Why do people say Riven is hard?

buPPDrmXEO··2 votes·1,231 views

I mean ...

3 second 500 hp shield that makes your dumb moves basically unpunishable, 2 aoe stuns and an aoe execute ultimate ability that literally requires no brain to use ?

Let's not forget the fact that Riven's power level is actually ABOVE her intended power level due to animation cancelling glitches in her kit.

I think we all forgot how broken and easy this champion is. She can 1 shot any tank early game, and then just lifesteal all their damage late game.

Late game CCing her doesn't work either, she will always have her E up and use it to dash to a more favourable position while soaking a lot of the cc damage and then either fly away or jump back onto your team.

I don't know how Riot still didn't nerf (FIX THE BUGS) on this champion.

Are they afraid of all the weebs being mad or something? Like they were with Lee sin ?

Let's also not forget the fact that she has no counters in the game, she can "outplay" all of them with either her insane damage or the shield that scales with AD and makes Shen look like a squishy

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Prospector Pete5 votes

Easy to learn, hard to master.

Penns1 votes

Pretty easy to master as well if you ask me lol.

Hinagiku334 votes

Man, I don't even play Riven and this is just wrong.

  • 3 Second 500 HP Shield - not in lane she doesn't, that would require max CDR and a ton of AD
  • 2 AoE stuns - isn't one a knock-up? Also the AoE is like 2 Teemos and centered on her so she has to be in melee range of one or more targets while not building tank items
  • AoE execute - yeah it's pretty easy, but it is a skillshot and saying it requires "literally no brain to use" is just insulting all players that use targeted abilities
  • Power Level ABOVE what is intended - Riot knows about Riven's animation canceling and has been balancing her around it for years, just because you don't like it doesn't mean Riot hasn't (currently) endorsed it
  • Can 1-shot any tank early game - no she can't, Tanks aren't even tanky yet at level 1 and she still can't 1-shot them, even at her best she needed to be level 2 with a red elixir (back when you could do that) to one-shot someone early in lane
  • CC'ing her doesn't work - Do you mean that you just miss your CC? Because Riven's shield doesn't negate CC and only lasts for 1.5 seconds so you can easily pin her down then annihilate her once the shield wears off
  • FIX THE BUGS - what bugs? The animation canceling that Riot has endorsed? The wall-hopping that Riot made official? I'm unaware of any other "bugs" in her kit.
  • Has no counters - LoL has very few hard counters in general. To counter Riven just play a ranged top laner and auto-attack her while her shield is on cooldown, or play a melee champ that can rush armor and focus on denying her kills (I used to trash Riven in Season 2 with Caitlyn top, food for thought)
  • Makes Shen look squishy - Yeah, no. Shen's shield lasts longer, he gets armor and MR to give it more effective health, gets more health and takes less damage without the shield because of resistances. Riven has a short duration shield and it totally glass cannon.

I don't really care if you despise Riven with every fiber of your being. Not all of us suck as playing against her and we play against Riven just fine thank you very much. Lying about how broken and utterly unstoppable it is will only make Riot take you less seriously. Sure she could use a rework - because being balanced around animation canceling means her numbers are waaay too low for anyone that can't animation cancel with her. Also play Riven on free week some time. She's not as faceroll as you think and you'll probably learn how to counter her better after playing her a bit.

buPPDrmXEO1 votes

I've played tons of Riven and she's faceroll. Dunno what are you talking about?

NemeBro3 votes

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I've played tons of Riven and she's faceroll. Dunno what are you talking about?

You have never once played Riven in ranked, and have no Riven games I can find on record. Why should anyone believe you?

Zaghyr4 votes

He just completely destroyed your post and you still have the balls to reply to that? Man you are desperate to keep the riven hate train going. It's really sad.

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

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Man, I don't even play Riven and this is just wrong.

  • 3 Second 500 HP Shield - not in lane she doesn't, that would require max CDR and a ton of AD

  • 2 AoE stuns - isn't one a knock-up? Also the AoE is like 2 Teemos and centered on her so she has to be in melee range of one or more targets while not building tank items

  • AoE execute - yeah it's pretty easy, but it is a skillshot and saying it requires "literally no brain to use" is just insulting all players that use targeted abilities

  • Power Level ABOVE what is intended - Riot knows about Riven's animation canceling and has been balancing her around it for years, just because you don't like it doesn't mean Riot hasn't (currently) endorsed it

  • Can 1-shot any tank early game - no she can't, Tanks aren't even tanky yet at level 1 and she still can't 1-shot them, even at her best she needed to be level 2 with a red elixir (back when you could do that) to one-shot someone early in lane

  • CC'ing her doesn't work - Do you mean that you just miss your CC? Because Riven's shield doesn't negate CC and only lasts for 1.5 seconds so you can easily pin her down then annihilate her once the shield wears off

  • FIX THE BUGS - what bugs? The animation canceling that Riot has endorsed? The wall-hopping that Riot made official? I'm unaware of any other "bugs" in her kit.

  • Has no counters - LoL has very few hard counters in general. To counter Riven just play a ranged top laner and auto-attack her while her shield is on cooldown, or play a melee champ that can rush armor and focus on denying her kills (I used to trash Riven in Season 2 with Caitlyn top, food for thought)

  • Makes Shen look squishy - Yeah, no. Shen's shield lasts longer, he gets armor and MR to give it more effective health, gets more health and takes less damage without the shield because of resistances. Riven has a short duration shield and it totally glass cannon.

I don't really care if you despise Riven with every fiber of your being. Not all of us suck as playing against her and we play against Riven just fine thank you very much. Lying about how broken and utterly unstoppable it is will only make Riot take you less seriously. Sure she could use a rework - because being balanced around animation canceling means her numbers are waaay too low for anyone that can't animation cancel with her. Also play Riven on free week some time. She's not as faceroll as you think and you'll probably learn how to counter her better after playing her a bit.

Yes her 3rd hit Q is a knock up, which is actually better than a basic stun because it is unaffected by tenacity and can't be cleansed/QSS'd out.

Agree with the rest though.

Mr Broken Wings1 votes

I agree, buff riven.

BadmoonBC1 votes

Mundo into riven and laugh at her doing nothing. I literally let a riven just whack me mid game last night and didn't move to see how much damage she'd do and she was like 7/7 at this point. She couldn't even take me down a quarter. I literally regend that fast

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