Balance explanations? (A Sona/Fizz/Lee/General flashy champions Discussion.)

Cubism··2 votes·637 views

I know that this will be buried under the 10 other balance/complaint threads about the same thing, but if anybody is reading this, I'm honestly just doing it to get concerns and such off my chest. Thanks for your time.

Ok. I understand that Sona's poke can be a little over the top, granted she has it to make up for her sub-par heal and squishy-ness, though as I do play full AP Sona from time to time, I understand that her Q is a crazy. I also understand that she has a movement speed steroid on her E, AOE none the less. But I don't understand why her movement speed should be nerfed. She's already so vulnerably. The only times I escape ganks as Sona or get out of fights cleanly as Sona, is with my ult, and even then sometimes that's not enough. I just can't see a logical reason as to why her movement speed of all things is being nerfed. Is it so players have to risk more in order to poke? Get in get out? Maybe.

In my opinion, I feel like Sona should be the support that isn't the best at anything, but she brings a weaker mix of what lots of other supports bring to the table. Decent health, OK heals, move speed, Some CC, and some poke. While I'm not saying overload her kit to the fullest extreme, I'm saying that don't take away from her base stats, move around, and play with her abilities. Because that's what she feels like she should be. An excellent musician who's songs can mystify and empower her allies and friends, and terrify her enemies because of the power she gives, not the power she has. Buffs, sheilds, etc. That's Sona in my eyes.

Now why do I bring this up? Why Sona? Yes, some of it is bias, because I'm a support/top main. But some of it is also because there are other champions that are much worse. Lee Sin, and Fizz, who seem like the community's main issue/complaint. Lee being one of my friends favorite champions, and Fizz being one of mine. Yes they are unbalanced, but what's great about them, is that their power gives them the ability to make flashy plays. VERY flashy plays. And while I think that this is great, It's almost too easy to pull off these flashy plays. However, when you think about it, you can also preform some flashy plays with Sona. While she doesn't have the peel of Braum, or the cluch hooks of Thresh, (Madlife senpai notice me) sweet christ, can she set up teamfights. I remember reading somewhere that's what riot wanted crescendo to be, a fight changing ult. It's quick, clean, and when used at the right moment, can make comebacks or crush the rest of the game. But nerfing her base stats isn't going to change these flashy plays. Not as much as we might expect. But if there are problems with Sona, and what she contributes to fights, then the problem isn't her movement speed, is it? No not at all. What's the main thing people don't like about Fizz or Lee or hell, even Katarina or Yi? People don't complain about Fizz's health, or Lee's Attack speed. They have issues with their ABILITIES.

So if you're going to nerf Sona, put a little more thought into it. It's not her base stats that need nerfed, though her health really could use some help, play around with her abilities, re-balance them, and do the same with the other two I've mentioned too. There is a way to nerf champions, and still make them flashy and suprising, and fantastic! And while I understand, that there can never be Balance in all things, (Sorry Akali Shen Kennen and Irelia D:) There can always be close. Sure, there's always going to be that one or two champions that are better or stronger than others, that's what keeps us on our toes, right? I mean, hell. I hadn't seen Jayce in forever until worlds, love Jayce by the way, and now I see him pretty often. But never, should a champion be allowed to reign allmighty for a long period of time. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Eventually, more people will start to pick up the OP champions or play them more often, which will create turmoil in games. If anybody remembers pre-nerfs Riven you'll understand.

I'd like to thank anybody who reads this and continues the discussion. Please, keep as much bias and personal hate out of your discussions on here, and if a Red has read up to here, as of now, I really do appreciate it. Like, more than anything. If you would go the step further, and give us anything at all here, to tell us that you're listening, like "Hey, well thought out!", or "I see what you're saying. Your point(s) make sense." I'm not asking that you do a whole AMA here, I'm just asking that you acknowledge that we the community have concerns about the direction you're taking the balance of certain champions. I think most of the concerns comes from the fact that, while yes we do get explanations, they're in the the patch notes. Which are the final say and go, until next patch. It's that if something goes through, and it was a bad change, even after PBE testing, we have to wait quite a while to fix the situation.

Again, thank you for your time.

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ScurvyNave1 votes

Awesome points man your arguments make complete sense. Rarely does riot nerf the ability/issue that people are complaining about and this results in the champ becoming trash or remaining OP (cough LeeSin , cough new jungle cough).

Anyhow I just wanted to add that it annoys me how they just nerf 3 or 4 champs each patch with only a small blurb on why. Why not buff champs to the same point as others or at least make the nerfs more balanced if not the champions.

How long has it been since you've seen a Shyvana top lane? or a Talon mid?
Yes nerfs may be needed but only particular issues need be nerfed. Riot plz think before you make changes: "Are we nerfing this champion to make them balanced by removing their op aspect?" or "Are we making them absolute shit and fall out of meta by reducing them to sub-par viability"

Also because it can't be said enough NERF YOUR LCS POSTER BOYS Thresh and LeeSin every goddam game has one of them in it and yet they remain untouched whereas Ryze and Alistar start dominating top lane and they got nerfed in like 2 patches to obscurity. Hypocrisy and Favouritism in its finest.

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