When was the last time you heard this phrase? Just recently I was in a game, when I had somebody say it, and I then realized that I hear this phrase a lot less than I used to. I hope to strike up a discussion about honor, and what can be done to improve it. Post your thoughts here.
doubleguac9 votesWithout any tangible rewards attached to honor, a lot of players seem to just ignore it now. Also, from my understanding, the icons are rewarded not for flat numbers, but for being in the top x% of honored players on the server. Last I heard, players in bot games are apparently much more statistically likely to reward honor, so most of the crests don't go to people who are primarily playing PvP SR.
Honor was a cool idea, but I think it's hard to make people care about it. Serious rewards would go a long way, but they would also encourage honor trading (you give me x, I'll give you z), which kind of defeats the purpose of honor in the first place.
I don't play DotA, but from my understanding, you can end up in some kind of "dishonor hole" (dunno what it's actually called)... if you get reported too many times, you start primarily getting matched with other jerks. Maybe Riot could do the opposite--players who receive a lot of honor are more likely to be matched with other honorable players, at least in normals. This would make honor meaningful, without incentivizing honor trading (you want to only honor players that you would actually like to play with in the future).
Stars Shaper1 votesWithout any tangible rewards attached to honor, a lot of players seem to just ignore it now.
With the community we have, having it attached to an actual reward would make things even worse.
Cubism1 votesWithout any tangible rewards attached to honor, a lot of players seem to just ignore it now.
With the community we have, having it attached to an actual reward would make things even worse.
What do you mean by that? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, for a different perspective.
doubleguac1 votesI don't think it would make things "worse," but I do think it would encourage honor trading, like I mentioned in my post. Imagine there was a skin rewarded for having high honor. Players would be encouraged to do "give me 'friendly' and I'll give you 'helpful'" swaps, regardless of whether the other player was actually particularly pleasant to play with.
Stars Shaper1 votesWhat do you mean by that? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, for a different perspective.
What do I fear is that ppl will start bitching and raging up about honor as much as they do with reports.
Cubism1 votesWhat do you mean by that? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, for a different perspective.
What do I fear is that ppl will start bitching and raging up about honor as much as they do with reports.
So basicly, if somebody doesn't get honor, then they rage, and report for being toxic, etc.
Ok, very good point.
Stars Shaper1 votesSo basicly, if somebody doesn't get honor, then they rage, and report for being toxic, etc.
Ok, very good point.
That and premades kicking ppl who won't ensure an honor for them.
Remlap12232 votesI don't play DotA, but from my understanding, you can end up in some kind of "dishonor hole" (dunno what it's actually called)... if you get reported too many times,
Prisoner's Island. It's great in theory, but Riot's firmly against it. If someone can link the forum archive in which red said and why they were against it, I'll give you +1 interwebs.
AbodyHUN6661 voteshttp://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/24jy3s/why_low_priority_queue_prisoners_island_is_bad/ it links you to the forum thread if you click the title. They basically say a toxic environment makes non toxic people a lot more toxic, so escaping a prisoner's island would be a lot harder and painful than it should be.
Hi lm Kalista1 votesGoing to that forum made me notice something.... (btw I play both lol and DOTA 2) dota 2 players think that they still have a chance to surpass league of legends LOL.
AbodyHUN6661 votesShhh...Don't break their hopes....Let me do it instead. 
Diljic2 votesLast I heard, players in bot games are apparently much more statistically likely to reward honor, so most of the crests don't go to people who are primarily playing PvP SR.
I vaguely remember Riot saying they might change the ribbons to a per queue basis to avoid this. But I don't remember any follow up.
TeemoHunter13375 voteshonor doesnt do anything so there is no point.
the only thing riot can do is make it so if u get 50 honors in like 3 days, then you gain an extra 500 ip. or if u get 1000 honor in 1 month then u get a special icon.
but other than that nothing.
Cubism2 voteshonor doesnt do anything so there is no point.
the only thing riot can do is make it so if u get 50 honors in like 3 days, then you gain an extra 500 ip. or if u get 1000 honor in 1 month then u get a special icon.
but other than that nothing.
You're right. It really doesn't do anything permanent. In my opinion, honor should affect your IP gain at the end of a game. There's another moba out there, called Dawngate, and their honor/reward system is something league could take notes on. Basically, at the end screen, you choose who to honor. You can honor all but yourself of course. Then, after this, depending on the number of honors you got, it gives you a number. You then get a random roll, and it is added onto the previous number. The higher your end number, the better your reward. The highest tier can give out their evquivalent of IP, Runes, and even a new character if you're really lucky. Then after this there's the stats screen, where you have your reports. In Dawngate honor has a serious effect. It's part of the game. It's not a small off to the side thing like in league. There's a whole screen devoted to it. While I'm not saying that they should take their system, and give out champions, just make it so honor is more impactful.
AFK Push5 votesI only honor those who I feel were truly honorable. Say I had a good game against the other team and only honored 2 of them. The reason being that those 2 were friendly and sportsmanlike, whereas the other 3 were either toxic or didn't say anything at all. I just don't honor people like that.
Morgana Senpai4 votesThe honor system fell apart fast for a few reasons.
Honestly I liked my ribbon and was able to achieve every single ribbon at one point or another. But not they are gone. Not from lack of being honor worthy but because no one really honors anymore unless u go like 30-0. The few people i do come across with ribbons dont strike me as anyone special who has them.
Riot has to fix the honor system, put in
AbodyHUN6661 votesThere should be more honor options too, because helpful in the current system means you are teaching your teammates during the game. In ranked you get reported for that. Also giving honor should be rewarded too, since there are few people who would sacrifice 5 seconds of their time for something they have no gain from.
COBRA C0MM4NDER3 votesI received my first ribbon at level 11. It was the Golden ribbon. As I played, it became a green ribbon for teamwork, because someone else deserved that gold ribbon more I guess.
I am always glad to have that green ribbon upon my profile, I am all about teamwork. I sacrifice kills I could take the right people to keep our team strong. Teamwork isn't hard.
I hold those ribbons to be good because they are not easy to earn. much less keep.
AbodyHUN6661 votesyeah but higher level players rarely honor, and it's almost nonexistent in rankeds. I tend to honor most of the players who play well, but almost never recieve any, even if I had fun with a teammate or carried the game
hOrnn3 votesi say this when i want honor from everybody but dont want to give it back, as im very honorable like that.
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2000boxes1 votesi heard this a month ago it was a very very close game that literally ended with one nexus being 1 hit away from destruction and the other one was destroyed right before that last hit
Cubism1 votesUpvotes are appreciated, I'd like to get asmany people on here as possible for discussion.
Zulgaines1 votesPut honor on a day-to-day update linked to your first win timer.
That way they can add tangible rewards to honor without risking toxicity on a game-to-game basis since you'll never really know who gave it or when you got it.
SecretAgentHulk1 votesNot quite sure what you're trying to say, but it inspired me to think that if getting 3 honor points on a first win of the day would give triple instead of double IP, people would sure use it a lot more. At the same time, there still wouldn't be much incentive to give honor unless someone actually deserved it, so it wouldn't encourage honor swapping.
Cubism1 votesPut honor on a day-to-day update linked to your first win timer.
That way they can add tangible rewards to honor without risking toxicity on a game-to-game basis since you'll never really know who gave it or when you got it.
Very good idea!
kitcat3001 votesI cant remember the last time I played with anyone who had a ribbon.
Malgana1 votesLast time I heard it was in the credits for Dishonored.
Remlap12231 votes"Honor for all" When was the last time you heard this phrase?
Yesterday. Don't draw the pitchforks and like the torches, that was the first time I've heard that in six months.
Sarutobi1 votesI honestly cannot remember the last time said honors for all. People especially in normal and rank games barely use the function anyway. And vs ai which is what I've seen in the past is the only place people actually did that, but now those are filled with bots so that doesn't help.
But I will agree it would encourage abuse but if anything they should make it so that you can't honor people you personally queue up with.
Hi lm Kalista1 votesHONER TO ALL more like VALOR TO ME
EchoZeero1 votesI still have my Teamwork ribbon, and I very seldom see someone with a ribbon these days. But I still earn an average of 1 "teamwork" honor per game. The things is that some players give honor so few and far apart that others started doing the same thing because they felt "cheated" I guess, rendering honor gifts a very rare occurrence.