The real problem with Vayne

rtbf209142555·9/28/2015, 3:42:03 PM·2 votes·842 views

The real problem with vayne is the same one that Yasuo, Zed, and Riven all suffere from, and its a low skill floor. This means that you don't have to play well on the champion for the champion to perform well. Vayne is way to easy to play alright on and do insanely well, such as annie. However, at the same time these champions then also have the same skill cap as someone like lee sin or azir. This gives the insane outplay potential and makes there kits feel overloaded even though they are not. This problem has been some what addressed in Yasuo and Zed but not yet Vayne. Because of this it makes it feel like vayne always is effective because of her scaling while being really hard to kill. I do not think she is necessarily overpowered but that other adc and supports are weak allowing her to farm effectively and then scale up. The current meta also favors her because champions like log and jinx have a hard time against the juggernauts who vayne can effectively duel. This is ok and is what her kit should be an outplaying dueling machine. However, she should spike a little bit late in my opinion than she currently does. It feels like once vayne gets Botrk she becomes insanely strong which is ok because Yasuo is the same way. However, Yasuo then has another dip in power. Vayne does not. Personally, I would like to see the AD ratio on Tumble nerfed, some of her level 11 power spike shifted to level 16, and a slight AS per level reduction. TL;DR Vayne because of a low skill floor and high skill cap is able to be played effectively and has too smooth a power spike. Fix this by nerfing tumbles ratio, Level 11 ult ad bonus to level 16 ult, and a slight AS per level nerf.

7 Comments

luckmallory9/28/2015, 3:43:51 PM1 votes

Vayne has a higher skill floor than most ADC's

Sooman9/28/2015, 3:58:46 PM1 votes

Vayne is possibly one of, if not the, hardest ADC to play for 2 reasons:

  1. She has super short range. Therefore making her super easy to kill with basic communication, coordination, and skill

  2. She has 0 offensive damage skills, her e is sort of but has a ridiculously long cool down and does no damage

Making her positioning and mechanics a MUST in order to play her

Wînter Fox9/28/2015, 4:07:08 PM1 votes

The real problem is she's OP as fuq

Ahurath9/28/2015, 4:28:14 PM1 votes

I think he's fine I have no problem winning over Vayne players in lane or games against her. But she's one of thost charchters that you can notice if you're up against someone that's acually good on her.

khorney9/28/2015, 4:36:42 PM1 votes

what they need to do for vayne is lower her aa range and bam instantly not op. that would solve all her problems and if her tumble had a slightly loinger cd. i mean vayne with tri force is op people have yet to realize that

Rozair9/28/2015, 4:43:01 PM1 votes

Play ashe.... Land ult. Dead

Rozair9/28/2015, 4:43:52 PM1 votes

Also even with her ability to melt tanks malph still wrecks her