Jul 8, 2017·88 votes·3,281 views

Two reveals in one patch. Only one can win the hearts of men.

Urgod vs Kayn

89 Comments

EedatJul 8, 201777 votes

Hmmmmm there is a distinct lack of shotguns in Kayn's kneecaps. Well, urGOD wins

LoLN008Jul 8, 201735 votes

will this be how we judge new champs/reworks

Fondling GemsJul 8, 201738 votes

Wait that isn't how you always judge champs/reworks?

LoLN008Jul 8, 201725 votes

it is now, praise be to urgod

5000000000000000Jul 8, 20174 votes

Why pick Graves when Urgod is 6 times better?

PresidentPeeweeJul 9, 20172 votes

He has 8 shotguns.

Brain Errör 404Jul 9, 20172 votes

Then he's 7 times better.

Chembaron YamadaJul 9, 20172 votes

Pretty sure he has six, not 8.

Chembaron YamadaJul 9, 20171 votes

I don't understand why Camille got so much hate then. Knife legs is at least closer to shotgun knees than any of the other newly introduced champions. .__.

5000000000000000Jul 10, 20172 votes

She brought knives to a shotgun fight

SolarisCorvusJul 8, 201729 votes

I hope riot sees this scraps kayn's release and change his lore so rhaast is now a darkin that inhabits the knees of warriors and fires out organic pellets.

RewtJul 8, 201741 votes

Kayn is cool but Urgod is something that people have been looking forward to for like 3-4 seasons now.

AhristocatsJul 8, 201714 votes

correction

it's called oUrgod

DanjengJul 8, 201727 votes

Shall the better nipple win.

Big LincolnJul 8, 201724 votes

idk what you're expecting

Kayn's a nobody who's trying to act big. Urgot has stood the test of time and been hyped for YEARS

SceizerJul 8, 201723 votes

he used https://lolstatic-a.akamaihd.net/frontpage/apps/prod/rg-urgot-update-2017/en_GB/bab76781d50130ad47485e8712b145690e9a8476/assets/img/icon-e.jpg and put kayn behind him

morris1Jul 8, 20179 votes

I guess you could say he https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/a/aa/Purge.png 'd Kayne of his fame.

JmannNobodyJul 8, 201715 votes

Kayne? You mean Nightmare from Soul Calibur Gone Edgy?

An Enemy SutandoJul 8, 20178 votes

You're meaning to imply Nightmare from SC wasn't edgy to begin with?

NaqelJul 8, 20178 votes

Nightmare is the edge(literally, he is the avatar of the Soul Edge).

Siegfried was edgy in his possessed outfit/form.

Kayne is memetic levels of "ow the edge".

MooooooooreDakkaJul 8, 201714 votes

Kayn has a cool kit, edgy lore and appearances, and a unique mechanic that lets him change his kit mid-game, Urgod has shotgun knees. Who do you think wins?

DragonSheaJul 8, 20177 votes

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Kayn has a cool kit, edgy lore and appearances, and a unique mechanic that lets him change his kit mid-game, Urgod has shotgun knees. Who do you think wins?

Shotgun knees beats blade knees

SwarovskoJul 8, 201712 votes

VGU > new champions.

warmcorntortillaJul 8, 201711 votes

Yeah, and it's kindaaaaa disappointing because I think Kayn is actually one of Riot's best releases in terms of character development and story-telling. Being able to blend narrative and gameplay in cool, interactive ways is one of the hallmarks of a great video game, and the unique interaction between Kayn's gameplay and story progression is something that I don't know could really be fulfilled in any game other than League. Up until now, it kinda felt like the story and lore, and the gameplay, were at odds with each other. This is the first time that Riot's released a champion where YOUR gameplay decisions, in game, affect the outcome of the NARRATIVE of a champion's life. It's absolutely amazing, and very, very creative.

I think people are getting overwhelmed by the 'edgelord'iness and memes. Not that they're not fun, but Kayn and Rhaast are great characters, and even better in the way their characters complete each other. I find it a bit disappointing that you eventually lose one to the other (but still very fitting and the best part of their kits, imo) because they have such a great, fun dynamic together. It's like the cop films of old. Their chemistry is off-the-charts.

I wish they'd spaced the releases out a bit, though I'm sure the developers at Riot get just as excited to show off the things they've made as anyone else, and both of these releases are soooo amazing, I'd have a hard time keeping the lid on one to give proper time to shine to the other.

GelsominoKillerJul 8, 201713 votes

Kayn? I can hear the dude talking angry Japanese just by looking at his splash. He is so bland and generic that probably at Riot they sat around a table with the deliberate intent of realizing the most stereotyped anime edgelord they could think of. And I don't even think I'm exaggerating .

Raahst is one-dimensional as fuck, he just babbles about killing and murdering all the time. It's laughable, actually. "How to be a big bad demon 101".

You're too easily impressed from the transformation in my opinion... It is a concept that popped up countless times during the years in fan concepts.

Coincidentally, Kayn actually LOOKS like a twelve year old concept of a champion.

CorriandrJul 8, 20177 votes

I highly disagree. Kayne is pretty much the generic "edgy" shonen anime character. The narrative is bland and done a thousand times before (spoiler: It's Soul Edge + Naruto), the art is uninspired, the kit is lackluster except for a silly gimmick of running through walls and the only single interesting thing about it - getting to choose Nightmare or Sasuke (Bruiser or assassin)- is entirely overshadowed by the blandness of the characters. Generally, it is just over-all uninspired.

I believe he is a product of Riot's recent fascination of everything being from Ionia. With the exception of the tank rework and now Urgot, almost everything they have done or released recently has been from, or involved, Ionia in some form or fashion. Hell, even Diana has run to Ionia for some reason now (via Nami's new Vastaya lore). It is now beginning to show. They are literally pulling the single most boring, bland, stereotypical anime tropes and retreading ground they have already done to keep everything going Ionia. They've rung it dry; it is time to move on.

MistlightJul 9, 20172 votes

Didn't Nami's story happen near targon though? all those people angry at the moon or whatever?

AbiwonKenabiJul 9, 20172 votes

Not all Vastaya are from Ionia though. Nami's people live in the ocean. Although I could be mistaken and Diana went to Ionia now, but Nami by no means resides in Ionia. That said, we don't know where Targon is in comparison to Ionia because we still don't have an updated map for some reason.

Rengar is another example of a Vastaya tribe that doesn't live in Ionia.

However, I do agree that too many new Champions are coming out of Ionia. At first I thought Kayn was from Noxus (which he technically is from) and then I listened to some of his quote interactions with Zed and I'm like "Ooooohh, he's a Shadow guy," which is a cool, unexplored space that could expand on Zed and Shen a little, but then I realized that we JUST got 2 Champions from Ionia. I'm not even sure Xayah and Rakan needed to be from Ionia, they don't look or sound like any other Ionian. And in the last 2 years, we've gotten Jhin (Ionian), ASol (Targon), Taliyah (Suriman, associated with Ionia), Kled (Noxus), Ivern (barely Freljord, associated with Ionia), Camille (Piltover), Xayah and Rakan (both Ionian), and now Kayn who's heavily associated with Ionia. I have to agree that it's a little too much, especially considering Ionia has as many Champions as the two major powers, Demacia and Noxus. Probably more at this point.

Ariel the CruelJul 8, 201711 votes

Who is Kayn?

JRobin31Jul 8, 20173 votes

I think he means Nasus . https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UblkDIVfQjQ/hqdefault.jpg

RalanrJul 8, 201710 votes

Kayn didn't have much thunder after the first day.

Bright TurtleJul 8, 201710 votes

A man edgier than his scythe and a shotgun knee capped meat grinder. This'll be a fun patch.

QuephaJul 8, 201710 votes

I don't think their fanbases really overlap,

Urgot: people with taste Kayn: stupid teenagers

Eternal791Jul 8, 20177 votes

Yeah. I was looking forward to playing Kayn until they revealed the Urgod's second coming. Though being there's still two weeks till Urgot is released, I still would play Kayn... except my computer can't run games at the moment and I have no idea when it's gonna get fixed (could be after Urgot's release for all I know).

SukishooJul 8, 20177 votes

Two reveals in one patch.

Eh not really. Patch 7.14 has wrapped up, so this is more of a pre-7.15 moment.

DessemJul 8, 20177 votes

Kayn also looks a bit boring to me; doesn't do much new outside his ult, and his fantasy (edgy shadow assassin) was already represented. Also what's with League men a) being bald, b) balding or c) overcompensating with very long hair?

Varus, Taric, now Kayn.

Meanwhile Urgod represents an amazing thematic with very unique gameplay beyond Kayn's rather generic-looking kit. No real oomph to his abilities.

CM CalgarJul 8, 20176 votes

Kayn is a rip off of soulcalibur

Kuzja1Jul 8, 20176 votes

While Kayn does possess a rather unique passive and abilities like everyone else, it is his certain style that would seem rather dull and cliche and uninteresting. Where as Urgot's new characteristics is far superior in terms of uniqueness and innovation. After all, Piltover, along with Zuan are both one city powered by innovation and forward thinking.

FuhrerRicoJul 9, 20176 votes

Kayne has no thunder though. Dumb champ and urgot rework is just sooooo much cooler.

Emerald FangJul 8, 20175 votes

Kayn is edgebringer yasuo on steroids.

CatastropJul 8, 20175 votes

Forgot about Kayn completely tbh.

rtbf221651412Jul 8, 20175 votes

Urgod is Zeus. What do you expect? He's a God.

deadlychuckJul 8, 20175 votes

Another overloaded highly mobile AD fighter, who doubles as an assassin or tank.

Something new.

Can't imagine why he stole the spotlight

Mister SupportJul 8, 201712 votes

NO! It's not doubling as an assassin or tank. It's literally choosing assassin with no tankiness or bruiser with little mobility. The choice comes in if you want Kayn or Rhaast. Stop saying the shit about champions "doubling" as classes when it's a choice.

Friendly RamJul 8, 20174 votes

hey I already have urgot so i'm happy to get two new champs in a patch.

CatastrophicJul 8, 20174 votes

Cause kayn sucks and new urgot is the saviour of mankind

DreadlocksJul 8, 20174 votes

Maybe this is a good way for riot to open up other bans xD

JESUSSAYSNOJul 8, 20174 votes

Kayne will probably see higher play, edgy pretty boys tend to be more appealing. I think Urgot is a better champion though. Kayne doesnt even have a passive until midgame.

SpaghettiVaseJul 8, 20173 votes

I think it has to do more with the long wait for the Urgot rework yet Kayn kinda came out of nowhere. That being said me and my best friend are split, they are hyped for Kayn since she plays jungle and I'm hyped for urgot since i play toplane juggernauts.