Hi Riot, all my <3 champions are undertuned. Buff Please?

Sniperkaj·Feb 13, 2016·3 votes·728 views

all are sub-50 % winrate, low pickrate, no banrate, and none of them are toxic. Xerath and Ziggs both still feels good to play, but especially Jayce and Syndra must not only snowball themselves, but the entire team must snowball with them. If all 4 champs were just middle ground, i would never pick anything else midlane. As it stands now, i am almost forced to abuse just to not give my team a handicap, especially if im blind-picking my midlaner. It can win me games, but i feel bad for the enemy ADC when i at lategame press R - E - AA - R -> SPLAT and im outta here. So please Riot, if you're seeing this, please consider some of the undertuned mids :)

8 Comments

FawkseaFeb 13, 20162 votes

lmfao what is this

z14GaKI7TOFeb 13, 20162 votes

If you think Syndra is underwhelming you don't play her well. I checked your match history and your farm is really bad on her so you're not as ahead as you should be. I can't see how you build her because items won't load on euw.op.gg

Idk how you're gonna say xerath is bad when you have really good stats with him.

SniperkajFeb 13, 20161 votes

I pretty much build the same as Xerath, just more Morello/Void staff as first items. Maybe i should try RoA? You are right about farm, i think that is a weakness of mine. I dont farm well when i go for solokills/roam a lot. And you have to admit, that even though Syndra easily gets ahead, she doesn't snowball as well as other champs, and is too bad in lategame. 6 item syndra vs 6 items on enemy teammembers is almost always a loss - and by that point, your farm doesn't matter.

About Xerath, he is the least undertuned, and my best champion. I am confident my Xerath-skills is enough to play well in Platinum or maybe even Diamond, if i don't get hard-countered in lane ( Zed Ahri ) - and that will happen because his counters are overtuned + played a lot. When i last season played Ranked 5 with plat/diamonds, i always took Jayce so i can lane evenly against the Diamonds i am against, however he is just flat UP now

z14GaKI7TOFeb 13, 20162 votes

No matter what I'm against I go Athenes-Abyssal-Sorc-Deathcap on Syndra with HP scaling yellows, magic pen or hybrid pen reds and scaling ap or CDR Blues. Athenes is far superior to Morello imo. It's also disgusting on Syndra. You have lethal level 6 against almost anyone. I usually average like 7.5-8.5 farm/10 on Syndra which puts me way ahead and I get items far faster which allows me to destroy the enemy team and end the game faster. No matter what point in the game Syndra can and will one shot any ADC or Mage if you don't absolutely ruin your combo. In bronze-gold if yOu Rush abyssal the other team will barely build mr until late game if they build any and if you're against an AP lane like Ahri you hit like a truck and take no damage. Don't even bother roaming on Syndra unless you know 100% it will be beneficial, otherwise just farm your ass off and scale and get levels. Trust me if you just focus on farm and levels you'll see huge improvements in Syndra.

Edit: so you know, I mained Syndra in high gold/low plat but got perm banned because I was toxic as fuck. I'm not just talking about my ass. Late game you can QER the enemy ADC and I promise they'll die and your team will gain advantage off of it

SniperkajFeb 14, 20161 votes

Ok, thanks for the tip, will def try it out - especially on not roaming, and as you say, you are almost never zoned as Syndra so farm should then be easy. I thought Morellonomicon was better on Syndra, for the powerspike? With that you can oneshot any squishy, and continue to do so. The build seems bad vs full AD teams which are rampant now, so maybe pick her mostly into AP mids - especially Ahri is a very good matchup for Syndra :)

And i assume u get 7.5-8.5 per minute. With a bit of focus i should be able to do that

z14GaKI7TOFeb 14, 20161 votes

lol i put 7.5-8.5/10. 8 farm every 10 minutes, the cs God.

When I'm really ahead I'll have around 9/minute. I dont know, I play a lot of champions for outplay so I strongly prefer Athenes because I find the passive a lot stronger than Grievous wounds. It's just a preference, you can build morello if you want, just not an item I like on Syndra. And yeah, the build gives you a ton of MR but if you're the only mage and they don't rush MR your abyssal will tear through them faster than a void staff. If the enemy carries have under 65-70MR I always get abyssal because at that point it does more damage than void. I play Syndra heavier towards assassination than DPS, although the build still has disgusting dps, obviously.

Edit: just to add that the reason I almost never roam on Syndra is because her roams are typically weak compared to champions like Zed, Lb, Ahri because she has no mobility. If you do end up roaming, hard push first.

oSovereignFeb 13, 20161 votes

+1 for syndra.

EvilMerodachFeb 13, 20161 votes

All of those have a fairly high learning curve..so...they should all be under 50% winrate, as people are going to play them poorly till they learn them well enough to start winning games with them.