Ranked games are rigged, winning isn't an option, losing is inevitable

Solels·Feb 4, 2015·4 votes·2,736 views

Thanks to the wonderful matchmaking riot has in place, I keep getting matched with people that have just hit level 30 and have little to no understanding of the game. Because of this, I lose, obviously. The worst part? In the final game of my series I get teammates that constantly commit suicide by going into 1 v 5s. Yet I am supposed to hold myself accountable because "it is always your fault." If this were truly skill based matchmaking, I would be up a division and have teammates that have actual experience. But no. I am not allowed to leave bronze.

Only a select few (how they were chosen I don't know) are allowed to progress into silver and beyond. Thanks riot, I didn't want to leave bronze 2 today. I didn't want to finally get into silver after dozens upon dozens of games where I am actually trying my heart out. I wanted teammates that think 12 and 15 score is carrying. I wanted teammates that suicide. I wanted an incompetent feeding bot lane. Thank you dearly for holding me back in bronze. Because, you know, it isn't that I want to be in it.

63 Comments

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

You just suck. Get better, and win more. It isn't easy, but its the only way. If you can't get out of bronze, bronze is where you should be. If you were truly good then you would be carrying games, and winning enough games to get out of bronze. Learn to carry, and you will get silver in no time.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

Right, because a feeding bot lane, a suiciding jungler, and a mid lane that goes 12 and 15 but says he is carrying as we are losing is my fault. Forgive me, I will start taking responsibility for my teammates actions. Because clearly it is my fault and only mine in this game that isn't team-based.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

As I said, learn to carry, learn to farm. Here is a quick list of differences: Bronze>Silver - Feeding (or lack thereof) Silver>Gold - Farming Gold>Platinum - Positioning

Master those 3 things, and you WILL get platinum quickly. Not even joking. The number of bronze/silver games I see where people have 90 farm by 20 mins... In gold, people get 100 farm by 12 mins or they will have significantly less gold than the enemy. You need to learn to farm, not die, and punish people for making mistakes.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

I don't feed, clearly. I get at least 200 farm 25 minutes in (on average) and I (on average) outlevel my team exponentially most games. If you, for some reason, don't believe that I don't feed, then check my match history (for ranked) and tell me just how hard I feed as opposed to my team.

My team doesn't understand the importance of farming otherwise they would focus more on it. My legitimate problem that I can openly admit to is not being able to initiate and team fight well. Still, even if I did, my team always gets obliterated and doesn't hurt them back, resulting in an ace and a game win by them. But I will continue to just blame myself since I am clearly the worst player in the game.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

If you are in bronze and you are getting 200 farm by 25 mins, then that's good. What you need to learn to do is play champions that can carry your team. Safe, but high damage champs. Like Kassadin, or Zed.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

I main top lane because I am most comfortable there and Gnar is my best champion by far. I always build tanky to help support my team in fights, but it means nothing because they don't do damage and don't know how to team fight. I also hardly lose lane, I , more often than not, win lane. But of course it means nothing.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20152 votes

Why build tank to support your team in soloQ? If you are so sure that your team will suck, you need to carry for yourself. There is no point training a 3 legged race horse.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

I am building tank so I can fight in teamfights without dying instantly, survive encounters, and because my Gnar build works great. I think he works better when built tanky anyways. Building straight damage would, if anything, put me at a disadvantage. Considering his low attack range, getting close to people to poke them, it is almost necessary to have some hp/armor/mr in order to come out on top.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

If you cant carry as him, then dont play him. Gnar relies on teamwork, and as such is not a good solo/duoQ pick.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

So how would I fare in teamfights? Why would I transition to champions I don't know at all instead of using the one I have played more than any other champion? And as I said, I win lane most of the time. Also, this whole concept of carrying your game is stupid. No one can singlehandedly carry a game. It is literally impossible.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

No it isn't. As I've said, what I'm telling you is accurate. I know because I climbed from bronze 5 to gold playing only Master Yi. There are certain champions that acn carry games on their own, those are the ones to often be labeled as "OMG BROKEN CHAMP", or "OMG NOOB CHAMP", or "FFS OP CHAMP NOOOOB" etc. Just learn to play them, it will be worth it.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

Doesn't sound like much fun, and it seems like any pride I had before would dissipate into nothingness. If this is really what it takes to climb divisions, then diamond players are much less respectable and skilled than I once thought.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Well, umm, yea. Here, have a video explaining "The facts of LoL life".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=channel%3Aaf98976a-f9f3-4b40-9f15-50823b772405&feature=iv&src_vid=m8Iy1bPWYo0&v=y7tozC65cKk

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

I don't get how being told that maining a champion is a necessity. I try that and I am still in bronze 2. Coincidence? I think not.

I mained Ezreal for most of my early ranked games this season. I was able to get from bronze 4 to 2 that way. I thought the same would happen, but apparently the biggest pieces of shit in league of legends are in bronze 2. I actually had a teammate, our adc, that stopped playing earlier because they didn't get every single kill we had. We lost that game.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

When he says maining a champion, he means maining a champion that can carry. Gnar can not carry. As you said above, you had a vayne that carried them? If you can learn to vayne, or ezreal, or yi, or whatever really damn well, then you can carry games. There are just some champs that can not carry games on their own, Gnar being one of them.

Abuz3mentParkFeb 4, 20151 votes

that stopped playing earlier because they didn't get every single kill we had. We lost that game.

These situations are unfortunate, but if you looked through this forum, you'd know it happens more often than anyone would like in ALL elo's lol.

Honestly I would say you have to grind games to figure out how to deal with it, or play enough so that 1 loss wont matter, because these things wont stop after you leave Bronze.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

So I should throw anything I knew about that champion out the window, because no matter my skill with them I am never going to progress, and I should play champions I not only hate, but don't know how to play? Yeah, I am having second thoughts about playing ranked now.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Hate to say it, but... yea. The only reliable way to get out of bronze is to play champions that win. Gnar cannot win games on his own, so if you team feeds, you're screwed. You need to learn new, more powerful champs that can carry if you want to leave bronze. If you dont like the sound of that, then sorry, you're out of luck. That's what LoL is about in bronze. Maining noob champs to climb.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

Even though people said to play champions you are best with and have the most fun playing, you are telling me to not do that. I don't know which side is right anymore.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

If you want to win games, you'll need to play "broken" champions. If you want to "have fun" then you can do whatever you want, but I suggest playing normals for that. But... Who doesnt like 2 hitting people, having 600 move speed, and carrying the team to victory, every game? Seriously, learn Master Yi. He is sooo strong low elo.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Well, that's my 2 cents... More like $100 haha. I gtg, but what I've told you is fact, if you don't like it, dont play ranked. Or at least dont play ranked and expect to climb any time soon.

Abuz3mentParkFeb 4, 20151 votes

Doesn't sound like much fun, and it seems like any pride I had before would dissipate into nothingness

Lol now you're getting it xD.

Leti the YetiFeb 4, 20151 votes

usually people with the skills of a silver wont carry himself out of bronze people with the skills of gold wont carry themselves out of silver not as easily as you make it out to be

after all, in bronze.. to carry means to go 1 v 9 yeah, other tiers dont have to deal with that kind of shit

its a shame that a team game encourages 1 person to win the game for everyone else instead of relying on overall competency really, alot of people have displayed they are BETTER than the people around the but not to the degree of carrying and if you ask me, being better than erryone else is good enough

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

Even if I am better than everyone else that I am matched, and I am not saying I am, that doesn't mean I can singlehandedly carry the game. It is an impossible task unless I am playing a champion that can fight a varied team comp 1 v 5.

Abuz3mentParkFeb 4, 20151 votes

It's easy to say that, but even if he is platinum, i still think he has a problem: He's getting paired up with incompetent people.

Solution: Queue up with a buddy, or just don't do SoloQ. Honestly, the people you meet in this world are not always playing to go up in rank.

Therefore, find someone who has the same goals as you and work together to achieve them :)

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

I duo queue 99 percent of the time. Of all ranked games I have played this season, that being 48, I have duo queued in all but one or two. It makes no difference. They do okay, but doing okay doesn't win you the game.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Perhaps you should stop duoQing then? I never duoQ with people, because I know that their MMR is guaranteed to be something different to mine. If I want to be matched with someone of equal skill to me then I will play soloQ. If they are lower then me, they will feed. If they are higher than me, I will feed. Simple concept. I suggest you try to play 20ish games solo, then see if you still get matched with "noobs".

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

The person I duo queue with is bronze 4 and I am bronze 2. If anything I will get worse players by queuing with him on both ends.

If you read my initial post, you know I think ranked is fixed. That being a fact after all that I have seen, I don't see how solo queue would "fix" anything. I would still be matched with the feeding bot lane, the mid laner that is losing but claims to be carrying, and the jungler that constantly goes into 1 v 5s.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

No, you wouldn't. If you duo with someone in Bronze 4 then you can expect to get matched with Bronze 4s. As I said, play soloq, and you will get placed with people in Bronze 2. Bronze 2 is significantly better than Bronze 4, so the players will be too. If you dont wanna believe me, then whatever, but I'm telling you that if you play soloq then you will get matched with better teammates.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

I don't see how my teammates being in bronze 2 instead of 4 will make a difference. I went straight from bronze 4 to 2 after one series. It couldn't be said that my team would be better because 2 places in bronze isn't significant enough to show noticeable differences. I would know. I have solo queued before.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Ok, fine, I'm telling you a fact, and you're ignoring me. Look, I know what I'm talking about. If you want to disregard my advise, then whatever. Your loss.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

I am not disregarding anything. What you are saying doesn't seem like fact, and I am being skeptical. You don't have to be a dick about it.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

So you've never played a game where it seems like one person seems to be doing everything for their team?

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

The last game I played tonight their Vayne was their only source of "real" damage, but the rest of their team was actually working together and winning all the while we did nothing but bitch at eachother. That game was another example of a feeding bot lane.

Also in that game, I shut down Irelia. She was 0 and 3. She ended the game 12 and 7.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

This is evidence that you need to learn to play a new champion. If you could not take the lead for your team when you were 3/0 early game, then you weren't playing correctly.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

The rest of my team lost lane. I kept pushing my lane while the others lost. If they were going to lose theirs, I was at least going to win mine.

Abuz3mentParkFeb 4, 20151 votes

This is correct. If I DuoQ with my friend using my main account, we get wrecked because, well, the other team has a bunch of "me" on their team, while we only have 1 me (if that makes sense). Same with my other friend. Holy gawd do i have to play perfectly when I'm playing with him on his main. (even in normals! xD).

Yea, try solo, build up ur skillz, and focus on outlaning ur opponents. Hai is right, farm is NOT important to most Bronze, and if you can just farm by tower and bait them (or somthing like that), then you will definately win the game. I just had a game today when I beat a LeeSin using that strat as GP in toplane. He got outfarmed because all i did was sustain by tower. Late game I scaled waaay better than him, and man, it was nice to just dominate :).

ALSO watch people play on Youtube! See how bursts work for each champ! Commentary vids are SUPER amazing at getting you to at least Silver level. When your game starts, and you know who you're enemy laner is, look up strats online (if you don't know) on how to beat them. Google "Gangplank vs LeeSin TOP lane," for example, and you will find tons of advice.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

How many times do I have to say it? I almost always win my lane. Since I main top, and I play a champion I know inside and out, I win more times than not. It doesn't matter though, because carrying a game by yourself is impossible in a team game.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20152 votes

For the love of jesus. How many times to I need to say it? IT IS POSSIBLE. Play champions that are known to reliably win, and you will win. It's simple.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

If that really is possible, then this game is horribly unbalanced.

Until that happens for me, if it does, I am going to consider it impossible.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Yes, at low elo, it is horribly unbalanced. Welcome to LoL. The game is horrifically unbalanced, and there isn't much that Riot are doing to fix it, because its not an issue gold+. There are certain champions (Yi, Kata, Akali) who can punish people much harder than others for mistakes. And trust me, bronzeies make A LOT of mistakes. Thus, these champs can win easier.

Abuz3mentParkFeb 4, 20151 votes

Perhaps learn a new champ to help you carry more? Like early to mid game Darius, for example, if he wins lane and gets fed, he can absolutely destroy the other team. I mean even 2v1 he has like a 90% chance of winning if he's fed....lots of potential for penta if u ult right.

I have had games too where I completely feed, and som1 from bot/top/jungl literally carry everyone to victory.

And honestly, ranked is stupid anyway. Even if you make it out of Bronze, the same crap happens in Silver/Gold/Plat/Diamond anyway: leavers/trolls/ragers/feeders/etc/etc all permeate the game like a lingering fart, and just wont go away.

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

Surely it isn't the same in other divisions. I have seen many plat and diamond games played on streams. People seem way nicer and more focused on winning than anyone in bronze.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Yes, raging and complete dipshitery stops high silver-low gold. Idk what he's talking about tbh. I havent had a rager or leaver since I was gold4.

Abuz3mentParkFeb 4, 20151 votes

It looks that way, but once you get there, you'll know what I'm talking about.

The Micromanagers, the "bosses," the ragers, the LEAVERS (Dear gawd in heaven plz Rito fix this).

You WILL be in a better crowd, and I guess I can say these things happen less? But they still do happen, and I think Bronze is a great place to learn how to deal with that crap and still find a way to win.

Leti the YetiFeb 4, 20151 votes

no, you usually duo with someone you know someone competent so its guaranteed that atleast one other person on your team other than you isnt an absolute moron

and you're out of luck if you really think match making pairs you up with people of equal skill..

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

Match making pairs you up with people of similar MMR. That's why its called MMR. Just play hypercarries and you will win more. Fact.

Leti the YetiFeb 4, 20152 votes

we all know mmr is a horribly inaccurate system and does not explain losing streaks

u know how people are complaining bout how they get diamonds in their games eveyones be like "well that guy just has silver mmr" nikka pls, this motherfker rekt you.. and your team.. and the last 12 teams prior to that

again...for a team game, its quite a flaw for it encourage 1 man carries as you go higher, people no longer have to play carries hell, they dont even have to play high damage output or carry at all cuz they can expect overall competency

SolelsFeb 4, 20151 votes

Well said.

TSM HaiFeb 4, 20151 votes

It is a fact that at low MMR (below gold) you NEED to carry as a "noob champ" or you will never leave. When you get to gold you can start to play champions that are more team oriented, because your team will know how to play.