Bring back Deathfire Grasp...

Malhammers··3 votes·481 views

Riot has been saying they want to fix imbalance not by nerfing but by buffing the weak points to match (to some extent)....

So why not bring back Deathfire Grasp in the whole "mage rework" thing? I think that would be a pretty quick and easy addition to all mages to help them out...

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Nahui2 votes

You have tank shred. It's called Liandry's and Void staff, and even an abyssal scepter helps a bit. You don't fight tanks.

And no, DFG was broken and all it did was making 100-0 squishies almost impossible to fuck up.

Hex the FenFen1 votes

Liandry's Torment is a joke....it does next to nothing. Void staff helps, but not since the buffs to magic resist, it doesn't do as much as it could. Abyssal is not always a viable pick on a lot of mages, especially those that should never be that close to a tank in the first place. I'm not saying mages should be allowed to burst tanks out 100-0 I'm saying that mages need a more versatile, more viable tank shredding item than the ones available at the moment.

Nahui1 votes

Idk, I build Void staff on champs like Lux, Viktor, and Cass and I see very positive results. Liandry's gives good health shred, especially if you've got CC. The damage is noticeable.

Malhammers1 votes

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You have tank shred. It's called Liandry's and Void staff, and even an abyssal scepter helps a bit. You don't fight tanks.

And no, DFG was broken and all it did was making 100-0 squishies almost impossible to fuck up.

What do you call the new assassin item? Oh ya...they can shred tanks with that now too...

Nahui1 votes

Except Mages have always done far more damage to tanks than assassins. Assassins have never been able to fight tanks unless wildly ahead, and even so. Ever since Deadman's plate, armor itemization has been easy. And, now that Last Whisper is unviable for assassins, they need a way to at least have some sort of answer to tanks.

No, this item won't let assassins 1v1 tanks, but it lets them hit tanks with a dry noodle as opposed to a wet one. This is by no means a tank shred.

Hex the FenFen1 votes

Agreed, we have no tank shred for mages atm

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Mages

Aren't

Supposed

To

Fight

Tanks

Why in the world do you think a class made for burst is supposed to be able to fight the class to counter burst?

Hex the FenFen1 votes

Because there are mages that aren't built for burst, and the items we have for the moment aren't good at doing their job. That's why. DFG, admittedly was abused to pop squishies, but it also allowed mages to deal with tanks. Not burst them down, but a way to make them turn tail and run.

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